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Working out and Ozempic
« on: August 10, 2025, 02:59:19 PM »
I realize I've never read anything (even here that I can recall) about people who work out with weights and take Ozempic or those weight  loss semiglutides/GLP1s or whatever called.  I hear people are losing lots of weight, sure, because it craters appetite.  But I haven't seen anything about people taking this and working out and how that affects them.  Cutting out the slop is one thing, but just not eating much is another. I'd assume strength is plummeting because strength follows weight to a good degree, also similarly losing lots of muscle mass.

Maybe the reason I don't hear is because people who work out aren't doing much of this and do it the old fashioned way knowing what will happen.

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Re: Working out and Ozempic
« Reply #1 on: August 10, 2025, 04:30:36 PM »
I think it just requires a lot of mental effort that many don’t have after long stressful days with responsibilities and worries pulling them in all directions. It’s easier when you’re younger I think.

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Re: Working out and Ozempic
« Reply #2 on: August 10, 2025, 05:23:17 PM »
Eating too many carbs turns you into a Furtado.

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Re: Working out and Ozempic
« Reply #3 on: August 10, 2025, 07:04:17 PM »
I've been on it for about 9 months now. Currently at 1.7mg.

My circumstances were similar to yours. Long stressful days which make proper dieting impossible. In addition I had heavy food noise, conflicts at work make me want to eat.

My job is my #1 priority, and I will probably get shit for this but I am in the top 2% in the UK amongst people who pay employment tax. The goal was to lose weight and get healthier without any compromise in executive functioning. In this sema treatment was successful and it also (largely) turned off food noise.

Starting body fat > 20%. Right now ~12%. 41 years old. No AAS (ever). Yes, I lost muscle and strength but this is because I was simply not training enough, not due to some semaglutide side effect. I lost the same amount of muscle as I had dieting in the past without semaglutide and little weight lifting.

There is a lot more, side effects, energy levels, etc... If you want to know, ask.


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Re: Working out and Ozempic
« Reply #4 on: August 10, 2025, 08:47:50 PM »
I've been on it for about 9 months now. Currently at 1.7mg.

My circumstances were similar to yours. Long stressful days which make proper dieting impossible. In addition I had heavy food noise, conflicts at work make me want to eat.

My job is my #1 priority, and I will probably get shit for this but I am in the top 2% in the UK amongst people who pay employment tax. The goal was to lose weight and get healthier without any compromise in executive functioning. In this sema treatment was successful and it also (largely) turned off food noise.

Starting body fat > 20%. Right now ~12%. 41 years old. No AAS (ever). Yes, I lost muscle and strength but this is because I was simply not training enough, not due to some semaglutide side effect. I lost the same amount of muscle as I had dieting in the past without semaglutide and little weight lifting.

There is a lot more, side effects, energy levels, etc... If you want to know, ask.

Thanks for the reply, not something I'm really considering, but I would be interested in seeing what it's like without food noise.  On the other hand, I do consider good tasty food one of the great pleasures in life and going around a bit "averse" to food doesn't sound enjoyable.

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Re: Working out and Ozempic
« Reply #5 on: August 10, 2025, 09:08:01 PM »
Eating too many carbs turns into a Furtado.
yea I agree she’s now fartado

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Re: Working out and Ozempic
« Reply #6 on: August 11, 2025, 08:14:53 PM »

There is a lot more, side effects, energy levels, etc... If you want to know, ask.

I'd be curious about the sides and energy levels. I have a mate who is mid 50s and a good 50kg heavier than he should be. He's a big bloke over 6 ft so 50kg at that height is obviously different than if he were 5'7 or something, for perspective. He works as a tradie (building houses) and despite his size, keeps pace with blokes half his age - he also works longer hours than most. Whilst he doesnt exercise per se hes very active. His downfall is lack of time to do much at all outside of work, but he does like the odd few beers after knock off each day and obviously eats a lot more than he should.

SO he'd unlikely be able to find time to expend more calories, nor would he need to if his appetite were more under control, but I suspect he'd still hit the drink regularly. any idea how the two might interact, and secondarily - given his active work life and the necessity to keep up said pace, what will it likely do to his ability to work long hours of moderate-hard physical labour?

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Re: Working out and Ozempic
« Reply #7 on: August 12, 2025, 12:11:24 AM »
Don't take any drug that hasn't been around for at least a decade.

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Re: Working out and Ozempic
« Reply #8 on: August 12, 2025, 07:09:01 AM »
Don't take any drug that hasn't been around for at least a decade.

I believe these drugs have been around for at least a decade. They were previously used with diabetes. Not brand brand new.

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« Reply #9 on: August 12, 2025, 08:13:10 AM »
I believe these drugs have been around for at least a decade. They were previously used with diabetes. Not brand brand new.
6 years for diabetes and 4 years for weight loss.

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Re: Working out and Ozempic
« Reply #10 on: August 12, 2025, 02:20:40 PM »
I'd be curious about the sides and energy levels. I have a mate who is mid 50s and a good 50kg heavier than he should be. He's a big bloke over 6 ft so 50kg at that height is obviously different than if he were 5'7 or something, for perspective. He works as a tradie (building houses) and despite his size, keeps pace with blokes half his age - he also works longer hours than most. Whilst he doesnt exercise per se hes very active. His downfall is lack of time to do much at all outside of work, but he does like the odd few beers after knock off each day and obviously eats a lot more than he should.

SO he'd unlikely be able to find time to expend more calories, nor would he need to if his appetite were more under control, but I suspect he'd still hit the drink regularly. any idea how the two might interact, and secondarily - given his active work life and the necessity to keep up said pace, what will it likely do to his ability to work long hours of moderate-hard physical labour?

Beer raises estrogen levels which causes fat gain.

It's also high in carbs and leads to increase in intra-abdomial fat and fatty liver disease.

Much better to have a shot or two of hard liquor straight up as it has hardly any carbs.

A simple way to have your friend reduce his bodyfat is to drop carbs way down (no bread or grains) and increase fat intake (eat fatty meats, cheese, butter).

This will also be very satisfying and he won't have hunger pangs.

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Re: Working out and Ozempic
« Reply #11 on: August 12, 2025, 03:24:23 PM »
They say the weight lost is like almost half muscle in people who don't lift. This really should be taken with PEDs IMO. Many of you probably saw about the trials of Ozempic stacked with myostatin inhibitors. Muscle actually went up, but the sides might be bad, hard to tell yet. We know what low dose steroids do, relatively benign. Say 200mg of test a week. In forced bed rest on catabolic thyroid meds 200mg Test added 2kg of muscle in about 3 or 4 weeks, where the control group lost muscle.

Look at Retatrutide as a better alternative, it's the rage among "PED influencers" right now.

Speaking of fat loss. I had an extremely dramatic fat loss recently without trying. I had lost weight involuntarily in recent months. Just came home from the hospital after having my gallbladder removed. Now I naturally sit at >20% BF. Imagine my shock at the hospital when they tell me they can't give me subcutaneous injections in the belly because there's no fat there, they had to shoot in my thigh! :o Never in my wildest dreams did I imagine a situation like this, I would've assumed getting to this bodyfat would take a year of hard deprivation dieting. Appetite has been down but I've consciously drank sugar sodas, like 10+ cans a day, and as much fat as I could tolerate. And obviously protein, lots of RTDs throughout the day. A couple of cooked meals, again as fatty and unhealthy as possible.

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Re: Working out and Ozempic
« Reply #12 on: August 12, 2025, 03:51:25 PM »
Beer raises estrogen levels which causes fat gain.

It's also high in carbs and leads to increase in intra-abdomial fat and fatty liver disease.

Much better to have a shot or two of hard liquor straight up as it has hardly any carbs.

A simple way to have your friend reduce his bodyfat is to drop carbs way down (no bread or grains) and increase fat intake (eat fatty meats, cheese, butter).

This will also be very satisfying and he won't have hunger pangs.

Appreciate the reply.. Def agree on the alcohol issue, I don't drink myself so any influence I could have is already in effect but nullified. He's a very well liked bloke and no shortage of fellas that will have a beer or four with him after work. Good on the one hand, but not so much his health.

They say the weight lost is like almost half muscle in people who don't lift. This really should be taken with PEDs IMO. Many of you probably saw about the trials of Ozempic stacked with myostatin inhibitors. Muscle actually went up, but the sides might be bad, hard to tell yet. We know what low dose steroids do, relatively benign. Say 200mg of test a week. In forced bed rest on catabolic thyroid meds 200mg Test added 2kg of muscle in about 3 or 4 weeks, where the control group lost muscle.

Look at Retatrutide as a better alternative, it's the rage among "PED influencers" right now.

Speaking of fat loss. I had an extremely dramatic fat loss recently without trying. I had lost weight involuntarily in recent months. Just came home from the hospital after having my gallbladder removed. Now I naturally sit at >20% BF. Imagine my shock at the hospital when they tell me they can't give me subcutaneous injections in the belly because there's no fat there, they had to shoot in my thigh! :o Never in my wildest dreams did I imagine a situation like this, I would've assumed getting to this bodyfat would take a year of hard deprivation dieting. Appetite has been down but I've consciously drank sugar sodas, like 10+ cans a day, and as much fat as I could tolerate. And obviously protein, lots of RTDs throughout the day. A couple of cooked meals, again as fatty and unhealthy as possible.

I doubt I could get him on board with PED stuff. HE knows I've used gear when I was younger and have started what is legit greater than TRT doses (600mg currently) and introducing GH for the first time ever (shy of once or twice for an injury) because I'm very soon undergoing a full shoulder reco (thought it was just the supraspinatus on both sides completely snapped and partial tears to the rest, but last MRI showed infraspinatus snapped too and subscapularis hanging by a thread on the right hand side - if this goes at all well, and I'm maximising potential outcome with test, gh and immediately post surgery the bpc157/tb500 combo - based on advice I got here some months back, and maybe a low dose nandrolone - 50-100mg week). Point being he knows what I'm up to and that I measure twice cut once as far as dosages and new pharmaceuticals etc, and do as mcuh learning as I can - I'm no rocket scientist - but given what I've said about potential with TRT he's just not even remotely near a point of trying it.His call to be fair. Ironically the Ozempic, which I'd argue is at least as much cause for concern potentially, he seems less resistant to. If I was to guess I'd say its social stigma. Sometimes I forget that outside of lifters, people currently in their 50s or older see PEDs very differently. (I even got the 'doesn't it make your dick smaller?' question). To that end - I'll do some reading on Retatrutide and see if I can present it as a better option.

thankyou for the reply

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Re: Working out and Ozempic
« Reply #13 on: August 12, 2025, 03:58:17 PM »
The sarcopenia is due to rapid weight loss. Over time energy levels should increase as nutrient partitioning improves (there are some preliminary studies on fibro and cfs for example).

it should not effect weight training. If you wanted more specific fat loss tirzepatide would be much better as the GIP action increases hormone sensitive lipase in adipocytes and causes direct beta oxidation and fat loss. In the head to head studies there was more fat loss and less muscle when compared to semaglutide.


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Re: Working out and Ozempic
« Reply #14 on: August 13, 2025, 02:21:22 AM »


I doubt I could get him on board with PED stuff.

Yeah I know, wouldn't want to try to 'force' someone like that either. I think in the US many "clinics" pair GLP-1 drugs with "HRT " I also read that gym chains sell paired gym memberships with Ozempic consult as package deal. Which isn't scamming anyone IMO, but I'd bet some gyms add a hormone panel on top so they can sell some anabolics too ;) The GLP drugs aren't innocuous either, like we have the pancreatitis risk which is a very serious thing which I know very well personally. But they just figure if a doc writes a script it must be generally safe.


If you wanted more specific fat loss tirzepatide would be much better as the GIP action increases hormone sensitive lipase in adipocytes and causes direct beta oxidation and fat loss. In the head to head studies there was more fat loss and less muscle when compared to semaglutide.



My bro is getting 2 10mg bottles of this. He weighs like 280lbs and claims to eat 1800 cals a day. I told him he would lose weight automatically, no need to count calories, which he's absolute shit at doing obviously. Fucking guy is 61 and been lifting since his early teens, juicing almost as long, but he still can't even estimate calories. I told him that by my estimation he is taking in 5-6K cals most days. He got all mad, "I'm not fucking dumb!" Yes, yes you are; I didn't tell him that, just dropped it before we ended our friendship :D I would get on Reta or even Tirza for some of the "health benefits" at microdose but the pancreatitis is worrisome, it's almost damn near killed me or at least feels that way.

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Re: Working out and Ozempic
« Reply #15 on: August 13, 2025, 12:35:00 PM »
I'd be curious about the sides and energy levels. I have a mate who is mid 50s and a good 50kg heavier than he should be. He's a big bloke over 6 ft so 50kg at that height is obviously different than if he were 5'7 or something, for perspective. He works as a tradie (building houses) and despite his size, keeps pace with blokes half his age - he also works longer hours than most. Whilst he doesnt exercise per se hes very active. His downfall is lack of time to do much at all outside of work, but he does like the odd few beers after knock off each day and obviously eats a lot more than he should.

SO he'd unlikely be able to find time to expend more calories, nor would he need to if his appetite were more under control, but I suspect he'd still hit the drink regularly. any idea how the two might interact, and secondarily - given his active work life and the necessity to keep up said pace, what will it likely do to his ability to work long hours of moderate-hard physical labour?

Asking for a friend?  :D

The most severe and disgusting side effect for me is the stomach gas. Since GLP-1 slows down the passage of food through the digestive system any food that is already there will stay for much, much longer. I had already eaten a large chicken breast with some vegetables and hummus before taking the first shot... The next morning (10 hours later) I had severe burping and I could still taste the chicken, it felt like very little of it was digested.

At its worst when digestion is very slow stomach gas will build up and the burps will get stronger and have a very unpleasant, rotten eggs taste to them. The smell is terrible too, like farting from the mouth. The first time this happened I was burping for about an hour and not getting better and it felt like I had a rock in my stomach. Eventually the pressure got so bad I projectile vomited and just about made it to the bathroom (nice). I immediately felt better.

Needless to say after something like that, the food noise all but disappears and food in general becomes a disgusting concept. So for the first couple of months I could eat very small quantities. I think I've had one such episode in the last two or three months so it goes away. You just can't eat much, you'll pay for it. After a while you don't want to, many times a light meal left me feeling like I had just been to McDonalds.

Other sides is the diarrhea which follows such a throw up and it is nasty in a special way... I won't go into details. Once I had a severe stomach pain in the early hours that was so bad I felt like calling an ambulance. Like somebody was tearing me up inside.

Anyway, the pounds started coming off without any particular effort, just eating small amounts, usually protein, so I was free to focus on my job.

I know someone else who took semaglutide and they had none of the above, but their hair starting falling out at a much higher rate. This seems to be reversible after stopping.

Regarding energy levels they were ok, obviously lower since less calories are taken in. Not as bad as a PSMF with protein that was my standard diet. What I noticed immediately was:

1. The mood swings I used to get disappeared and crankiness was generally absent
2. It felt like somehow my blood sugar was not falling at too low levels, so the above was a side effect of that.
3. My sleep was not disrupted at all, as it would have been the case dieting without semaglutide.

I am sedentary, so not sure how it would affect someone as active as a builder. I imagine a priority for your friend is to be able to keep up with the young 'uns. I can't help much with that. If he wants to try it I would recommend taking it right before a bank holiday weekend, that way he can assess symptoms without having to find out on the job.

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Re: Working out and Ozempic
« Reply #16 on: August 13, 2025, 05:01:34 PM »
Asking for a friend?  :D

You know I actually suspected it may come across like tha!. I'm not in great shape right now, maybe need to drop half what he does, a little less with each passig week, mostly due to what I can and can't do training wise (and I won't lie it has lead to a sort of malaise) since I fucked both shoulders, and the fact I've been working up to 80+ hours per week. to be fair that's recently changed as I'm shortlisted for surgery, and I've made a conscious effort to try and get in the best possible position physically and biochemically just prior to going under the knife (wanted to work out what my body is ok with before the fact, GH and peptides are mostly new ground for me, regular test - old school gear not so much). I can't say I love it but i can get there without appetite suppressants and diabetes meds. I'm not in the sort of shape that some of the guys that do circuit training and advanced cardio list in the training thread but I can easily pass the cardiologist treadmill stress test and still be talking to the testers at the last level (it's not hard by athlete standards mind you)

I appreciate your extended comments about gastrointestinal distress as that would be problematic for my mate, due to work

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Re: Working out and Ozempic
« Reply #17 on: August 13, 2025, 05:25:59 PM »
Sounds like Bhanks may have gotten both the black bile throw up and the hair loss.

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Re: Working out and Ozempic
« Reply #18 on: August 13, 2025, 05:29:13 PM »

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Re: Working out and Ozempic
« Reply #19 on: August 14, 2025, 03:00:27 AM »
Too lazy to look up the dosages now, but last time I read professionalmuscle some of the posters were microdosing the GLP-1s, saying the prescribed dosages were too high. Of course Retatrutide is by far the favorite for bodybuilding application, for positive health effects like improving insulin sensitivity. Sometimes bodybuilder are the conservative ones in the room. Other meds could be added at low doses to fill in the gaps, boost the effects without sides and so on.

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Re: Working out and Ozempic
« Reply #20 on: August 14, 2025, 04:51:58 AM »
Don't take any drug that hasn't been around for at least a decade.

I'm also wary of this. Same reason i never tried any of those pro hormones or designer type compounds that came the last 10/15 years.

Quite impressed with @Raymondo 's progress, however, especially since he hasn't done AAS and got great fat loss results whilst dieting. Im of similar age, so my genes are starting to do their thing, finally. Oh well

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« Reply #21 on: August 14, 2025, 12:58:57 PM »
Yeah I know, wouldn't want to try to 'force' someone like that either. I think in the US many "clinics" pair GLP-1 drugs with "HRT " I also read that gym chains sell paired gym memberships with Ozempic consult as package deal. Which isn't scamming anyone IMO, but I'd bet some gyms add a hormone panel on top so they can sell some anabolics too ;) The GLP drugs aren't innocuous either, like we have the pancreatitis risk which is a very serious thing which I know very well personally. But they just figure if a doc writes a script it must be generally safe.

My bro is getting 2 10mg bottles of this. He weighs like 280lbs and claims to eat 1800 cals a day. I told him he would lose weight automatically, no need to count calories, which he's absolute shit at doing obviously. Fucking guy is 61 and been lifting since his early teens, juicing almost as long, but he still can't even estimate calories. I told him that by my estimation he is taking in 5-6K cals most days. He got all mad, "I'm not fucking dumb!" Yes, yes you are; I didn't tell him that, just dropped it before we ended our friendship :D I would get on Reta or even Tirza for some of the "health benefits" at microdose but the pancreatitis is worrisome, it's almost damn near killed me or at least feels that way.

ya the benefits are pretty staggering tbh. reta is pretty amazing and by far the best of the bunch so far. How hard is it to mix up?

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Re: Working out and Ozempic
« Reply #22 on: August 14, 2025, 01:00:39 PM »
Doesn’t sound common, but blindness is a side effect. https://ritms.rutgers.edu/news/scientists-explain-ozempic-blindness-link-between-sudden-vision-loss-and-weight-loss-drugs/

it works out to be like 3 extra persons per 100k, it appears to be related to rapid drops in hba1c

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« Reply #23 on: August 14, 2025, 01:12:21 PM »
I'm also wary of this. Same reason i never tried any of those pro hormones or designer type compounds that came the last 10/15 years.

Yes they weren't tested much or at all in humans but the compounds were desscribed and their anabolic/androgenic indices based on animal testing were known. Supp companies were hunting down copies of a book by one Julius Vida.

ya the benefits are pretty staggering tbh. reta is pretty amazing and by far the best of the bunch so far. How hard is it to mix up?

How do you mean? I haven't looked up prices but the Chinese copies seem plentiful. The Euro lab testing all sorts of compounds said they had 30 tests a day for glp-1 drugs, and it's mostly relabeling UG "labs" doing the testing, this was maybe a year ago or more.

Have you looked at the myostatin and actin (?) inhibitor drugs which have been tested with Ozempic now? What's your opinion on them? Dangerous?

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Re: Working out and Ozempic
« Reply #24 on: August 16, 2025, 07:33:27 PM »
My training partner swears  by selegiline combined with phenylethylamine, he says you don't  get hungry and your energy levels through the roof all day long. The two have a synergistic effect and don't work standalone, needs to be combined.