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Re: Israel strikes Iran - 06-12-25
« Reply #250 on: June 21, 2025, 08:11:21 PM »
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Re: Israel strikes Iran - 06-12-25
« Reply #251 on: June 21, 2025, 08:47:51 PM »
I saw some guy talking about how Israel was built like a fortress and idf were every 10 feet according to him, then he wondered out loud how they could be invaded like that without knowing.

It is not.  One day I hope you get to go there and see for yourself instead of the vision the TikTokker bullcrap making people think that it is that reality.  It is not.   Tel-Aviv is a modern city,  with many different people and high tech.   Jerusalem is much more ancient, more religious in many areas.  Each city has its own unique style.  But because of Gaza and the fences, and because of the West Bank and the suicide bombers in the past, a wall was built to stop those. Unless you are right next to it, it is different.   Not so much in the last year or two, because of Hamas and the attacks, and the missles from Hezbollah, Hoothies, Iran.   But hopefully, in a few months, things will change.  Hamas will be out, and perhaps new Palestinians who do want peace, and not the destruction of Israel will be more brave and come forward for that reality for their children and families.  Like Syria, which took 30 years.  Like Lebanon is trying to do with keeping Hezbollah in check.




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Re: Israel strikes Iran - 06-12-25
« Reply #252 on: June 22, 2025, 12:31:18 AM »
I'm referring to Gaza and the Palestinian territories in case I wasn't clear. Iran says they have sunk hundreds of billions into Palestine, and have a special government account for Palestine support. So they are committed to their cause. It's only Iran and Yemen who really support Palestine, they are abandoned by the Gulf states and other Sunni states.
I don't think the Iranians ever wanted the bomb, they just wanted some leverage. If the clerics take their religion seriously I'm pretty sure they see using a nuclear bomb as a great sin. That's what Khamenei has always stated anyway. Religious people are notoriously corrupt, maybe the clerics want power for power's sake, and live a life of luxury and hedonism. Maybe, maybe not. I think some Muslims take their religion seriously, like Bin Laden who moved into a cave, when he was immensely wealthy and could have lived a life of hedonism instead. I'm not sure but I think Judaism is more permissive and in my understanding there's not much emphasis on the afterlife. But someone could educate me if I'm wrong.

Evangelical Christians wait for Jesus and Armageddon to start in Israel and they see this Iran war as hastening that process, it's an end-of-days cult. I think, correct me if I'm wrong, that in their interpretation Jews have a chance then to convert or be killed. Jews wait for the building of the third temple, and the Al Aqsa Mosque needs to be destroyed, and then their Messiah, the real Messiah, unlike the son of a whore Jesus, will appear (Jesus is in hell boiling in a vat of shit and semen now according to the Talmud) :D
How Christian Zionists worship the Jews who hate Christ is a little hard to understand, but all these religions are lunatic as far as I'm concerned. Israel founded and funded Hagee's "Christians for Jews" in the US, they may not have that much influence but I'm sure they're useful.

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Re: Israel strikes Iran - 06-12-25
« Reply #253 on: June 22, 2025, 04:46:07 AM »
They've been close to a bomb for 25 years. That's a tired old argument. And Russia or Pakistan should have just given them one and allowed them to test it in the desert somewhere for Proof-of-Nuke. I am still wondering why Russia did not do this. Perhaps they don't trust the Iranians 100%? The US has nuclear weapons in numerous nations. They even had some on Okinawa in the 60s, even though Japan technically did not allow it. I know someone that actually worked there.

I'll admit I was wrong. I did not think there was a chance of this happening. But even if Medvedev is lying it looks like it might be a possibility now. Sad.

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A “number of countries” are ready to supply Iran with nuclear warheads following American strikes on nuclear facilities early on Sunday, Russian ex-president Dmitriy Medvedev claimed on social media.

https://www.jpost.com/middle-east/iran-news/article-858550#google_vignette

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Re: Israel strikes Iran - 06-12-25
« Reply #254 on: June 22, 2025, 04:51:44 AM »
It is not.  One day I hope you get to go there and see for yourself instead of the vision the TikTokker bullcrap making people think that it is that reality.  It is not.   Tel-Aviv is a modern city,  with many different people and high tech.   Jerusalem is much more ancient, more religious in many areas.  Each city has its own unique style.  But because of Gaza and the fences, and because of the West Bank and the suicide bombers in the past, a wall was built to stop those. Unless you are right next to it, it is different.   Not so much in the last year or two, because of Hamas and the attacks, and the missles from Hezbollah, Hoothies, Iran.   But hopefully, in a few months, things will change.  Hamas will be out, and perhaps new Palestinians who do want peace, and not the destruction of Israel will be more brave and come forward for that reality for their children and families.  Like Syria, which took 30 years.  Like Lebanon is trying to do with keeping Hezbollah in check.

most Palestinians i sense have lost family and friends to Israeli bombs and bullets, finding a majority that want peace will be difficult

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Re: Israel strikes Iran - 06-12-25
« Reply #255 on: June 22, 2025, 05:09:47 AM »
most Palestinians i sense have lost family and friends to Israeli bombs and bullets, finding a majority that want peace will be difficult
My problem with the situation is they bring their differences  to places like Germany, Palestinians here hate Jews
I think in the USA they don't see this on a daily basis like say here.
Iranians flee conflict to neighboring Turkey – DW – 06/20/2025 https://share.google/T5abj9ROTh1z3Yf0P

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Re: Israel strikes Iran - 06-12-25
« Reply #256 on: June 22, 2025, 05:12:28 AM »
Old video from about 7 years ago & I can tell you it's got much worse.
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Re: Israel strikes Iran - 06-12-25
« Reply #258 on: June 22, 2025, 05:57:25 AM »
My problem with the situation is they bring their differences  to places like Germany, Palestinians here hate Jews
I think in the USA they don't see this on a daily basis like say here.
Iranians flee conflict to neighboring Turkey – DW – 06/20/2025 https://share.google/T5abj9ROTh1z3Yf0P

on their way to the UK

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Re: Israel strikes Iran - 06-12-25
« Reply #259 on: June 22, 2025, 06:09:08 AM »
on their way to the UK
Yes & the shit will start. ..of course Bart Simpson in Idaho will scream  hell yeah..go Trump but he won't live with the whole problem in his back yard.
I just think if the USA does the Bombing they should take responsibility for the aftermath
I don't want anymore of these fucking savages in my neighbourhood

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Re: Israel strikes Iran - 06-12-25
« Reply #260 on: June 22, 2025, 06:31:52 AM »
What is Russia going to do? Its threats are meaningless. Ukraine has exposed Russia’s conventional military as second-rate at best. Russia’s only threat is the nuclear one and I doubt they can handle that competently.

olympia you got that right russias military is a joke, they cant even take ukraine ,they have no navy now as well

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Re: Israel strikes Iran - 06-12-25
« Reply #261 on: June 22, 2025, 08:31:36 AM »
olympia you got that right russias military is a joke, they cant even take ukraine ,they have no navy now as well

We will see in the future. Might take a while, Russia hasn't been in a hurry. But Russia doesn't want to "take" Ukraine. They have said all along that they want a sovereign Ukraine but it cannot form a hostile block with the US. Because the US is hostile, do you deny that? When the US goals have been documented for decades. If Russia wanted to destroy the Ukraine don't you think they could easily do that? They look beyond, they will have to live with the Ukrainians in the future. Russia hasn't even targeted the leadership which they easily could, like US and Israel have done in Iran. I don't pretend to know everything that happens there, these are just my impressions so far 8)

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Re: Israel strikes Iran - 06-12-25
« Reply #262 on: June 22, 2025, 04:23:04 PM »
We will see in the future. Might take a while, Russia hasn't been in a hurry. But Russia doesn't want to "take" Ukraine. They have said all along that they want a sovereign Ukraine but it cannot form a hostile block with the US. Because the US is hostile, do you deny that? When the US goals have been documented for decades. If Russia wanted to destroy the Ukraine don't you think they could easily do that? They look beyond, they will have to live with the Ukrainians in the future. Russia hasn't even targeted the leadership which they easily could, like US and Israel have done in Iran. I don't pretend to know everything that happens there, these are just my impressions so far 8)

Russia can’t do anything “easily” militarily. You think they want to be mired in a war of attrition with Ukraine? If they could’ve destroyed Ukraine, or taken out its leadership, they would have. Have you seen the videos of Russian soldiers going to the front on personal motorcycles? Russia’s soldiers have low morale and are ill-equipped. Russia has nuclear weapons and that’s about it.

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Re: Israel strikes Iran - 06-12-25
« Reply #263 on: June 22, 2025, 04:27:50 PM »
Russia can’t do anything “easily” militarily. You think they want to be mired in a war of attrition with Ukraine? If they could’ve destroyed Ukraine, or taken out its leadership, they would have. Have you seen the videos of Russian soldiers going to the front on personal motorcycles? Russia’s soldiers have low morale and are ill-equipped. Russia has nuclear weapons and that’s about it.

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Re: Israel strikes Iran - 06-12-25
« Reply #264 on: Today at 12:23:25 AM »
Latinos are very passionate people
Thankfully they don't have nukes.

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Re: Israel strikes Iran - 06-12-25
« Reply #265 on: Today at 01:36:25 AM »
We will see in the future. Might take a while, Russia hasn't been in a hurry. But Russia doesn't want to "take" Ukraine. They have said all along that they want a sovereign Ukraine but it cannot form a hostile block with the US. Because the US is hostile, do you deny that? When the US goals have been documented for decades. If Russia wanted to destroy the Ukraine don't you think they could easily do that? They look beyond, they will have to live with the Ukrainians in the future. Russia hasn't even targeted the leadership which they easily could, like US and Israel have done in Iran. I don't pretend to know everything that happens there, these are just my impressions so far 8)

Russia has given everything it has and it still can't claim Ukraine as its own. Putin just said he considers Ukraine to be Russia already. They tried to take Kyiv so what's that about sovereignty? And many tens of thousands of "liberated" Ukrainians in Mariupol and other places.

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Re: Israel strikes Iran - 06-12-25
« Reply #266 on: Today at 01:40:07 AM »
Russia has given everything it has and it still can't claim Ukraine as its own. Putin just said he considers Ukraine to be Russia already. They tried to take Kyiv so what's that about sovereignty? And many tens of thousands of "liberated" Ukrainians in Mariupol and other places.
No it hasn't

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Re: Israel strikes Iran - 06-12-25
« Reply #267 on: Today at 02:30:20 AM »
Say what you want about Russias Military but we all can agree on one thing


US MILITARY is TOP NOTCH

US MILITARY DELIVERS

US MILITARY = Most Efficient in The World!

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Re: Israel strikes Iran - 06-12-25
« Reply #268 on: Today at 02:36:30 AM »
Say what you want about Russias Military but we all can agree on one thing


US MILITARY is TOP NOTCH
US MILITARY DELIVERS
US MILITARY = Most Efficient in The World!


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Re: Israel strikes Iran - 06-12-25
« Reply #269 on: Today at 02:48:09 AM »
= brilliant Israeli  control of the US



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Re: Israel strikes Iran - 06-12-25
« Reply #270 on: Today at 03:30:21 AM »
No it hasn't

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Re: Israel strikes Iran - 06-12-25
« Reply #271 on: Today at 03:45:54 AM »
No it hasn't

4000 destroyed tanks and 250 000 dead Russians later.

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Re: Israel strikes Iran - 06-12-25
« Reply #272 on: Today at 04:06:54 AM »
US stock market futures up. No concern in US about the conflict expanding or negatively impacting the economy.

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Re: Israel strikes Iran - 06-12-25
« Reply #273 on: Today at 04:21:09 AM »
Russia has given everything it has and it still can't claim Ukraine as its own. Putin just said he considers Ukraine to be Russia already. They tried to take Kyiv so what's that about sovereignty? And many tens of thousands of "liberated" Ukrainians in Mariupol and other places.

You can frame it any way you wish, I'm just an outsider and don't have personal affinity for either side. If I had a personal connection I might think differently. Various analysts have given several different reasons why they prefer to take it slow, and I'm not going to rehash them all here, but many of them sounded logical. For example, now Iran has different options in their war with US/Israel and various analysts say their best bet is to get into a slower attrition war with Israel, exhaust Israel's AD, don't do anything drastic to pull the US in too much. Similar has been proposed with Ukraine, like Russia could have done something drastic after the bombing of the strategic fleet, but that might have pulled the US in, it was a trap where the Ukrainians counted on a massive retaliation. Russia may prefer to attrit Ukraine more slowly. Russia has the Oreshniks and they could mobilize more troop if things got really critical. Some have suggested Russia is advising Iran right now telling them to keep a cool head and don't, for example, attack Saudi oil. Would you at least admit there might be such considerations?

Russia can’t do anything “easily” militarily. You think they want to be mired in a war of attrition with Ukraine? If they could’ve destroyed Ukraine, or taken out its leadership, they would have. Have you seen the videos of Russian soldiers going to the front on personal motorcycles? Russia’s soldiers have low morale and are ill-equipped. Russia has nuclear weapons and that’s about it.

You really think they couldn't take out the leadership? They don't have the bombs to do it? They don't have the intelligence? Come on man, there are many reasons you don't take out leadership, I very much doubt they lack the ability. Like Israel/US hasn't taken out the ayatollah and Trump claimed he didn't want to... yet. Said he could at any time. Is that cope and the truth is they haven't been able to? The motorcycles, I think there was talk about donkeys as well lol?, well some have claimed there was some advantage to using motorcycles, but that may have been a cope, I don't know :D

It is admitted that Russia produces more missiles and military hardware in a month that the EU plus US does in a year! This is mainstream sources saying it.

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Re: Israel strikes Iran - 06-12-25
« Reply #274 on: Today at 04:23:12 AM »
https://defensefeeds.com/military-tech/air-force/aircraft-bombs/gbu-57-mop/

According to military reports, the GBU-57 penetration depth allows the bomb to drive through 60 meters(about 200 feet) of earth or 18 meters (nearly 60 feet) of reinforced concrete, capabilities that no other conventional weapon can match.