Israel strikes Iran - 06-12-25

[Raymondo]

Iran should never be allowed to have nukes - end of.

[Van_Bilderass]

Even now, they are fighting and killing other clan factions in Gaza.

You do realize Israel is right now arming ISIS-related factions in Gaza?! If Hamas became peaceful Israel would still not agree to a two state solution, because they simply do not want Palestnians there. As you know at one point early on Israel actually built up Hamas. Israel know the terrorists now in power in Syria hate Jews but they still built up these groups with the US for years because it fit the agenda. Now these groups are slaughtering and torturing and raping alawites, kurds and other groups in Syria. Does Israel care? No, this was exactly the plan, plunge the country into chaos so they remain weak.

   
Israel is arming local militias in Gaza in an effort to counter Hamas in the besieged enclave, officials say, as opposition politicians warned that the move endangers national security.

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu defended the covert enterprise on Thursday, calling it “a good thing.” In a video posted on social media, Netanyahu said Israel had “activated clans in Gaza which oppose Hamas,” and that it was done “under the advice of security elements.”
 https://edition.cnn.com/2025/06/06/middleeast/israel-arming-hamas-rivals-gaza-intl

What the new leaders do in Syria

https://edition.cnn.com/interactive/asequals/syria-army-commander-women-abuse-as-equals-intl-invs/

[King Shizzo]

All countries should want nukes. They're a great deterrent. All countries who already have them should try to prevent others from obtaining them to keep their advantage. I think it is both logical and hypocritical, but I'm a cynic. 

Agreed. In this case, two things can be true.

[Van_Bilderass]

Israel has had a nuclear weapon since 1966. Israel has never stated they want to destroy the country of Iran. They just don't want the crazy ayatollahs to support hezbollah, hamas, houthis etc
And more importantly they don't want nuclear weapons on the hands of religious fundamentalist muslims. Israel is a small country, it only takes one nuke to vaporise it.

If the 9/11 terrorists had a nuke at their disposal, they would have used it. New York City, or another major American city, would be gone. The implications of such a action would be off the scales. Both in loss of lives, but also economically / socially.

Everyone assumes if Iran had the bomb they would use it. But that would be suicide obviously. Would they commit suicide just to destroy Israel? I don't think Iran "wants" the bomb, at least not to use it. The mullahs have said these weapons are evil, and I doubt their faith includes a plan to destroy the whole world, which is real risk if someone drops the first one.

Most Jews in Israel are atheist as far as I know and they have the Samson-option; they say if their existence is threatened they will take out the whole world with them.

Now Trump says they will face more brutal bombing if they don't "negotiate." JFC! Trump the peace maker.

[King Shizzo]

 We, as Americans are hypocritical at times.  At this point, we are basically the equivalent of the Roman empire at its peak, with all it's military might, corruption, and rampant debauchery.

But sometimes we have to take off the rose-colored glasses, and maybe try to comprehend how other countries may view us.

Remember, we (America) are the ones who have used nuclear weapons before. Imagine the eye rolls at the negotiating tables with these other countries, when we tell them "you can't have these things to protect yourselves, but we can."

I grew up in America. I live in America. That's all I know.

However, I'm not dumb enough to not realize that other cultures around the world, may have other viewpoints, and sometimes, rightfully so.

[Van_Bilderass]

We, as Americans are hypocritical at times.  At this point, we are basically the equivalent of the Roman empire at its peak, with all it's military might, corruption, and rampant debauchery.

But sometimes we have to take off the rose-colored glasses, and maybe try to comprehend how other countries may view us.

Remember, we (America) are the ones who have used nuclear weapons before. Imagine the eyeballs at the negotiating tables with these other countries, when we tell them "you can't have these things to protect yourselves, but we can."

I grew up in America. I live in America. That's all I know.

However, I'm not dumb enough to not realize that other cultures around the world, may have other viewpoints. And sometimes, rightfully so.

Delta Force operator saying the US is not a good friend

[GymnJuice]

Trump has been a disappointment. Everyday he appears more like a puppet. I'd like to be proven wrong. But he needs to lead with his actions.

You aren't wrong. But can you think of any politician other than Trump who would be more likely to keep us out of an Israeli war with Iran? (This is an honest question. I think Hillary, Biden, Bush, et al would be huge war hawks in this scenario... maybe Rand Paul would keep us out, I don't know)

IMO Trump has been a big backer of Israel in actions and words. But despite his past support I think he is stubborn and belligerent enough to go against the grain and stay out of a war over there.

[Donny]

You aren't wrong. But can you think of any politician other than Trump who would be more likely to keep us out of an Israeli war with Iran? (This is an honest question. I think Hillary, Biden, Bush, et al would be huge war hawks in this scenario... maybe Rand Paul would keep us out, I don't know)

IMO Trump has been a big backer of Israel in actions and words. But despite his past support I think he is stubborn and belligerent enough to go against the grain and stay out of a war over there.

Uncle sam only cares about Uncle Sam..  $$$$$$

[Van_Bilderass]

But despite his past support I think he is stubborn and belligerent enough to go against the grain and stay out of a war over there.

Impossible. Israel owns congress.

“I have said to people when they ask me if this Capitol crumbled to the ground, the one thing that would remain is our commitment to our aid…and I don’t even call it aid…our cooperation with Israel. That’s fundamental to who we are.”
 - Nancy Pelosi

Meaning, Israel is more important than the US.

[GymnJuice]

https://nypost.com/2025/06/13/world-news/israel-mossad-infiltrated-iran-to-damage-air-defense-systems-during-operation-rising-lion-airstrikes/

Israeli spies infiltrated the heart of Iran before Friday morning’s Operation “Rising Lion” airstrikes and damaged the country’s missile infrastructure and air defenses in a series of covert operations.

Intelligence agents with Israel’s Mossad smuggled in weaponry that destroyed defense measures inside Iran, which threatened Israeli military capabilities.

Agents deployed “significant measures” on large quantities of special weaponry and deployed them across Iran, targeting designated areas, an Israeli security source told The Post.

Explosive-laden drones had been smuggled in and stashed in the heart of Iran before the unmanned aerial vehicles flew to the base and destroyed the launchers that had “posed a threat to Israeli strategic and civilian targets.”

Sounds similar to what Ukraine did the other day to Russia's strategic bombers.

[Rambone]

I bet that Lindsey Graham fag is creaming his panties right now

[LurkerNoMore]

Iran should most certainly have nukes.  How else is one going to "accidentally" go off in their borders?

[Van_Bilderass]

Question, especially if you applaud this war, let's say this leads to a spike in gas prices, will you accept it because it's the right thing to do? It's fun to watch bombings on the screen but may not be so fun if it has consequences for our comfortable lifestyles. Further, should it come to that, should the US sacrifice many American lives for Israel? America has given much blood for Israel in the ME wars and many of those that were involved in Iraq for example (Iraq was a war for Israel and the ones who engineered it in the US were mainly Jews), were disillusioned when they realized it was on false pretenses. All those grieving families, all those maimed, all that mental PTSD anguish. Perhaps even pangs of conscience, it was worth killing 500,000 children said Albright from her comfortable perch.

I bet that Lindsey Graham fag is creaming his panties right now

And of course these soft politicians would never shed blood themselves. Trump had bone spurs. It's sickening.

[B_B_C]

more weapons of mass destruction


U.S. Diplomacy provided for Israeli  proving that the US is  Israel's bitch

[Never1AShow]

No Kings, just Autopens.

[Methyl m1ke]

God Bless Israel!!!

[Ssxa]

This will explain why Netanyahu is doing what he is doing and will not listen to anyone including Trump

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[oldschoolfan]

i seriously doubt iran has any nukes and even if so  israel has at least 200 and according to colin powell they where all aimed at iran.  israel has the most powerful and well armed and trained military in the middle east. 

[Donny]

i seriously doubt iran has any nukes and even if so  israel has at least 200 and according to colin powell they where all aimed at iran.  israel has the most powerful and well armed and trained military in the middle east.

have to respect the jews in that they fought a war against multiple oponents ..stood their ground & won.

[oldschoolfan]

have to respect the jews in that they fought a war against multiple oponents ..stood their ground & won.

they are tough, hell they are all trained to fight.   there special forces train with ours.  and well equipped there isnt any nation on the middle east that can take them in a conflict. 

[38 returns]

Why are the USA the arbiters of who has nukes or chrm weapons

They cowardly did the Japs and Vietcong as they couldn't beat them

Everywhere they go turns to shit afghan Iraq Vietnam Cambodia sierra Leone Haiti absolute abortion of an army

[Van_Bilderass]

So obviously the US is all in as Trump is now saying, and all this was planned with the US, Israel wouldn't go in without US backing it. Trump brags about Israel is attacking with US weapons and how they are the best. So forget all about the baloney of whether the US will get involved or not LOL. A round of talks was planned for this weekend. So the US was "negotiating" in bad faith. Trump is demanding Iran make a deal, but this shows again how the US is not to be trusted. What would a deal be worth when it would be reneged on anyway? Iran was willing to talk, even if they had red lines. US and Trump went back and forth on whether missiles would be included in the deal, whether civilian enrichment would be acceptable, or if it would be zero. Demands changed as often as Trump posted on Truth social. Why would anyone trust the US? Same as Russia has been saying all along, US promised lots of things, like no NATO expansion, and then reneged on it.

Looks devastating for Iran so far, let's see if they can mount any retaliation. Maybe it's best they can't, no doubt Israel would resort to nukes if threatened.

"We had nothing to do with this, Israel did this unilaterally, Iran don't you attack US assets... oh look at how successful Israel is, we knew all about it!"

You think Putin thinks Trump is honest when he says he knew nothing about the strikes in Russia?

[Griffith]

We, as Americans are hypocritical at times.  At this point, we are basically the equivalent of the Roman empire at its peak, with all it's military might, corruption, and rampant debauchery.

But sometimes we have to take off the rose-colored glasses, and maybe try to comprehend how other countries may view us.

Remember, we (America) are the ones who have used nuclear weapons before. Imagine the eye rolls at the negotiating tables with these other countries, when we tell them "you can't have these things to protect yourselves, but we can."

I grew up in America. I live in America. That's all I know.

However, I'm not dumb enough to not realize that other cultures around the world, may have other viewpoints, and sometimes, rightfully so.

It was the right call. Saved millions of Japanese and US casualties.

Concerning the Roman Empire, the US and much of the West are probably nearing 400 AD territory...

[Moontrane]

Question, especially if you applaud this war, let's say this leads to a spike in gas prices, will you accept it because it's the right thing to do? It's fun to watch bombings on the screen but may not be so fun if it has consequences for our comfortable lifestyles. Further, should it come to that, should the US sacrifice many American lives for Israel? America has given much blood for Israel in the ME wars and many of those that were involved in Iraq for example (Iraq was a war for Israel and the ones who engineered it in the US were mainly Jews), were disillusioned when they realized it was on false pretenses. All those grieving families, all those maimed, all that mental PTSD anguish. Perhaps even pangs of conscience, it was worth killing 500,000 children said Albright from her comfortable perch.

And of course these soft politicians would never shed blood themselves. Trump had bone spurs. It's sickening.

Oil prices spike whenever there's a hot conflict - or war - in the ME.  However, Israel did not target Iran's oil refineries, infrastructure, etc.

https://oilprice.com/Latest-Energy-News/World-News/Iran-Says-No-Damage-to-Oil-Facilities-From-Israeli-Strikes.html

[oldschoolfan]

to be fair here , even if iran had a nuke i seriously doubt they would use it, it would be the assurance of them getting completely wiped off the map.   putin has been threatining to use nukes for what three years now he wont. i doubt most of the russian nukes even work. the maintenance on nukes is very tedious and expensive as well.