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Re: Derek Lunsford 9 weeks out
« Reply #25 on: August 12, 2025, 06:53:44 AM »
Sure. To win the popularity award among the crowd. And possibly the judging.

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Re: Derek Lunsford 9 weeks out
« Reply #26 on: August 12, 2025, 07:12:44 AM »
his arms are pitiful for a Mr Olympia; 2nd worst of all time behind Dorian's :-\



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Re: Derek Lunsford 9 weeks out
« Reply #27 on: August 12, 2025, 07:15:20 AM »
in Chris defense his arms looked balanced with the rest of his physique

Dorian with huge lats gut, mellon head  and no biceps is tough to match/beat


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Re: Derek Lunsford 9 weeks out
« Reply #28 on: August 12, 2025, 07:36:26 AM »
in Chris defense his arms looked balanced with the rest of his physique

Dorian with huge lats gut, mellon head  and no biceps is tough to match/beat


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Re: Derek Lunsford 9 weeks out
« Reply #29 on: August 12, 2025, 10:14:21 AM »
Stop it  ::)

Kevin did a youtube recently where he claims joe weider confided in him that dorian was picked to win to sell magazines in britain. If true...

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Re: Derek Lunsford 9 weeks out
« Reply #30 on: August 12, 2025, 11:11:52 AM »
Kevin did a youtube recently where he claims joe weider confided in him that dorian was picked to win to sell magazines in britain. If true...

That's silly like the British market was going to yield so much revenue from magazines , Especially considering the US was the mecca for bodybuilding and it was niche market and even more so in the UK. It defies logic , Shawn Ray was on more magazine covers than Dorian by far. If Joe Weider was going to hand pick people to win he's be an idiot not to pick Lee Labrada, Handsome , articulate , College educated married family man with an " attainable " physique much more marketable than a pasty Brit who was a  " skinhead " and disappeared back to the UK after every contest.

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Re: Derek Lunsford 9 weeks out
« Reply #31 on: August 12, 2025, 11:15:32 AM »
his whole left side is atrophied

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Re: Derek Lunsford 9 weeks out
« Reply #32 on: August 12, 2025, 01:36:01 PM »
his whole left side is atrophied

I didn't notice it, but you're right.  His left lat is noticeably smaller than his right lat, and the same goes for his pecs.  He must have goofed at the gym.  What injury causes this?  Shoulder?

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Re: Derek Lunsford 9 weeks out
« Reply #33 on: August 12, 2025, 01:51:15 PM »
That's silly like the British market was going to yield so much revenue from magazines , Especially considering the US was the mecca for bodybuilding and it was niche market and even more so in the UK. It defies logic , Shawn Ray was on more magazine covers than Dorian by far. If Joe Weider was going to hand pick people to win he's be an idiot not to pick Lee Labrada, Handsome , articulate , College educated married family man with an " attainable " physique much more marketable than a pasty Brit who was a  " skinhead " and disappeared back to the UK after every contest.

I think Weider did make Dorian remove the skin tattoo on his forearm, and was questioning him, asking if he was an antisemite and so on. Well, Dorian turned out to be some kind of "antisemite" after his career, to his credit IMO.

I think marketing did come in for his decision to sponsor him, give him a contract. My guess is Joe was influenced a lot by Peter McGough. Despite him being a non-show most of the year he became a fan favorite at least. And he became a favorite on the podcaster circuit, despite his controversial views regarding you-know-who. He must be personable enough I guess, despite not being a loud mouth.

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Re: Derek Lunsford 9 weeks out
« Reply #34 on: August 12, 2025, 02:04:43 PM »
I think Weider did make Dorian remove the skin tattoo on his forearm, and was questioning him, asking if he was an antisemite and so on. Well, Dorian turned out to be some kind of "antisemite" after his career, to his credit IMO.

I think marketing did come in for his decision to sponsor him, give him a contract. My guess is Joe was influenced a lot by Peter McGough. Despite him being a non-show most of the year he became a fan favorite at least.

Tattoo wasn't on his forearm it was on his knuckles and I think Dorian removed it on his own accord. The premise was he was handpicked to become Mr Olympia to sell more magazines in the UK?  ??? It's defies logic. So many more marketable guys in the US to entertain that line of thinking

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Re: Derek Lunsford 9 weeks out
« Reply #35 on: August 12, 2025, 02:09:14 PM »
Tattoo wasn't on his forearm it was on his knuckles and I think Dorian removed it on his own accord. The premise was he was handpicked to become Mr Olympia to sell more magazines in the UK?  ??? It's defies logic. So many more marketable guys in the US to entertain that line of thinking
You just posted a photo of the tattoos clearly on his forearms, and yes he did have them removed because they were linked to a far right group at the time

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Re: Derek Lunsford 9 weeks out
« Reply #36 on: August 12, 2025, 02:11:15 PM »
You just posted a photo of the tattoos clearly on his forearms, and yes he did have them removed because they were linked to a far right group at the time

The SKIN tattoo on his knuckles he removed I believe after his 1992 Olympia win. The other was the My England tattoo with the Bulldog & red boot which he doesn't have anymore either but did that after he retired.


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Re: Derek Lunsford 9 weeks out
« Reply #37 on: August 12, 2025, 03:59:47 PM »
I didn't notice it, but you're right.  His left lat is noticeably smaller than his right lat, and the same goes for his pecs.  He must have goofed at the gym.  What injury causes this?  Shoulder?

his quad as well. based on the widespread nature of it, its likely neural adaptation and poor recruitment. his arm is also smaller.

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Re: Derek Lunsford 9 weeks out
« Reply #38 on: August 12, 2025, 05:08:58 PM »
what a fucking butterball, its embarrassing how far bodybuilding has fallen

look at Jay in 14 place in 1999


Funny you mention mentioned cutler in 1999. I went to that Olympia prejudging. Went with a few of the writers from Musclemag (if you’re old and remember musclemag). We all sat and critiqued. To a person, everyone was freaked out by cutler. And every single one also said “he’s awesome but he won’t place because there’s always one freak that has to pay his dues”. That was cutler thst year. He was absolutely impressive. And also there was no way any judge was going to care. His time as we all know came soon enough anyway. I always thought his 1999 showing and conditioning never got enough props. But no one cared; it was the halcyon days of wheeler/coleman/cormier, with a withering levrone, el sonbaty and ray thrown in for good measure.

I liken it to how Dexter Jackson should have placed higher earlier on in his career, but those were the days of “pay your dues”. Whatever that’s worth.


Thanks for the trip down memory lane joswift!

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Re: Derek Lunsford 9 weeks out
« Reply #39 on: August 12, 2025, 05:18:19 PM »
Funny you mention mentioned cutler in 1999. I went to that Olympia prejudging. Went with a few of the writers from Musclemag (if you’re old and remember musclemag). We all sat and critiqued. To a person, everyone was freaked out by cutler. And every single one also said “he’s awesome but he won’t place because there’s always one freak that has to pay his dues”. That was cutler thst year. He was absolutely impressive. And also there was no way any judge was going to care. His time as we all know came soon enough anyway. I always thought his 1999 showing and conditioning never got enough props. But no one cared; it was the halcyon days of wheeler/coleman/cormier, with a withering levrone, el sonbaty and ray thrown in for good measure.

I liken it to how Dexter Jackson should have placed higher earlier on in his career, but those were the days of “pay your dues”. Whatever that’s worth.


Thanks for the trip down memory lane joswift!

99 Olympia was Dexter's debut as well and his fellow pros commented on Dex making the rookie mistake of not using enough oil and not looking as sharp as he really was, Dex placed 9th and Jay 15th out of 16!

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Re: Derek Lunsford 9 weeks out
« Reply #40 on: Today at 05:12:46 AM »
Tattoo wasn't on his forearm it was on his knuckles and I think Dorian removed it on his own accord. The premise was he was handpicked to become Mr Olympia to sell more magazines in the UK?  ??? It's defies logic. So many more marketable guys in the US to entertain that line of thinking

What Weider said was if kevin shawn or flex won it made nondifference to him because he made the same amount of money but dorian winning opened up the overseas markets. Something to that effect. Maybe because dorian was white? As opposed to british...

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Re: Derek Lunsford 9 weeks out
« Reply #41 on: Today at 05:15:34 AM »
his quad as well. based on the widespread nature of it, its likely neural adaptation and poor recruitment. his arm is also smaller.

Everyone has a stronger side nobody has a perfectly symetrical body.

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Re: Derek Lunsford 9 weeks out
« Reply #42 on: Today at 05:23:30 AM »
That's silly like the British market was going to yield so much revenue from magazines , Especially considering the US was the mecca for bodybuilding and it was niche market and even more so in the UK. It defies logic , Shawn Ray was on more magazine covers than Dorian by far. If Joe Weider was going to hand pick people to win he's be an idiot not to pick Lee Labrada, Handsome , articulate , College educated married family man with an " attainable " physique much more marketable than a pasty Brit who was a  " skinhead " and disappeared back to the UK after every contest.

Dorian was a breath of fresh air in the Bodybuilding Scene .. he was massive, unique compared to the standard yank ..rags to Glory story.
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Re: Derek Lunsford 9 weeks out
« Reply #43 on: Today at 05:27:01 AM »
Mr Olympia 2023


Albert Beckles 1985


In 1985 Olympia Beckles almost beat Haney, he took 2nd but many people had him winning on prejudging based on condition  (I heard)
Thats beyond impressive ...if he really was born in 1930.



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Re: Derek Lunsford 9 weeks out
« Reply #44 on: Today at 05:31:03 AM »
Tattoo wasn't on his forearm it was on his knuckles and I think Dorian removed it on his own accord. The premise was he was handpicked to become Mr Olympia to sell more magazines in the UK?  ??? It's defies logic. So many more marketable guys in the US to entertain that line of thinking
Not all Skins were racist & i´ve never seen a picture of tattoos on his knuckles, if he did it would´ve been four dots ..meaning "the pigs are Bastards" this was a tattoo ( home made indian ink) i saw often in the 70s & early 80s
His Tattoos were a British Bulldog & UK flag & a Doc Martin Boot, which a lot of guys wore myself included or Monkey Boots.

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Re: Derek Lunsford 9 weeks out
« Reply #45 on: Today at 06:10:08 AM »
99 Olympia was Dexter's debut as well and his fellow pros commented on Dex making the rookie mistake of not using enough oil and not looking as sharp as he really was, Dex placed 9th and Jay 15th out of 16!
What the hell? Dex had calves at one point? They were totally gone later in his career

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Re: Derek Lunsford 9 weeks out
« Reply #46 on: Today at 06:21:09 AM »
Dorian was a breath of fresh air in the Bodybuilding Scene .. he was massive, unique compared to the standard yank ..rags to Glory story.
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 ??? I was making a point if people were handpicked to sell magazines Weider would've had more marketable people to hand pick. I don't have a problem with Dorian beating anyone.  ???

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Not all Skins were racist & i´ve never seen a picture of tattoos on his knuckles, if he did it would´ve been four dots ..meaning "the pigs are Bastards" this was a tattoo ( home made indian ink) i saw often in the 70s & early 80s
His Tattoos were a British Bulldog & UK flag & a Doc Martin Boot, which a lot of guys wore myself included or Monkey Boots.

I know this, in the picture I posted it shows the word SKIN on his knuckles not sure if you could see it.

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Re: Derek Lunsford 9 weeks out
« Reply #47 on: Today at 06:22:50 AM »
his arms are pitiful for a Mr Olympia; 2nd worst of all time behind Dorian's :-\


Hes so overated. Shit arms, shit chest. By contest time, the legs will come down in size and be overpowered by his upper body. He's got a great back. Cool. His BDB isnt even dominating. I think  Walker's is better when you take into account Nick's hamstrings. His abs are weak and shallow too. Thats why he always hit a vac in the ab and thighs pose. Whats the fascination with him? He has a smaller waist? Its not even crazy small. It was when he was a 212 guy but the size he put on for Open grew it quite a bit. I'd rather Samson win the Olympia since hes not a midget. Or if youre going the munchkin route, give it to a freak like Walker

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Re: Derek Lunsford 9 weeks out
« Reply #48 on: Today at 06:26:58 AM »
What the hell? Dex had calves at one point? They were totally gone later in his career

No. His calves were full of oil.

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Re: Derek Lunsford 9 weeks out
« Reply #49 on: Today at 06:32:33 AM »
Derrick injects oil in his lumpy lats

He is so dumb he I jexted oil into his lil dick to