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Re: How did Dorian Yates become Mr. Olympia?
« Reply #125 on: April 30, 2025, 07:17:27 AM »
Despite the bicep injury, Yates absolutely dominated the show in 1995. Perfect scores.

Levrone and Nasser knew it. No complaints.

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Re: How did Dorian Yates become Mr. Olympia?
« Reply #126 on: April 30, 2025, 04:46:52 PM »
Despite the bicep injury, Yates absolutely dominated the show in 1995. Perfect scores.

Levrone and Nasser knew it. No complaints.
levrone was better tbh

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Re: How did Dorian Yates become Mr. Olympia?
« Reply #127 on: April 30, 2025, 04:49:54 PM »
levrone was better tbh

Nope. Levrone was actually lucky to place ahead of Nasser in 1995.

Yates had a perfect score.

One of Levrone’s best poses VS Yates worst pose. Yates dominates

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Re: How did Dorian Yates become Mr. Olympia?
« Reply #128 on: April 30, 2025, 05:32:26 PM »
Despite the bicep injury, Yates absolutely dominated the show in 1995. Perfect scores.

Levrone and Nasser knew it. No complaints.

No way he should have had perfect scores. Why? Simply for not looking as bad as he did in 1994?

That pic really encapsulates the entire argument against Yates.

Small arms.  Unimpressive chest.  Big gut by the standards of the time.

He was conditioned, sure, but his proportions were garbage.

There was no one his size with better proportions. That's why I said Yates was basically a white Lee Haney when he won in 1992.

In 1993, the shock value of his size increase (or as he put it, simply not dieting off as much muscle) carried the day, even considering a 315-lb Lou Ferrigno is in the mix.

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Re: How did Dorian Yates become Mr. Olympia?
« Reply #129 on: April 30, 2025, 07:08:46 PM »
No way he should have had perfect scores. Why? Simply for not looking as bad as he did in 1994?

There was no one his size with better proportions. That's why I said Yates was basically a white Lee Haney when he won in 1992.

In 1993, the shock value of his size increase (or as he put it, simply not dieting off as much muscle) carried the day, even considering a 315-lb Lou Ferrigno is in the mix.

I know it's been said ad nauseum but Dorian more than any other bodybuilder I ever saw in person was 100x more impressive than in pics.  Guest posing at 310 and abs were visible. Wide and thick as fuck.  Not a cock reference for once.   ;D

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Re: How did doran yates become mr olympia?
« Reply #130 on: April 30, 2025, 08:51:06 PM »
Two can play the cherrypicked picture game.

How the fuck do you win the O looking like this?  This is easily the most fucked-up looking physique to ever win.

that's one pose

you can be the "worst ever" in one pose and still win the contest when you are arguably the best ever in 4 - 5 of the 7 mandatory poses

his front lat spread, side tricep, abs/thighs, read double bicep, and rear lat spread were unbeatable

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Re: How did doran yates become mr olympia?
« Reply #131 on: April 30, 2025, 08:54:03 PM »
that's one pose

you can be the "worst ever" in one pose and still win the contest when you are arguably the best ever in 4 - 5 of the 7 mandatory poses

his front lat spread, side tricep, abs/thighs, read double bicep, and rear lat spread were unbeatable

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I always add the quarter turns when talking about comparisons.  Dorian sweeps those as well.

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Re: How did doran yates become mr olympia?
« Reply #132 on: April 30, 2025, 09:22:42 PM »
you can be the "worst ever" in one... and still

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no.

once a muscle is badly torn.. that physique is marred/deformed and no longer complete - therefore no longer viable imo.

after the biceps tear… yates had no arms and should have been judged accordingly.

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Re: How did doran yates become mr olympia?
« Reply #133 on: April 30, 2025, 09:30:01 PM »
Congratulations.....This just might be the gayest description ever.

its a solid 7.5 out of 10.. without being directly explicit

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Re: How did Dorian Yates become Mr. Olympia?
« Reply #134 on: May 01, 2025, 06:28:05 AM »
95 Yates was one of the best Mr. O winners ever.

Do your research no0bs.

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Re: How did Dorian Yates become Mr. Olympia?
« Reply #135 on: May 01, 2025, 06:42:54 AM »
95 Yates was one of the best Mr. O winners ever.

Do your research no0bs.


got to give Dorian some respect.. he was living in a council high rise flat when competing in the UK & at that time they were rough.
earned his corn the hard way.
i remember when travelling on the train into Glasgow Scotland you first saw the high rise flats & it was fucking rough in the early 80s.
I lived only about 40 minutes away on the train but it was a different world

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Re: How did Dorian Yates become Mr. Olympia?
« Reply #136 on: May 01, 2025, 08:25:55 AM »
got to give Dorian some respect.. he was living in a council high rise flat when competing in the UK & at that time they were rough.
earned his corn the hard way.
i remember when travelling on the train into Glasgow Scotland you first saw the high rise flats & it was fucking rough in the early 80s.
I lived only about 40 minutes away on the train but it was a different world
He was a skinhead.

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Re: How did Dorian Yates become Mr. Olympia?
« Reply #137 on: May 01, 2025, 09:04:21 AM »
He was a skinhead.

and? i wasn´t myself but i knew a few in my patch who i got on with . you have to remember not all Skins were racist.
Look up the history of skins ... Oi Oi Oi


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Re: How did Dorian Yates become Mr. Olympia?
« Reply #138 on: May 01, 2025, 03:48:55 PM »
Nope. Levrone was actually lucky to place ahead of Nasser in 1995.

Yates had a perfect score.

One of Levrone’s best poses VS Yates worst pose. Yates dominates

Levrone has the bigger bulge , much BIGGER

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Re: How did Dorian Yates become Mr. Olympia?
« Reply #139 on: May 01, 2025, 04:42:28 PM »

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Re: How did doran yates become mr olympia?
« Reply #140 on: May 01, 2025, 05:05:47 PM »
Two can play the cherrypicked picture game.

How the fuck do you win the O looking like this?  This is easily the most fucked-up looking physique to ever win.

Is this from 94 or 97?

IIRC he won easily in 92 and 93, was injured in 94 but peeked it out over Ray. Won easily in 95 and 96 but Injuries again popped up in 97.

Which Dorian looked better 94 or 97?

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Re: How did doran yates become mr olympia?
« Reply #141 on: May 01, 2025, 05:21:35 PM »
Is this from 94 or 97?

IIRC he won easily in 92 and 93, was injured in 94 but peeked it out over Ray. Won easily in 95 and 96 but Injuries again popped up in 97.

Which Dorian looked better 94 or 97?
thats 97

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Re: How did Dorian Yates become Mr. Olympia?
« Reply #142 on: May 01, 2025, 05:27:38 PM »
Levrone has the bigger bulge , much BIGGER
It's not about that, relax

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Re: How did Dorian Yates become Mr. Olympia?
« Reply #143 on: May 01, 2025, 05:49:14 PM »

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Re: How did Dorian Yates become Mr. Olympia?
« Reply #144 on: May 02, 2025, 05:43:00 AM »
95 Yates was one of the best Mr. O winners ever.

Do your research no0bs.


Was this the precursor to the infamous "King Kamali kitchen lighting"? I mean, the shadows are working in his favor.

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Re: How did Dorian Yates become Mr. Olympia?
« Reply #145 on: May 02, 2025, 05:44:05 AM »

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Re: How did Dorian Yates become Mr. Olympia?
« Reply #146 on: May 02, 2025, 09:26:55 AM »
and? i wasn´t myself but i knew a few in my patch who i got on with . you have to remember not all Skins were racist.
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Didn't say anything was wrong with it. Just seconding your point of him living in a rough section of town.

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Re: How did Dorian Yates become Mr. Olympia?
« Reply #147 on: May 02, 2025, 06:43:51 PM »

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Re: How did doran yates become mr olympia?
« Reply #148 on: May 02, 2025, 07:49:08 PM »
no.

once a muscle is badly torn.. that physique is marred/deformed and no longer complete - therefore no longer viable imo.

after the biceps tear… yates had no arms and should have been judged accordingly.

he was judged accordingly, it only affected one mandatory pose, front double bicep

you don't have to win every mandatory pose to win, you just have to win the most and he did

he never had arms to begin with, though his tricep always magically became the biggest ever when he hit the side triceps

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Re: How did Dorian Yates become Mr. Olympia?
« Reply #149 on: May 02, 2025, 09:11:50 PM »
got to give Dorian some respect.. he was living in a council high rise flat when competing in the UK & at that time they were rough.
earned his corn the hard way.
i remember when travelling on the train into Glasgow Scotland you first saw the high rise flats & it was fucking rough in the early 80s.
I lived only about 40 minutes away on the train but it was a different world

Yates said in an interview that he had a chance to make money by joining the World Bodybuilding Federation (WBF). Tom Platz pursued him heavily and Titan sports offered him $175,000 per year to join. On the one hand, he wanted to still pursue the Olympia. On the other, all he had was $7000 from his runner-up finish at 1990 Night of Champions.

He asked his then-wife, Debbie, what he should do. He admitted that if she told him to join the WBF, he would have done so to get his family out the ghetto. She told him it was his call. Yates told Platz he’d consider it if the shows weren’t rigged like wrestling and that he was an athlete, not an entertainer.

Plats said the show would judged fairly with former bodybuilding legends on the panel. But the entertainment portion is what made the WBF different. Yates painfully declined to join, knowing it would disappoint one of his heroes. But, in his mind, competing in the IFBB was more pure sport than doing so in the WBF. When he  won NOC and placed 2nd to Haney in 1991 Olympia, he knew how close he was to achieving his goal. The rest is history.