Had my testosterone checked and it was just under 900. Is that good or terrible?

[BigRo]

Must take 20 minutes to write all that.

[Van_Bilderass]

I think you need to get out more

I really do, you couldn't imagine. It's midnight, going to the gym now

[joswift]

I really do, you couldn't imagine. It's midnight, going to the gym now

 

[dj181]

Everything is relative, many say no one should ever take any oral steroids period, lots of pros say it was a mistake to ever take orals and they would never do so again. "No good reason for orals ever, every oral can be perfectly mimicked with an injectable." I don't think they are good or bad, it all depends on risk tolerance and what you're using it for.

Even if a steroid affected "aesthetics" minimally, the effect is completely temporary. You think Flex Wheeler would have lost his aesthetics if some year he didn't have Durabolin or whatever he liked best for his look? You can change the minute cosmetic effects within hours, if you're watery, take half a Dyazide and 4 hours later you have pissed out any excess water. Back in the day some said Masteron could visually make you harder and grainier within hours of taking a shot if in contest shape LOL. Absolutely no one lost any aesthetics due to some Masteron and the claimed improvement was also way exaggerated.
I've never once heard anyone else claim Mast made them look "awful" 
Like I said, in the early-mid 90s pros used steroids according to what was available, one year they may have used Andriol caps and thought they were a great last minute hardener (e.g. Milos), next year the dealer had Proviron instead. Next time it was Halo.  One year they ran Winstrol for an oral last weeks, next it was Anavar. The top guys still consistently delivered spectacular looks every time. Even today, with absolutely everything available always, competitors switch their stacks around every prep. Most don't give enough of a fuck, the coach probably has to be on their ass to get the right products, most "know" nothing and don't care.  If something makes you "flat," just drink a couple of glasses of water with a bouillon cube, easy remedy. One coach says if someone has become watery at a show, take a little Humalog and some salt and 10 minutes later the water is sucked back in

Take some pics in the exact same spot and light before and after the Deca so we can see if there is a drastic difference. BTW, Deca is so yesterday (only half serious), take NPP instead so you have more control and don't have to wait around for levels to reach steady-state

I know, you have said it for the longest time. I'm not completely retarded

I'm mostly having a convo with myself, we are not changing anyone. I'm not any kind of writer but I just saw Tucker Carlson and his guest say something to the effect of, "if you haven't written about it, you haven't really thought about it;" which I took to mean typing about something might help my thought process. I need all the help I can get

I don't feel like taking the time to look up my mast photos here

But go to my post "really digging the deca" 😉

Even bigmc himself at the very end of that thread said.... this is the best you ever looked

[dj181]

Here ya go

I would never ever look like this o mast

never

https://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=610811.0

[dj181]

Like Broderick Chavez said


Deca is a VOLUMiZER


It sure az hell is for me

[joswift]

Like Broderick Chavez said


Deca is a VOLUMiZER


It sure az hell is for me

Be careful you dont get "deca dick" ....oh hang on, you already have it without deca.

[wes]

Dick shelf   

[dj181]

So, after you save the pack of baby lions, and finish your week long torturing of george soros, you will be talking to a fat chick in real life and someone else will call her fat and you will spring to action.

Got it.

I wish I was Mr Kevin Richardson

I would gladly give up steroids and training to have his life

I absolutely love meggy, niege, and Gabby

They would be 3 perfect gf

[CalvinH]

I would not interact with a fat chick

You don't interact with any chicks.

[dj181]

You don't interact with any chicks.

Wrong

Rapped with one bout 3 weeks ago in my gym and it went very well tbh😉

[Notomorrow]

     High natural testosterone is likely for former steroid users if they wait long enough to recover. Most declare "permanent shutdown" after 6 months to a year, but the truth is that LH and FSH rise dramatically in response to low testosterone.  If you look at the LH and FSH of men over 75, whether former steroid users or not, they usually have very high LH and FSH. They have low testosterone from the actual aging of the leydig cells in the testes, which no longer respond to LH and FSH. If a young man had the LH and FSH of an 75 year old man, he'd have very high test.

The rise in FSH and LH with increasing age is consistent with the decline in testosterone, assuming normal operation of the feedback pathway by which low testosterone level signals the hypothalamic-pituitary axis to release FSH and LH(https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3073592/)

     That being said, whether 900 is "good" or not, it's fantastic for healthy aging but horrible for competitive bodybuilding because it's too high for any doctor to prescribe testosterone or anabolics, but too low for noticeable muscle gain above what you would have at say 700.

     

[dj181]

Spot on post

According to dirt GAYvens you need at least 1400 total t for anabolism

[Rambone]

     High natural testosterone is likely for former steroid users if they wait long enough to recover. Most declare "permanent shutdown" after 6 months to a year, but the truth is that LH and FSH rise dramatically in response to low testosterone.  If you look at the LH and FSH of men over 75, whether former steroid users or not, they usually have very high LH and FSH. They have low testosterone from the actual aging of the leydig cells in the testes, which no longer respond to LH and FSH. If a young man had the LH and FSH of an 75 year old man, he'd have very high test.

The rise in FSH and LH with increasing age is consistent with the decline in testosterone, assuming normal operation of the feedback pathway by which low testosterone level signals the hypothalamic-pituitary axis to release FSH and LH(https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3073592/)

     That being said, whether 900 is "good" or not, it's fantastic for healthy aging but horrible for competitive bodybuilding because it's too high for any doctor to prescribe testosterone or anabolics, but too low for noticeable muscle gain above what you would have at say 700.

   

TRT clinics will prescribe if your free T is on the lower end of the range and you have low T symptoms. “Want to be optimized?” is the pitch

[CalvinH]

Wrong

Rapped with one bout 3 weeks ago in my gym and it went very well tbh😉

3 weeks ago

[delon]

Dj even documented this momentous 8 minute conversation in a post

Well just had an 8 or so minute talk with a blonde here in my gym she was very pretty and her make was Diana same name as my mom

She was named after princess Di after she passed so she would be 27-28

Just a tad too old for me but she was a pretty woman and quite cool😎

[Never1AShow]

Dj even documented this momentous 8 minute conversation in a post

25 days ago, so about 2.25 minutes a week, at that rate he'd have under 2 hours actual female conversation per year

[Lartinos]

     High natural testosterone is likely for former steroid users if they wait long enough to recover. Most declare "permanent shutdown" after 6 months to a year, but the truth is that LH and FSH rise dramatically in response to low testosterone.  If you look at the LH and FSH of men over 75, whether former steroid users or not, they usually have very high LH and FSH. They have low testosterone from the actual aging of the leydig cells in the testes, which no longer respond to LH and FSH. If a young man had the LH and FSH of an 75 year old man, he'd have very high test.

The rise in FSH and LH with increasing age is consistent with the decline in testosterone, assuming normal operation of the feedback pathway by which low testosterone level signals the hypothalamic-pituitary axis to release FSH and LH(https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3073592/)

     That being said, whether 900 is "good" or not, it's fantastic for healthy aging but horrible for competitive bodybuilding because it's too high for any doctor to prescribe testosterone or anabolics, but too low for noticeable muscle gain above what you would have at say 700.

   

Many BB’s don’t have scripts or go to Bhank’s doc.

Also this statement is not always true. People on Reddit show this.
Those are elevated because testicular failure is happening and is not a guarantee.
“ If a young man had the LH and FSH of an 75 year old man, he'd have very ”

[Notomorrow]

Also this statement is not always true. People on Reddit show this.
Those are elevated because testicular failure is happening and is not a guarantee.
“ If a young man had the LH and FSH of an 75 year old man, he'd have very ”

Exactly, we're in agreement. The only reason someone would have "permanent shutdown" is because their testicles are not functioning, but FSH and LH will almost always be high if there is low testosterone. As long as one has functioning, healthy testes high FSH and LH should result in high testosterone, which is how HCG increases testosterone, by mimicking FSH and LH. A reasonable test to see if one had "permanent' shutdown is if HCG does not raise testosterone. This would mean the testes are not functioning.