This guy is on 2 grams of gear/week !!

[affeman]

@2:55 lol

[joswift]

its not unusual these days with all the bunk gear

[Van_Bilderass]

I don't know what the implication is by being "shocked" by certain milligrams. That they're doing something wrong or what? How big "should" you be on 500mg or 2 grams? Plenty of people look like they never lifted a weight on any steroid dose.

[affeman]

I don't know what the implication is by being "shocked" by certain milligrams. That they're doing something wrong or what? How big "should" you be on 500mg or 2 grams? Plenty of people look like they never lifted a weight on any steroid dose.

Dude 2 grams is a dose for an IFBB Open Pro

[38 returns]

One of the lads who competes in mens physique in our place is on an off season of

600mg test
600mg deca
600mg mast


pre contest
switches to
1ml prop/ 1 ml mast prop/ 1ml tren/ 1 ml primo a day

8 iu of hgh

he looks like he has trained a year


hankins used ot take north of 1500 test a week! and looked like a swimmer

bottom line if the genes arent there they arent there

I know what jeff takes or rather took and its loads lower than the above and i mean loads. but he looks like a bber. bottom line we can take nathan de ashas cycle but we wont look like him


THE most effective cycle i ever did was

M/W/F 1ml sust 1 ml 75mg/ml tren acetate
with 30mg dbol

blew me up and cut me to ribbons.

when i go back on end of month it will be

300mg test
300mg deca
200mg mast

12 weeks with an oral of choice pre workout wk-14 and 8-12

post 40 I think less is more if you get everything else in check

[Rambone]

Imagine if he took 4 grams a gear/week?? He’d be ready to explode!

[38 returns]

Imagine if he took 4 grams a gear/week?? He’d be ready to explode!

hes rumoured to have a cybergenics link up

[Coach is Back!]

150mg Cyp

[dj181]

If you can't turn pro on 1500 mts total this "sport" is not for you

[dj181]

Here ya go

Dusty flat out said 1200 test was no better than 750 test at 28:30

They both ran test eq.

Ron 750 test 600 eq

Dusty 750 test 300 eq abombs

[ThisisOverload]

Dude 2 grams is a dose for an IFBB Open Pro entry level gym rat benching 315 for reps.

Fixed.

[Van_Bilderass]

Dude 2 grams is a dose for an IFBB Open Pro

And? 5-6 grams was the sweet spot for ESFitness. I'm not ridiculing ES saying this BTW. Two grams of "what" matters also. Coach is on 150mg. Researchers put guys who never used on 600mg from the start of the study. Dan Duchaine put first timers on 1000mg of test right off the bat, "nothing less will do."

With all due respect, I doubt you see personally what goes on but maybe you do?

If you can't turn pro on 1500 mts total this "sport" is not for you

They are ridiculous with this grandstanding, holier than though, attitude. Take the average heavyweight trying for a pro card, just the test is usually at 1.5, but if it isn't the average load is still at about 3-4 grams. It may be too much, but that's what's happening. Your buddy, what's his name, the 50 years old, said he took 1 gram test, 1 gram Primo, and he turned "pro" but he isn't any kind of pro level.

[dj181]

And? 5-6 grams was the sweet spot for ESFitness. I'm not ridiculing ES saying this BTW. Two grams of "what" matters also. Coach is on 150mg. Researchers put guys who never used on 600mg from the start of the study. Dan Duchaine put first timers on 1000mg of test right off the bat, "nothing less will do."

With all due respect, I doubt you see personally what goes on but maybe you do?

They are ridiculous with this grandstanding, holier than though, attitude. Take the average heavyweight trying for a pro card, just the test is usually at 1.5, but if it isn't the average load is still at about 3-4 grams. It may be too much, but that's what's happening. Your buddy, what's his name, the 50 years old, said he took 1 gram test, 1 gram Primo, and he turned "pro" but he isn't any kind of pro level.

True but right there in that vid hanshaw flat out said....1200 mgs of test gave no extra benefits over 750

Fritzwater said the exact same fuckimg thing so did coach little Joe and so did...... Doctor JM Blakely he said it to me on pm in Fagbook

All those fuckimg guys are NOT LYING

[38 returns]

True but right there in that vid hanshaw flat out said....1200 mgs of test gave no extra benefits over 750

Fritzwater said the exact same fuckimg thing so did coach little Joe and so did...... Doctor JM Blakely he said it to me on pm in Fagbook

All those fuckimg guys are NOT LYING

they all say the same thing

and do the opposite

[joswift]

I have no idea why people lie about what they take

Do they think that it makes them look like this genetic freak that is different than everyone else

I know what people took back in the 80s and 90s

I knew a guy who competed with Dorian and was onstage for the overall with him when he won the British in 1988.
He told me that he was talking to Dorian at the show and they discussed gear, Dorian claimed 500 test and 2 parabolon a week.. GH wasnt even a thing back then
Dorian obviously upped the dose since then and was likely on multiple grams at his peak.

I was advised when I started to take as little as possible, I started on 8x2mg tabs Winstrol a day, thats 16mgs in total.. I responded really well to that

Steroids were almost all real pharma back then and good to go

in the mid 90s I could get a 2gms test 10ml vial for £3
I got the 5mg tabs pronabol for £2 x100 tabs

2 of the original French Parabolon a week was enough for anyone, more than that you ended up with huge low back pumps and anxiety off the fucking charts

I hardly ever took more than a gram a week, mostly 700 mgs pre-contest and 250-500 test off season
I couldnt tolerate much more than that I used to feel unwell off it

[dj181]

they all say the same thing

and do the opposite

Shit fascinating me because I love the truth

Funny thing is I AM COMPLETELY OVER GAINING SIZE

In fact I don't want gain any size at tall

My gear guy is gonna check raw world records in the 50-59 year old 67.5 kg class and fill me in on it once I bring him my total estradiol test results a week from Monday

[joswift]

Shit fascinating me because I love the truth

Funny thing is I AM COMPLETELY OVER GAINING SIZE

In fact I don't want gain any size at tall

My gear guy is gonna check raw world records in the 50-59 year old 67.5 kg class and fill me in on it once I bring him my total estradiol test results a week from Monday

so amazingly his gear contact speaks English as well

Oh, and he can manage to communicate enough to source someone to check his bloods and pay for it as well

[38 returns]

I have no idea why people lie about what they take

Do they think that it makes them look like this genetic freak that is different than everyone else

I know what people took back in the 80s and 90s

I knew a guy who competed with Dorian and was onstage for the overall with him when he won the British in 1988.
He told me that he was talking to Dorian at the show and they discussed gear, Dorian claimed 500 test and 2 parabolon a week.. GH wasnt even a thing back then
Dorian obviously upped the dose since then and was likely on multiple grams at his peak.

I was advised when I started to take as little as possible, I started on 8x2mg tabs Winstrol a day, thats 16mgs in total.. I responded really well to that

Steroids were almost all real pharma back then and good to go

in the mid 90s I could get a 2gms test 10ml vial for £3
I got the 5mg tabs pronabol for £2 x100 tabs

2 of the original French Parabolon a week was enough for anyone, more than that you ended up with huge low back pumps and anxiety off the fucking charts

I hardly ever took more than a gram a week, mostly 700 mgs pre-contest and 250-500 test off season
I couldnt tolerate much more than that I used to feel unwell off it

Pronabol 5

loved that

I was paying 12 quid a hundred!! hahah

genuinely blew up on that

[Van_Bilderass]

True but right there in that vid hanshaw flat out said....1200 mgs of test gave no extra benefits over 750

Fritzwater said the exact same fuckimg thing so did coach little Joe and so did...... Doctor JM Blakely he said it to me on pm in Fagbook

All those fuckimg guys are NOT LYING

Here's the thing. So lower test is popular now... so they claim. That means they may be adding 1.5 grams of Primo and the same with Masteron. I know they say less but many confess to higher Primo and Mast. Todd said Masteron was his "primary anabolic" and he was on 1050mg. They are in the range I mentioned, the "total anabolic load" is the same, they only switched around the compounds, ALL do it due to Victor Black's so called "healthier use" protocols. Plenty of top pros do 250mg of Tren a day precontest. Always the 200mg of Winstrol a day in the end for the  "diuretic" anti-cortisol effects.

[dj181]

Here's the thing. So lower test is popular now... so they claim. That means they may be adding 1.5 grams of Primo and the same with Masteron. I know they say less but many confess to higher Primo and Mast. Todd said Masteron was his "primary anabolic" and he was on 1050mg. They are in the range I mentioned, the "total anabolic load" is the same, they only switched around the compounds, ALL do it due to Victor Black's so called "healthier use" protocols. Plenty of top pros do 250mg of Tren a day precontest. Always the 200mg of Winstrol a day in the end for the  "diuretic" anti-cortisol effects.

Of


Clod pee was running 400 mast daily ie 3 grams

[Van_Bilderass]

Of


Clod pee was running 400 mast daily ie 3 grams

Trying to figure out who Clod Pee is LOL

But yes, they megadose these anabolics. For many years bodybuilders insisted Masteron was ONLY cosmetic and made them "flat." Took a few years until most came around. Victor promoted these because they have been extensively tested in humans and look like they aren't very toxic. I recall some study where women with breast cancer were dosed with 1800 or 2100mg of Masteron LOL.

There's a Masteron shortage right now, otherwise I'd like to finally try it at a substancial dose.

[dj181]

Trying to figure out who Clod Pee is LOL

But yes, they megadose these anabolics. For many years bodybuilders insisted Masteron was ONLY cosmetic and made them "flat." Took a few years until most came around. Victor promoted these because they have been extensively tested in humans and look like they aren't very toxic. I recall some study where women with breast cancer were dosed with 1800 or 2100mg of Masteron LOL.

There's a Masteron shortage right now, otherwise I'd like to finally try it at a substancial dose.

😁😁😁

Todd lee

[MAXX]

I know a guy taking 500grams test + masteron and he looks like nothing. Arab guy. A real dumbass. Doesn't how to train or eat... and that combined is why.

[Methyl m1ke]

I don't know what the implication is by being "shocked" by certain milligrams. That they're doing something wrong or what? How big "should" you be on 500mg or 2 grams? Plenty of people look like they never lifted a weight on any steroid dose.

Without a foundation built on years of drug free lifting steroids arent so great for most

[joswift]

Without a foundation built on years of drug free lifting steroids arent so great for most

Foundation my arse

Muscles are muscles, we all end up back where we started when we stop

If we create new muscle fibres then how come Kevin Leverone blew up and down between shows, he would drop 50lb of lean tissue and then "regain" it again in 12 weeks

Its all. about expanding the tissues with excercise drugs/carbs and water

The only reason pros are heavier these days is because they are holding more water