Author Topic: About to start a cycle, please review my structure (Read 3571 times)

udeluz · « **on:** May 05, 2006, 06:09:37 AM »

Does anyone see a problem with this revised cycle?

1-8 dbol 50mg/day
1-16 600mg/week test
1-12 300mg/week Deca
1-16 HCG @ 500IU e5d
17-20 PCT (Nolvadex)
Liv 52

Shadyadam · « **Reply #1 on:** May 05, 2006, 06:15:42 AM »

Is this your first cycle?

udeluz · « **Reply #2 on:** May 05, 2006, 06:22:18 AM »

I have been off the gear for years, I am in very good shape, just looking to see some gains. I stay right at the 175-180 mark with good eating habits, and work out 5 to 7 times a week. I was going to do just Test-Deca-Dbol, but I have seen good results from this stack.

Shadyadam · « **Reply #3 on:** May 05, 2006, 06:30:50 AM »

Quote from: udeluz on May 05, 2006, 06:09:37 AM

Structure:
1-4 dbol 50mg/day
1-14 500mg/week test
1-13 400mg/week nandrolone
4-16 500iu/week hcg
16-18 150mg/day clomid
19-20 50mg/day clomid
16-20 40mg/day nolva

I am 35 5'11" 175lbs BF is 16.4 My target is 195-200 w/12% BF

Honestly the only change i would make is to run the nolva with the cycle since you already have clomid for your PCT (really no need to run both since they both do the same thing and on paper nolva is better). Are you prone to gyno? If not ya you can run the nolva at PCT which is fine. But if you have ever had a problem with gyno you could run the nolva at 10mg a day or EOD through out the cycle.

Oh and also the deca and test ratio should be 2:1 so if your dick isnt working cut the 400mg to 300mg...

DIVISION · « **Reply #4 on:** May 05, 2006, 10:39:18 PM »

DIVISIONAL CHANGES:

1-4 dbol 50mg/day
1-12 500mg/week test
1-12 HCG @ 500IU ed
13-16 PCT (Nolvadex)

DIV

udeluz · « **Reply #5 on:** May 06, 2006, 07:10:38 AM »

Div,
Why do you recomend that I not use the Deca?

DIVISION · « **Reply #6 on:** May 06, 2006, 10:50:57 AM »

Quote from: udeluz on May 06, 2006, 07:10:38 AM

Div,
Why do you recomend that I not use the Deca?

Deca should be run for twelve weeks at the least and then you'd need four additional weeks to get it out of your system before PCT which extends the cycle to sixteen weeks.

That's too long for a newbie cycle, plus you want to stick with one or two compounds at the most.

DIV

ZEEK · « **Reply #7 on:** May 06, 2006, 02:09:43 PM »

your not going to listen so just do what ya want
maybe it will work out

ToxicAvenger · « **Reply #8 on:** May 06, 2006, 03:00:50 PM »

Quote from: DIVISION on May 06, 2006, 10:50:57 AM

Deca should be run for twelve weeks at the least and then you'd need four additional weeks to get it out of your system before PCT which extends the cycle to sixteen weeks.

That's too long for a newbie cycle, plus you want to stick with one or two compounds at the most.

DIV

exactly...

plus deca dick aint no fun.unless you'r running test with it...

but i'm guessing that the dood is asking about this after he already bought the stuff..which means he's stuck with the deca.

i'd run the deca with the test in that case...

Chevybigguns · « **Reply #9 on:** May 06, 2006, 05:52:05 PM »

To really have any real muscle gains with drugs, you have to first have a good base. And a buck 75 is not

udeluz · « **Reply #10 on:** May 06, 2006, 06:19:44 PM »

Quote from: Chevybigguns on May 06, 2006, 05:52:05 PM

To really have any real muscle gains with drugs, you have to first have a good base. And a buck 75 is not

LOL Your saying that because I am 175, the gear wont show me any gains???

bigjohn_bluesfan · « **Reply #11 on:** May 06, 2006, 06:50:36 PM »

Quote from: DIVISION on May 05, 2006, 10:39:18 PM

DIVISIONAL CHANGES:

1-4 dbol 50mg/day
1-12 500mg/week test
1-12 HCG @ 500IU ed
13-16 PCT (Nolvadex)

DIV

and add in some arimidex 1/2 mg eod ..... unless you want titties like DIV

davinci · « **Reply #12 on:** May 07, 2006, 01:28:41 AM »

.5 mg eod adex througout cycle
start hcg week1
extend test 4 weeks past deca
finish off cycle with prop
nolva and aromasin for pct

bigjohn_bluesfan · « **Reply #13 on:** May 07, 2006, 06:56:34 AM »

just run the damn deca....it aint gonna hurt you.... who knows how your body willl react until you do it..... i dont agree with that shit about just running test for first cycle because the deca will help to solidify your gains

just make sure you have close to a 2:1 test/deca ratio or you will be like a neutered dog

take as much gear as you can take in a 16 week period of time is my philosophy...... balls to the walls

DIVISION · « **Reply #14 on:** May 07, 2006, 07:08:13 PM »

Quote from: ToxicAvenger! on May 06, 2006, 03:00:50 PM

exactly...

plus deca dick aint no fun.unless you'r running test with it...

but i'm guessing that the dood is asking about this after he already bought the stuff..which means he's stuck with the deca.

i'd run the deca with the test in that case...

^Concur, Junaid.

These people run the shit and start asking questions mid-cycle...

A bit too late at that point.

Quote from: bigjohn_bluesfan on May 07, 2006, 06:56:34 AM

just make sure you have close to a 2:1 test/deca ratio or you will be like a neutered dog

^Jonathan learned the hard (soft) way.

DIV

bigjohn_bluesfan · « **Reply #15 on:** May 07, 2006, 08:09:05 PM »

Quote from: DIVISION on May 07, 2006, 07:08:13 PM

^Concur, Junaid.

These people run the shit and start asking questions mid-cycle...

A bit too late at that point.

^Jonathan learned the hard (soft) way.

DIV

no pun intended

udeluz · « **Reply #16 on:** May 12, 2006, 04:43:04 PM »

Does anyone see a problem with this revised cycle?

1-8 dbol 50mg/day
1-12 300mg/week Deca
1-12 600mg/week Test E
12-16 600 mg/week Test P
1-16 HCG @ 500IU e5d
17-20 PCT (Nolvadex)
Liv 52

SLYY · « **Reply #17 on:** May 12, 2006, 04:48:07 PM »

HCG should be run at 500iu's EOD....not ed

Also, I would also run adex during ur cycle...

Arnold jr · « **Reply #18 on:** May 12, 2006, 06:47:15 PM »

Quote from: udeluz on May 12, 2006, 04:43:04 PM

Does anyone see a problem with this revised cycle?

1-6 dbol 50mg/day
1-16 600mg/week test
1-12 300mg/week Deca
1-16 HCG @ 500IU eod
17-20 PCT (Nolvadex)

hcg is 500iu every 5th day (e5d) not ed, not eod.
PCT starts at wk 17 if you have been using prop the last few wks. If you have been using a slower estered test and it doesn't matter what it is, the PCT starts wk 19.
Add in a-dex .5mg-1mg eod
Last off, and I say this for every test/deca/dbol cycle I reply to, I'd drop the dbol and add in winny the last 6wks at 50mg ed, simply for the fact that I personally hate dbol and find winny much more beneficial.

SLYY · « **Reply #19 on:** May 12, 2006, 08:32:43 PM »

my bad....that was a typo....and i assumed his was too....

ZEEK · « **Reply #20 on:** May 12, 2006, 10:25:08 PM »

run the test
and throw everything else in the mix.
the deca going to screw you up without the test.

udeluz · « **Reply #21 on:** May 15, 2006, 04:10:50 PM »

Thanks bros.

freakfestMD · « **Reply #22 on:** May 16, 2006, 08:37:18 AM »

Quote from: udeluz on May 12, 2006, 04:43:04 PM

Does anyone see a problem with this revised cycle?

1-6 dbol 50mg/day
1-16 600mg/week test
1-12 300mg/week Deca
1-16 HCG @ 500IU eod
17-20 PCT (Nolvadex)

I think it's a fine cycle. I see no problems with it.

I was also thinking what arnie was thinking. I run my hcg at 500IU every 5 days throughout, and then into the first week of PCT and then stop it. You'll have to play around with the Arimidex dosage. In general it's typical to recommend about 1 mg every other day, but on my last cycle I required 0.7mg every day to get me feeling just right.

DIVISION · « **Reply #23 on:** May 16, 2006, 06:57:53 PM »

DIVISIONAL CHANGES:

1-4 dbol 50mg/day
1-12 200mg/week Deca
1-12 500mg/week Test E
12-16 500 mg/week Test P
1-16 HCG @ 500IU e5d
1-16 Arimidex 1MG eod
17-20 PCT (Nolvadex)

DIV

udeluz · « **Reply #24 on:** May 16, 2006, 07:52:05 PM »

D,
Can you explain why you bumped everything down a bit? And what if I were to change from the test e to sust.?