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Why has Arnold toughened up again? Arnold on The View!
« on: June 21, 2025, 12:27:05 PM »
Is this a publicity stunt for his TV show?

I think he may have gotten a new girlfriend or something, not hanging out with weak leftists as much.


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Re: Why has Arnold toughened up again?
« Reply #1 on: June 21, 2025, 12:51:24 PM »
He's been saying that same thing about America being the land of opportunity for decades.

Nothing new.

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Re: Why has Arnold toughened up again?
« Reply #2 on: June 21, 2025, 01:05:42 PM »
Leftwing Arnold is a flop in all sorts of ways. His main fanbase came from the right, and I don't think he'll get it back, but I think he's going for more of a centrist thing now. Lost the right, left doesn't care about him, but maybe he can get back in with the middle.

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Re: Why has Arnold toughened up again?
« Reply #3 on: June 21, 2025, 01:17:05 PM »
Leftwing Arnold is a flop in all sorts of ways. His main fanbase came from the right, and I don't think he'll get it back, but I think he's going for more of a centrist thing now. Lost the right, left doesn't care about him, but maybe he can get back in with the middle.

Everyone still wants a photo-op with him, every bb wants to "train" with him, good for some extra clicks if nothing else :D

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Re: Why has Arnold toughened up again?
« Reply #4 on: June 21, 2025, 02:50:33 PM »
He's been saying that same thing about America being the land of opportunity for decades.

Nothing new.

Yes he has, but during those decades he wasnt the weepy old man he seemed to have turned into in the last 8 years. Why did he change back?  Hitting the TRT again?  Is he hanging out with a new crew because of that FUBAR show (which now I may at least check out). Going in and being diametrically opposed to the Yentas on the View is a big deal in today’s media landscape.

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Re: Why has Arnold toughened up again?
« Reply #5 on: June 21, 2025, 02:56:31 PM »
Yes he has, but during those decades he wasnt the weepy old man he seemed to have turned into in the last 8 years. Why did he change back? Hitting the TRT again?  Is he hanging out with a new crew because of that FUBAR show (which now I may at least check out). Going in and being diametrically opposed to the Yentas on the View is a big deal in today’s media landscape.

Possibly back together with Paul Graham ??

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Re: Why has Arnold toughened up again?
« Reply #6 on: June 21, 2025, 03:01:59 PM »
Fubar is the worst thing arnold has done,  horrible writing and lame action, do not watch.
Yes he has, but during those decades he wasnt the weepy old man he seemed to have turned into in the last 8 years. Why did he change back?  Hitting the TRT again?  Is he hanging out with a new crew because of that FUBAR show (which now I may at least check out). Going in and being diametrically opposed to the Yentas on the View is a big deal in today’s media landscape.

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Re: Why has Arnold toughened up again?
« Reply #7 on: June 21, 2025, 04:25:29 PM »
Fubar is the worst thing arnold has done,  horrible writing and lame action, do not watch.

I figured that, but then I see it was renewed for a second season?  What the heck, why?  Also, the worst thing Arnold has done is a pretty high bar to clear!

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Re: Why has Arnold toughened up again?
« Reply #8 on: June 21, 2025, 04:41:04 PM »
Was Arnold a closet? I think I remember hearing stories about him can anybody confirm?

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Re: Why has Arnold toughened up again?
« Reply #9 on: June 21, 2025, 04:49:37 PM »
[First season was successful, topped the streaming chart, I'm not sure who it catered for but it was a hit.
It's overdone in forced comedy that doesn't work and trying to create 1 liners, which is never what happened with his previous films, the lines just caught on.
All the side characters are horrible,  Arnold's team,  well compare them to Predator, a realistic bunch of macho guys and now box ticking variety.
Arnold had a hit,  they didn't bother promoting season 2 and it's flopped than God, time to move on.


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I figured that, but then I see it was renewed for a second season?  What the heck, why?  Also, the worst thing Arnold has done is a pretty high bar to clear!
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Re: Why has Arnold toughened up again?
« Reply #10 on: June 21, 2025, 05:09:22 PM »
Yes he has, but during those decades he wasnt the weepy old man he seemed to have turned into in the last 8 years. Why did he change back?  Hitting the TRT again?  Is he hanging out with a new crew because of that FUBAR show (which now I may at least check out). Going in and being diametrically opposed to the Yentas on the View is a big deal in today’s media landscape.

The unkind interpretation is that Arnold is unprincipled and an opportunist who looks at which angle would be more beneficial for himself, and what politics his powerful circle of friends support. Obviously many people are inauthentic and what they proclaim is not what they believe. Like someone could a leftist outwardly but really is a fascist extreme right winger, depending on what those terms mean to you. I think Arnold is an elitist who believes in hierachies and so on, these extremely ambitious "world conquerors" usually are like that. Remember, Arnold said he admired Hitler. Same as Trump I suspect. At least he wanted as loyal generals as Hitler had.

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Re: Why has Arnold toughened up again?
« Reply #11 on: June 21, 2025, 07:33:39 PM »
Who are these powerful circle of friends that are not supporting the Leftist version of immigration issue?  And especially who powerful in LA is like that publicly?

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Re: Why has Arnold toughened up again?
« Reply #12 on: June 21, 2025, 08:21:35 PM »
Who are these powerful circle of friends that are not supporting the Leftist version of immigration issue?  And especially who powerful in LA is like that publicly?

Even the leftists themselves are condemning "criminal acts" during protests. They may support it but at least officially say otherwise. Arnold didn't really repudiate immigration as such, just condemned criminal activities, nothing radical even from a leftist POV. If he'd said all the "paperless" must be rounded up by ICE and sent back ASAP without due process, that would have been something :D Even Trump caved and said some of the working illegals could probably stay, he specifically said business owners were pressing him on it :D

I don't know how the panel on that show reacted to Arnold, were they shocked and insulted?

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Re: Why has Arnold toughened up again? Arnold on The View!
« Reply #13 on: June 21, 2025, 08:39:22 PM »

Arnold is an immigrant.  A legal immigrant who worked hard to become a US Citizen, as did many other immigrants.  Came to America, respected America.  Got a green card, became a US Citizen. A very proud day.  For many immigrants.    Which is why so many LEGAL immigrants now support the Republican party.   What he said on the view is what many legal immigrants think. 




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Re: Why has Arnold toughened up again? Arnold on The View!
« Reply #14 on: June 21, 2025, 10:46:19 PM »
Arnold is an immigrant.  A legal immigrant who worked hard to become a US Citizen, as did many other immigrants.  Came to America, respected America.  Got a green card, became a US Citizen. A very proud day.  For many immigrants.    Which is why so many LEGAL immigrants now support the Republican party.   What he said on the view is what many legal immigrants think.

Exactly - I know quite a few immigrants who feel this way. I am half Indian (we don’t use dumbass titles like “Native American”) - and half immigrants whose grandparents escaped the iron curtain to come to America. None of my family supports illegal immigration.

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Re: Why has Arnold toughened up again? Arnold on The View!
« Reply #15 on: June 22, 2025, 09:47:11 AM »
The plan is to blur all immigrants together, legal, illegal, criminal, Maria, whoever. And No there are not many if any LA political leaders speaking out against even the criminals.

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Re: Why has Arnold toughened up again?
« Reply #16 on: June 22, 2025, 11:09:32 AM »
Was Arnold a closet? I think I remember hearing stories about him can anybody confirm?
Apparently him & Paul Graham were more than just friends.  Watch the Roger walker interview

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Re: Why has Arnold toughened up again?
« Reply #17 on: June 22, 2025, 02:19:09 PM »
Was Arnold a closet? I think I remember hearing stories about him can anybody confirm?

Never heard G4Pleasure, but G4P, there's been a few famous rumored stories -

From Lacey Rich (Old time connected gay) -

"At the premiere of Pumping Iron, Tom Minchello had a friend named Margie, who wanted to make it with Arnold. Tom told Margie Arnie's room number. She went to the suite and knocked on the door. The door opened to a darkened room. Margie could see that a light was on in the bedroom and she could hear moans. She crept to the other door . What does she see; Nothing, but Charles Gaines (author of Pumping Iron & Stay Hungry) and the great Austrian oak with his heels spread to Jesus. She quickly backed up and hurriedly left. By the time she reach the lobby she was in hysterics telling everyone that Arnold was upstairs being f$$ked by a man. I guess that taught Arnie to lock the door."

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He mis spells the name, but the guy is Tom Minichiello, who owned Mid City Gym.  He had a book called "Bodybuilders, Drugs, and Sex" where he tells a version of it. Over the years the rumor above got spread around, some say it was Gaines, some say Butler, but the rumor has always been that Arnold went gay for one of the guys from Pumping Iron, and Minichiello saw it.

Bob Bonham heard it was Butler - http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=306303.msg4391490#msg4391490 .

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Tom Minichiello in the Jun 1992 edition of Spy Magazine mentioned that Arnold was connected to Paco Arce, and Arce had pictures of him that Arnold posed for privately - (https://books.google.com/books?id=K4N6CoFaMwQC&pg=PA8&dq=Tom+Minichiello+arnold+gay+spy&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjRyLPK7Z3tAhWrQzABHWtjAXEQ6AEwAHoECAAQAg#v=onepage&q=Tom%20Minichiello%20arnold%20gay%20spy&f=false) .

Arce was a millionaire from Spain that was flamingly gay. He'd take briefcases of money around to all the big contests, and try and get bodybuilders to hang out. One of the photos he had of Arnold supposedly has him lounging around in his underwear reading Playgirl magazine -  https://books.google.com/books?id=Xa7j5ofHW0EC&pg=PA63&dq=Paco+Arce+bodybuilding&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwioyIqa753tAhWeRzABHUENAj8Q6AEwAXoECAIQAg#v=onepage&q=Paco%20Arce%20bodybuilding&f=false .

Paco is the guy in the red trunks seen in this famous schmoe shot -

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Also, just because it's a funny story about Ken "Dakota" Sprague fucking over Arnold (from John Fair's "Mr America" book) -

" Another occurrence relating to Sprague’s colorful career, conveyed in Carter’s novel, involved Arnold Schwarzenegger, whose posing footage was included in a porno production called Going Down. When Arnold heard that it was playing to packed houses, he was livid. As his girlfriend Barbara Outland (Baker) relates in her memoir: “When I arrived home one winter afternoon, I heard Arnold screaming into the phone, ‘You fucking prick! How dare you screw me like dis! I’ll have your ass, you Gott-damn cock-sucker. Jayzeus Kreest, you fucked me over, and now you are fucked, believe me!’ . . . He slammed down the phone, screaming, ‘Dat fucking asshole put my posing routine in his supposed documentary—a movie where guys are jacking off while watching me pose. Dat bastard!’”

Upon visiting the theater in North Hollywood where the supposed bodybuilding documentary was being shown, Outland expressed concern about what that kind of exposure would do to Arnold’s budding film career. What she saw on the screen was “rows of actors, seated in a movie theater setting . . .groaning in self-joy over my lover.”

[Outland's description of the filmed scenes in the porno film] -

 "The scene flashed to Arnold in a double biceps pose, then to the audience of men holding gay men’s Schlongs. The camera took me back to Arnold doing a full back pose, his Olympian muscles bulging and taut, and then it slipped back to rows of rapid hand and mouth movement. Then the camera flipped back to Arnold performing a side-view of glistening muscularity, and then shrunk back to ejaculating penises, shriveled in compliance under their own muscular feats. I knew some of these scumbags. They were the Bills and Dennys of our distant social life on that silver screen, sucking their way to financial gain."

Sprague insists that “it was nothing like she describes.” It was a film featuring some gym members with footage inserts from a show. “Arnold and Franco were irate,” but Joe Weider told Schwarzenegger to “just go over and settle it with” Sprague, who explained why: “Joe didn’t want to ruffle me because I owned Gold’s. So Arnold came up and said ah, we’ve got to settle this, so I said I’ll give you $50 each. Okay.” So even when Schwarzenegger was Mr. Olympia, $50 was enough to buy him off. "


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Re: Why has Arnold toughened up again?
« Reply #18 on: June 22, 2025, 06:55:21 PM »
Never heard G4Pleasure, but G4P, there's been a few famous rumored stories -

From Lacey Rich (Old time connected gay) -

"At the premiere of Pumping Iron, Tom Minchello had a friend named Margie, who wanted to make it with Arnold. Tom told Margie Arnie's room number. She went to the suite and knocked on the door. The door opened to a darkened room. Margie could see that a light was on in the bedroom and she could hear moans. She crept to the other door . What does she see; Nothing, but Charles Gaines (author of Pumping Iron & Stay Hungry) and the great Austrian oak with his heels spread to Jesus. She quickly backed up and hurriedly left. By the time she reach the lobby she was in hysterics telling everyone that Arnold was upstairs being f$$ked by a man. I guess that taught Arnie to lock the door."

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Dear God !!!  At The Pumping Iron premier 😂

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Re: Why has Arnold toughened up again?
« Reply #19 on: June 22, 2025, 07:02:23 PM »

Dear God !!!  At The Pumping Iron premier 😂

I’m sure you remember, you were front and center , in person

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Also, just because it's a funny story about Ken "Dakota" Sprague fucking over Arnold (from John Fair's "Mr America" book) -

" Another occurrence relating to Sprague’s colorful career, conveyed in Carter’s novel, involved Arnold Schwarzenegger, whose posing footage was included in a porno production called Going Down. When Arnold heard that it was playing to packed houses, he was livid. As his girlfriend Barbara Outland (Baker) relates in her memoir: “When I arrived home one winter afternoon, I heard Arnold screaming into the phone, ‘You fucking prick! How dare you screw me like dis! I’ll have your ass, you Gott-damn cock-sucker. Jayzeus Kreest, you fucked me over, and now you are fucked, believe me!’ . . . He slammed down the phone, screaming, ‘Dat fucking asshole put my posing routine in his supposed documentary—a movie where guys are jacking off while watching me pose. Dat bastard!’”



This is GOLD 😂


Arnold couldn’t have been too mad. He had already lived with Paul Graham for years

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Re: Why has Arnold toughened up again?
« Reply #21 on: June 22, 2025, 08:19:44 PM »
Fubar is the worst thing arnold has done,  horrible writing and lame action, do not watch.

Aint that the truth.

That show sucked ass.

The writing, the plot, the dialogue was all absurd. The only thing worse was HIS acting which stunk.

Pawning him iff as an actiin star at this point is totally ridiculous. He moved slow, it was not believable at all.

Cutting fast shots, different angles, zooming in/out to hide the fact that he is geriatric and arthritic was flimsy...

Still better than mentzers last movie.

Seeing "old" Arnold silence those batshit crazy c-u-ntz on the view was still enjoyable.

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Aint that the truth.

That show sucked ass.

The writing, the plot, the dialogue was all absurd. The only thing worse was HIS acting which stunk.

Pawning him iff as an actiin star at this point is totally ridiculous. He moved slow, it was not believable at all.

Cutting fast shots, different angles, zooming in/out to hide the fact that he is geriatric and arthritic was flimsy...

Still better than mentzers last movie.

Seeing "old" Arnold silence those batshit crazy c-u-ntz on the view was still enjoyable.

Still better than Mike Katz last movie though!
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Re: Why has Arnold toughened up again? Arnold on The View!
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Seeing "old" Arnold silence those batshit crazy c-u-ntz on the view was still enjoyable.

Arnold will say whatever he thinks is popular.  He has no convictions.  He's woke when he thinks it's politically expedient to be woke.  He's "tough" when he thinks it's politically useful to be anti-immigration and reasonable-seeming. 

The guy is basically a psychopath and a natural actor.  lol at believing anything he says.




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Re: Why has Arnold toughened up again? Arnold on The View!
« Reply #24 on: Today at 04:26:50 AM »
Arnold will say whatever he thinks is popular.  He has no convictions.  He's woke when he thinks it's politically expedient to be woke.  He's "tough" when he thinks it's politically useful to be anti-immigration and reasonable-seeming. 

The guy is basically a psychopath and a natural actor.  lol at believing anything he says.

That's what I was saying but I'm sort of all over the place and too wordy :D