I tried the SARM Ostarine for 2 bottles. My gawd that stuff works. I dont take anything else other than protein, vitamins etc. The difference it made in my life was astounding. Felt better, less sore, GREAT recovery, stronger, probably leaner (for my fat ass anyways),..just overall outstanding results. Now Im off for a long time and just dead, recovery is awful, strength down, just shittier overall. I was very skeptical about it at first but wow did it work.