High-Fructose Corn Syrup: Just Like Sugar, or Worse?

[IroNat]

Apparently, there is very little difference.

It is best to avoid high fructose corn syrup and cane sugar in foods.  Excessive carb consumption acts just like sugars.

https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/high-fructose-corn-syrup-vs-sugar

[B_B_C]

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jul/17/trump-coca-cola-cane-sugar-corn-syrup

The Coca-Cola company has defended its use of corn syrup after Donald Trump’s claim Wednesday that he had apparently convinced the brand to switch to using sugar cane in its US drinks, as it does in Mexico and the UK.
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In the 1980s Coca-Cola’s US arm changed its formulation to use high-fructose corn syrup, supported by US farming subsidies, and not imported sugar cane subjected to import tariffs. But turning back the clock could prove costly if Trump’s high US tariffs on nations that produce sugar cane continue to apply.

[Irongrip400]

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jul/17/trump-coca-cola-cane-sugar-corn-syrup

The Coca-Cola company has defended its use of corn syrup after Donald Trump’s claim Wednesday that he had apparently convinced the brand to switch to using sugar cane in its US drinks, as it does in Mexico and the UK.
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In the 1980s Coca-Cola’s US arm changed its formulation to use high-fructose corn syrup, supported by US farming subsidies, and not imported sugar cane subjected to import tariffs. But turning back the clock could prove costly if Trump’s high US tariffs on nations that produce sugar cane continue to apply.

Do we still grow sugar cane in Hawaii?

[IroNat]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sugar_industry_of_the_United_States

Right now it's Florida, Louisiana, and Texas.

[Irongrip400]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sugar_industry_of_the_United_States

Right now it's Florida, Louisiana, and Texas.

Boom time for our sugar farms.

[Van_Bilderass]

I read that Trump made Coke switch to cane sugar because it's healthier I can see that it may taste better though (haven't compared).

HFCS being uniquely evil compared to white table sugar is another myth I think, I'm sure I've written about it here maybe 20 years ago, but people love their myths and conspiracies.

[IroNat]

I read that Trump made Coke switch to cane sugar because it's healthier I can see that it may taste better though (haven't compared).

HFCS being uniquely evil compared to white table sugar is another myth I think, I'm sure I've written about it here maybe 20 years ago, but people love their myths and conspiracies.

Trump said it tastes better.  However, he only drinks Diet Coke. 

[Brenda Steunbeer]

The less processed food is, the better. Sugar always is less bad than artificial sweeteners (they can have very serious adverse effecs), or high fructose corn syrup

[MajorDomo]

The less processed food is, the better. Sugar always is less bad than artificial sweeteners (they can have very serious adverse effecs), or high fructose corn syrup

This. Go to a big grocery store and look for the Mexican food section. Usually you will find Coke in glass bottles and...cane sugar, not HFCS. Even the Mexicans know better.

[Van_Bilderass]

The less processed food is, the better. Sugar always is less bad than artificial sweeteners (they can have very serious adverse effecs), or high fructose corn syrup

This is just not true. You always have to look at individual substances on a case by case basis. "Processed" isn't always worse and "man made chemicals" aren't always worse either. Sometimes processed might even improve nutrient profile, for example some canned vegetables might retain all nutrients and might in fact make some nutrients more bioavailable, by ripening the vegetable more. Saying sugar is ALWAYS better than artificial sweeteners is just ignorant. For example, the fructose part of sugar wreaks havoc on the liver and sugar also obviously makes you fatter which is very harmful. Many artificial sweeteners have only possibly shown harmful effects i n mice at thousands of times the the dosage a human would ingest. The poison is in the dosage as it always is. What proof do you have that HFCS is more harmful than white sugar, it's fructose and glucose in pretty much the same ratio? We process many foods, only some freaks insist on eating everything in its raw state. Just cooking something is processing. So the dumbos insist eating meat raw "because it's healthier." Not cooking an egg makes the protein only 50% bioavailable, cooking it first makes it almost 100%, an absolutely huge improvement, not to mention killing salmonella and removing avidin. Is cheese, cottage cheese harmful whereas milk is not, I mean it's processed?
Think!

I've posted this many times before. Give this ingredient list to the average conspiracist know-nothing dumbo and ask if they would eat it? "Oh hell no, never would eat all those CHEMICALS!"

[dj181]

I read that Trump made Coke switch to cane sugar because it's healthier I can see that it may taste better though (haven't compared).

HFCS being uniquely evil compared to white table sugar is another myth I think, I'm sure I've written about it here maybe 20 years ago, but people love their myths and conspiracies.

I put tons of.sugar in my.morning coffee and I'm ripped and very fit

[GymnJuice]

This is just not true. You always have to look at individual substances on a case by case basis. "Processed" isn't always worse and "man made chemicals" aren't always worse either. Sometimes processed might even improve nutrient profile, for example some canned vegetables might retain all nutrients and might in fact make some nutrients more bioavailable, by ripening the vegetable more. Saying sugar is ALWAYS better than artificial sweeteners is just ignorant. For example, the fructose part of sugar wreaks havoc on the liver and sugar also obviously makes you fatter which is very harmful. Many artificial sweeteners have only possibly shown harmful effects i n mice at thousands of times the the dosage a human would ingest. The poison is in the dosage as it always is. What proof do you have that HFCS is more harmful than white sugar, it's fructose and glucose in pretty much the same ratio? We process many foods, only some freaks insist on eating everything in its raw state. Just cooking something is processing. So the dumbos insist eating meat raw "because it's healthier." Not cooking an egg makes the protein only 50% bioavailable, cooking it first makes it almost 100%, an absolutely huge improvement, not to mention killing salmonella and removing avidin. Is cheese, cottage cheese harmful whereas milk is not, I mean it's processed?
Think!

I've posted this many times before. Give this ingredient list to the average conspiracist know-nothing dumbo and ask if they would eat it? "Oh hell no, never would eat all those CHEMICALS!"

I agree. I think the artificial sweeteners might have bad effects, but I think sugar is worse for most people. Maybe if somebody is in a caloric deficit or very skinny the sugar might not be as bad. But for most people and especially most Americans I think sugar is a big culprit behind a lot of the obesity, diabetes, and heart disease in the population.

[Van_Bilderass]

I agree. I think the artificial sweeteners might have bad effects, but I think sugar is worse for most people. Maybe if somebody is in a caloric deficit or very skinny the sugar might not be as bad. But for most people and especially most Americans I think sugar is a big culprit behind a lot of the obesity, diabetes, and heart disease in the population.

Yes it's the fructose in too large quantities, plus the added caloric load. But line for an athlete, especially an endurance athlete, drinking a regular coke after a session will enhance recovery and be beneficial  In that situation replenishing liver glyogen as well as muscle glycogen with regular sugar can be good.

Take something like aspartame. One reason it's thought by some to be harmful to the brain is the phenylallanibe content. But any person who perhaps exercises with half a brain would go, wait a minute, am I not taking phenylalanine in the grams through my supps?

Everything is toxic. It's about the dosage and context. Besides, sometimes ingesting small amounts of toxins can actually strengthen the body, it's called hormesis. Freaking cocaine could protect the brain in some small acute brain injury context.

[wes]

Fructose Is A Superfood!   

[dj181]

Yes it's the fructose in too large quantities, plus the added caloric load. But line for an athlete, especially an endurance athlete, drinking a regular coke after a session will enhance recovery and be beneficial  In that situation replenishing liver glyogen as well as muscle glycogen with regular sugar can be good.

They taught me that same thing about a can of coke replenishing carb stores after a run at The Ohio State University Exercise Science class

[Van_Bilderass]

They taught me that same thing about a can of coke replenishing carb stores after a run at The Ohio State University Exercise Science class

Yup. All those carb replenishment powders sold to endurance athletes are glucose and fructose blends. Table sugar is half and half both, so a can of coke is just as good. Chocolate milk would be even better, get the protein too as well as sodium for better hydration after exercise.

[Rambone]

Yes.

[dj181]

Yup. All those carb replenishment powders sold to endurance athletes are glucose and fructose blends. Table sugar is half and half both, so a can of coke is just as good. Chocolate milk would be even better, get the protein too as well as sodium for better hydration after exercise.

Yep

My good friend sent me a post bout how great milk is

I drink it everyday for breakfast

By the way my orgasams are fuckking amazing feels incredible blowing loads shit is awesome 😁😁😁

So could this be from the androgenicity of cheque drops?

[IroNat]

Those who believe HFCS is worse than table sugar should read the link I posted.

There is hardly any difference.

Excess sugar in any form is unhealthy.

[Van_Bilderass]

Those who believe HFCS is worse than table sugar should read the link I posted.

There is hardly any difference.

Excess sugar in any form is unhealthy.

Problem is people don't read anything these days, they only have time for 10s tiktoks. Smart and curious people figure shit out quickly, most just keep believing "chemicals are bad" or whatever, they don't CARE to learn...

Guys on this thread will keep believing all food processing is bad or any other belief they have adopted

[Marvin Martian]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sugar_industry_of_the_United_States

Right now it's Florida, Louisiana, and Texas.

Yep - family had a plantation for 200 years - the big house is still on it but only use it for rental and I think they still do tours. I can’t stand the stuff but there is a mill we ran for our cane and other farms (don’t really call em plantations anymore for obvious reasons ) so during the season as a kid we would get a stalk and chew on em. Ironically I’m not a big fan of sugar - but raw is by far the bet choice. Once it’s refined it’s basically poison imo. I did love our cane syrup as a kid though. That and butter on a biscuit made Saturday morning cartoons the dream! Lol I’m sure some of you old fckrs would wake up early on Saturdays to catch as many cartoons as possible. We used to try and wake up before they started broadcasting for the day - which I bet most of the cats here under 50 don’t even know what I’m talking about

[IroNat]

Yep - family had a plantation for 200 years - the big house is still on it but only use it for rental and I think they still do tours. I can’t stand the stuff but there is a mill we ran for our cane and other farms (don’t really call em plantations anymore for obvious reasons ) so during the season as a kid we would get a stalk and chew on em. Ironically I’m not a big fan of sugar - but raw is by far the bet choice. Once it’s refined it’s basically poison imo. I did love our cane syrup as a kid though. That and butter on a biscuit made Saturday morning cartoons the dream! Lol I’m sure some of you old fckrs would wake up early on Saturdays to catch as many cartoons as possible. We used to try and wake up before they started broadcasting for the day - which I bet most of the cats here under 50 don’t even know what I’m talking about

There are abandoned sugar mills down south.

What caused your family's mill to go out of business?

[Van_Bilderass]

Ironically I’m not a big fan of sugar - but raw is by far the bet choice. Once it’s refined it’s basically poison imo.

Sure

Guys on this thread will keep believing all food processing is bad or any other belief they have adopted

[Lartinos]

Both sugar cane and HFCS are natural super foods.

A man named Brian from here who is full time researcher enlightened us on this.

[_bruce_]

Avoid all sugar and only eat fruit if it's unripe and even then add some butter to it.
The insanity on this planet is, in parts, caused by bad foods and bastard-chemicals.