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Shoe Removal No Longer Required At TSA
« on: August 02, 2025, 05:22:22 AM »
Shoe removal is no longer required at the TSA.  This should have happened a long time ago.  This took a huge amount of time and was hassle.

Why did it take 20 years to end this?





https://www.cnn.com/2025/07/08/travel/tsa-shoes-security-checkpoints

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Re: Shoe Removal No Longer Required At TSA
« Reply #1 on: August 02, 2025, 05:37:37 AM »
To be fair, it was mostly ended a while back.  Many airports sort of just looked the other way. 

It was hardly ever done in foreign countries after COVID.

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Re: Shoe Removal No Longer Required At TSA
« Reply #2 on: August 02, 2025, 05:54:44 AM »
Shoe removal is no longer required at the TSA.  This should have happened a long time ago.  This took a huge amount of time and was hassle.

Why did it take 20 years to end this?


Yes I noticed when I flew out of Heathrow & into San Francisco
3wks ago.
And some UK airports have dropped the 100ml fluid limit. 




https://www.cnn.com/2025/07/08/travel/tsa-shoes-security-checkpoints
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Re: Shoe Removal No Longer Required At TSA
« Reply #3 on: August 02, 2025, 07:01:13 AM »
To be fair, it was mostly ended a while back.  Many airports sort of just looked the other way. 

It was hardly ever done in foreign countries after COVID.

Looked the other way?  Are you kidding me?  Have you been through TSA?

I have my chest patted down almost every time I go through there.  They must be thinking to themselves, this can't be real.


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Re: Shoe Removal No Longer Required At TSA
« Reply #4 on: August 02, 2025, 08:46:57 AM »
I don't remember anyone at TSA looking the other way.

And Im not sure that TSA ended it. I think it differs from Airport to Airport depending on twhat echnology that terminal is using.

I travel a lot. Recently I flew out of the international departing flights- even though I was traveling within the country- and no shoes off, but computer had to come out of bag.

Next time- a few weeks later Im coming home-shoes off but everything stays in bag, including computer.. Next time I leave home I leave out of the Domestic terminal and its shoes off and computer comes out of the bag. And this was two weeks ago.

I travel at least once a month for at least 5 days at a time, sometimes longer, before heading home from a different airport-obviously- for the past 4 years. I fact Im leaving out of PDX tomorrow and arriving at ORD. I've flown to Hawaii, Mexico, Germany,  Greece,  Key West, DFW, DTW, Denver, LaGuardia, JFK among others...

The thing that pisses me off is each Airport,  each terminal, often has different rules and you go through the motions but TSA agents yell and talk to everyone like they're dumb AF. Though they're less than unarmed rent-a-cops who couldn't hack it on a real law enforcement agency- most couldn't pass the background- they wield the power to put you on the "no fly list" which can fuck up your life but good.

Its like, I know you have shouted out these rules a thousand times a day BUT many of the people you're talking down to have only been to an airport once in the last 10 years. And they are confused from just getting there. Let alone understanding the TSA's idiotic, inconsistent rules and these people are hearing these fucking rules for the first time but the agents are talking to them so condescendingly.

I think in order to be TSA you have to have bastard children and "lived on welfare" needs to be on your resume'.

For some reason my shoulder blade always shows up on their XRay machine as being hot and they have to pat me down. 9 outta ten trips. They always explain the pat down process which I nod in understanding and say Its OK. Ive been patted down before,  I know the rules please just do the pat down im in a hurry. Anytime I say this they get an attitude and start talking slower and adding more shit to their admonishment and start lecturing me about the law- I don't bother to check them despite knowing what their telling me is either a blatant lie or a butchered , incomprehensible misunderstanding of something they were supposed to learn at TSA school.

My wife carried a small pocket knife for protection.  Has since 2005 and carried it up to about 2015. We must've flown 20 X during this time. This pocket knife wound up in the bottom of her purse among the other fucking junk women have in their purse. And never once did the X ray or any TSA agent notice it.lAnd she certainly forgot about it. One day the metal detector indicates something in her purse. We're pulled aside and they ask for consent. We both say "sure." This TSA agent acts like  Frank Oz in the blues brothers or trading places. He reaches into her purse with a metal set of 3 foot long tongs and pulls out this pocket knife , which is no larger than a pair of toenail clippers. The agent acts like he's found a ticking time bomb and handles it as dramatically as one possibly could.

Long story short- wife gets a ticket in the mail- either pay a 1,000.00 fine now and she'llbe added to a list of 'high risk' people, or fight it in federal court, which  would require a flight back out to the jurisdiction where the knife was found. If she fought it the fine would be 5,000.00 and added to the no-fly list.

It was nothing short of extortion. The TSA are total assholes.

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Re: Shoe Removal No Longer Required At TSA
« Reply #5 on: August 02, 2025, 08:56:08 AM »
I actually like taking them off and I will continue doing it.

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Re: Shoe Removal No Longer Required At TSA
« Reply #6 on: August 02, 2025, 12:36:49 PM »
Get TSA pre check and you don’t have to worry about it.

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Re: Shoe Removal No Longer Required At TSA
« Reply #7 on: August 02, 2025, 02:44:02 PM »
Looked the other way?  Are you kidding me?  Have you been through TSA?

I have my chest patted down almost every time I go through there.  They must be thinking to themselves, this can't be real.

Have you never read any posts of mine?  I am pretty sure I travel more than anyone on this board.

And yes, they all seem to look the other way.  I have not taken my shoes off but maybe three times in the last 4 years.

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Re: Shoe Removal No Longer Required At TSA
« Reply #8 on: August 02, 2025, 02:45:33 PM »
I actually like taking them off and I will continue doing it.

Hahahaha.  Make them xray those shoes whether they like it or not.

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Re: Shoe Removal No Longer Required At TSA
« Reply #9 on: August 04, 2025, 06:45:29 AM »
Have you never read any posts of mine?  I am pretty sure I travel more than anyone on this board.

And yes, they all seem to look the other way.  I have not taken my shoes off but maybe three times in the last 4 years.

please list six airports you've gone through, that require shoe removal, but you left yours on.  Preferably large airports.


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Re: Shoe Removal No Longer Required At TSA
« Reply #10 on: August 04, 2025, 08:05:35 AM »
Foot fetish TSA agents are disappointed.

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Re: Shoe Removal No Longer Required At TSA
« Reply #11 on: August 04, 2025, 08:16:53 AM »
LOL laughable


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Re: Shoe Removal No Longer Required At TSA
« Reply #12 on: August 04, 2025, 09:55:13 AM »
please list six airports you've gone through, that require shoe removal, but you left yours on.  Preferably large airports.

This isn't just me leaving my shoes on, it was everyone else in line as well.

Since November 2024 :

November
Miami - Doha - Bangkok
Bankok - Singapore
Singapore - Newark - Ft Lauderdale

December
Ft Lauderdale - LAX - Narita
Narita - Dallas /  Ft Worth - Ft Lauderdale

January
Heathrow - Miami

March
Ft Lauderdale - Las Vegas
Las Vegas - Ft Lauderdale

May
Ft Lauderdale - Atlanta - Rome
Paris - Atlanta - Ft Lauderdale

The last time I took my shoes off was July 2024 at JFK on my way to Seoul.

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Re: Shoe Removal No Longer Required At TSA
« Reply #13 on: August 05, 2025, 04:36:00 AM »
This isn't just me leaving my shoes on, it was everyone else in line as well.

Since November 2024 :

November
Miami - Doha - Bangkok
Bankok - Singapore
Singapore - Newark - Ft Lauderdale

December
Ft Lauderdale - LAX - Narita
Narita - Dallas /  Ft Worth - Ft Lauderdale

January
Heathrow - Miami

March
Ft Lauderdale - Las Vegas
Las Vegas - Ft Lauderdale

May
Ft Lauderdale - Atlanta - Rome
Paris - Atlanta - Ft Lauderdale

The last time I took my shoes off was July 2024 at JFK on my way to Seoul.

If everyone else in line left their shoes on, that means it wasn't required to take them off.  Not every airport required you to take them off.  You just Happened to fly out of the ones that don't.

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Re: Shoe Removal No Longer Required At TSA
« Reply #14 on: August 05, 2025, 05:37:31 AM »
If everyone else in line left their shoes on, that means it wasn't required to take them off.  Not every airport required you to take them off.  You just Happened to fly out of the ones that don't.

In the US, that was "mandatory" after the shoe bomber.  Every airline I listed in the US for originating/departing/connecting is a major hub that required it.   As I said, most airports have been lax and looked the other way letting people leave them on.  They still had signs up for taking your shoes off and liquids out.  I haven't taken liquids out in a much longer time.

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Re: Shoe Removal No Longer Required At TSA
« Reply #15 on: August 05, 2025, 08:49:15 PM »
I don't remember anyone at TSA looking the other way.

And Im not sure that TSA ended it. I think it differs from Airport to Airport depending on twhat echnology that terminal is using.

I travel a lot. Recently I flew out of the international departing flights- even though I was traveling within the country- and no shoes off, but computer had to come out of bag.

Next time- a few weeks later Im coming home-shoes off but everything stays in bag, including computer.. Next time I leave home I leave out of the Domestic terminal and its shoes off and computer comes out of the bag. And this was two weeks ago.

I travel at least once a month for at least 5 days at a time, sometimes longer, before heading home from a different airport-obviously- for the past 4 years. I fact Im leaving out of PDX tomorrow and arriving at ORD. I've flown to Hawaii, Mexico, Germany,  Greece,  Key West, DFW, DTW, Denver, LaGuardia, JFK among others...

The thing that pisses me off is each Airport,  each terminal, often has different rules and you go through the motions but TSA agents yell and talk to everyone like they're dumb AF. Though they're less than unarmed rent-a-cops who couldn't hack it on a real law enforcement agency- most couldn't pass the background- they wield the power to put you on the "no fly list" which can fuck up your life but good.

Its like, I know you have shouted out these rules a thousand times a day BUT many of the people you're talking down to have only been to an airport once in the last 10 years. And they are confused from just getting there. Let alone understanding the TSA's idiotic, inconsistent rules and these people are hearing these fucking rules for the first time but the agents are talking to them so condescendingly.

I think in order to be TSA you have to have bastard children and "lived on welfare" needs to be on your resume'.

For some reason my shoulder blade always shows up on their XRay machine as being hot and they have to pat me down. 9 outta ten trips. They always explain the pat down process which I nod in understanding and say Its OK. Ive been patted down before,  I know the rules please just do the pat down im in a hurry. Anytime I say this they get an attitude and start talking slower and adding more shit to their admonishment and start lecturing me about the law- I don't bother to check them despite knowing what their telling me is either a blatant lie or a butchered , incomprehensible misunderstanding of something they were supposed to learn at TSA school.

My wife carried a small pocket knife for protection.  Has since 2005 and carried it up to about 2015. We must've flown 20 X during this time. This pocket knife wound up in the bottom of her purse among the other fucking junk women have in their purse. And never once did the X ray or any TSA agent notice it.lAnd she certainly forgot about it. One day the metal detector indicates something in her purse. We're pulled aside and they ask for consent. We both say "sure." This TSA agent acts like  Frank Oz in the blues brothers or trading places. He reaches into her purse with a metal set of 3 foot long tongs and pulls out this pocket knife , which is no larger than a pair of toenail clippers. The agent acts like he's found a ticking time bomb and handles it as dramatically as one possibly could.

Long story short- wife gets a ticket in the mail- either pay a 1,000.00 fine now and she'llbe added to a list of 'high risk' people, or fight it in federal court, which  would require a flight back out to the jurisdiction where the knife was found. If she fought it the fine would be 5,000.00 and added to the no-fly list.

It was nothing short of extortion. The TSA are total assholes.

Exactly, I've never seen the TSA look the other way on anything.  Like you, I also get a pat down.

Usually I'm waiting in line for an hour, so not having to remove shoes is a huge time saver. 

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Re: Shoe Removal No Longer Required At TSA
« Reply #16 on: August 05, 2025, 09:01:15 PM »
I read  that for a bit Tulsi Gabbard was flagged for some type of "enhanced checks" at airports. Now she's Director of National Intelligence. What a circus. Some "controversial bloggers and X posters with questionable, though not illegal, views" are added to no fly lists with no explanation given and no affirmation of actually being on a no fly list  ??? ::) :D "Freedom."

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Re: Shoe Removal No Longer Required At TSA
« Reply #17 on: August 06, 2025, 06:25:38 AM »
Exactly, I've never seen the TSA look the other way on anything.  Like you, I also get a pat down.

Usually I'm waiting in line for an hour, so not having to remove shoes is a huge time saver.

What time are you flying?  I am mostly leaving before 6am or after 10pm, so that might be the case.  When I leave, sometimes the Pre Check isn't even open.  They are just herding people through the regular lanes and even then, no shoes come off and it takes about 15-20 minutes.

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Re: Shoe Removal No Longer Required At TSA
« Reply #18 on: August 06, 2025, 07:06:39 AM »
I usually get there at 6:00 am for an 8:30 flight.  The whole process takes an hour and twenty minutes from the time I get in line until my shoes are back on.

I've only flown out of one airport that did not require me to take my shoes off and I used to fly nationally for work.

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Re: Shoe Removal No Longer Required At TSA
« Reply #19 on: August 06, 2025, 06:27:47 PM »
Have you never read any posts of mine?  I am pretty sure I travel more than anyone on this board.

And yes, they all seem to look the other way.  I have not taken my shoes off but maybe three times in the last 4 years.

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People drasticaly overestimate security's professionnalism, in ever situation.

For 1 hard working TSA/cop/security or whatever, you have 10 lazy ones who can't do their job for shit, or don't want to do it.