URS and Quint BEASTWOOD batteling it out for 1st and 2nd in Germany !!

[MAXX]

I suppose so

I'm not being sarcastic, but I don't see obvious SEO abuse in Clint.  His arms and calves look okay.  Jimmied-up in those areas is pretty obvious; e.g., Dexter's calves in his first Olympia showings, or Nasser and his oil-filled arms and delts.

Where is Clinton abusing SEO?  Delts? 

I'm not necessarily disagreeing with you, Mike.  You're a good dude and know your shit.  I just don't see what you are seeing.

yes delts. Pretty obvious. Seems to me alot of the top guys seo their delts these days. Very common look.

maybe they use something else than SEO these days but it's not pure muscle.

[dj181]

Damn Bumstead lost all of his muscles and looks like a normal dude.

He looks 15 years younger in the after pic

[Van_Bilderass]

I suppose so

I'm not being sarcastic, but I don't see obvious SEO abuse in Clint.  His arms and calves look okay.  Jimmied-up in those areas is pretty obvious; e.g., Dexter's calves in his first Olympia showings, or Nasser and his oil-filled arms and delts.

Where is Clinton abusing SEO?  Delts? 

I'm not necessarily disagreeing with you, Mike.  You're a good dude and know your shit.  I just don't see what you are seeing.

I didn't look at any pics of this Clint fella but you can be almost 100% any pro is oiling his side and rear delts. It's become a requirement to have an inch shelf of extra scar tissue there. No one had these "rear delts" a few decades ago.

yes delts. Pretty obvious. Seems to me alot of the top guys seo their delts these days. Very common look.

maybe they use something else than SEO these days but it's not pure muscle.

One product somewhat popular

"Mediphorm is a brand of concentrated, hyaluronic acid-based product used for muscle site enhancement in bodybuilding. It is injected directly into a muscle, where it attracts fluid to temporarily increase its volume and provide a fuller, rounder appearance. Unlike oil-based products, Mediphorm is self-dispersing, water-based, and does not form lasting lumps. It requires precise application and is intended for temporary, localized results."

[Methyl m1ke]

I suppose so

I'm not being sarcastic, but I don't see obvious SEO abuse in Clint.  His arms and calves look okay.  Jimmied-up in those areas is pretty obvious; e.g., Dexter's calves in his first Olympia showings, or Nasser and his oil-filled arms and delts.

Where is Clinton abusing SEO?  Delts? 

I'm not necessarily disagreeing with you, Mike.  You're a good dude and know your shit.  I just don't see what you are seeing.

His shoulders are the most obvious. When you diet down your muscles should have striations and a grainy appearance. Look at his body, now compare to say lee haney or yates.

Basically most of these guys load their major muscle groups with SEO and tons of food and insulin. They deflate when they diet down or come off. The smoothness that you see is from staying on gear till the show to keep "full" and the only reason, the ONLY REASON our sport is being fucked is because of corruption. The guy who sells seo own promuscle, and likely pays the judges to place oil abusers high. Ifbb rules dictate seo users get marked down but its not happening.now you nnow why.

[Van_Bilderass]

The guy who sells seo own promuscle, and likely pays the judges to place oil abusers high. Ifbb rules dictate seo users get marked down but its not happening.now you nnow why.

I doubt any paying off of judges, it's just become so prevalent you'd have to mark down everyone and then they could say, "prove it!" Bostin Loyd's oils seem to still be popular, saw one pro on that forum saying he uses one of these in certain muscles before each workout Does Ariela profit?

[Titus Pullo]

His shoulders are the most obvious. When you diet down your muscles should have striations and a grainy appearance. Look at his body, now compare to say lee haney or yates.

Yeah, you got me there, man.  I guess I've seen so many jimmied-up delts that I've almost become numb to it

[balzac]

is this still used ?

[joswift]

is this still used ?

dont think its available anymore

You can get the same result shallow injecting propionate

Guy I used to know years ago used to do his delts the day before he went clubbing

[Van_Bilderass]

dont think its available anymore

You can get the same result shallow injecting propionate

Guy I used to know years ago used to do his delts the day before he went clubbing

Winstrol in oil has the same effect on me, better than prop. Half an inch extra thickness maybe, do several shots so it's not just in one part of the delt.

Someone could easily make a Chinese copy of Esiclene. I suspect no one wants to pay the initial cost of the first batch synthesis, or they don't think it will sell any. And it wouldn't I don't think.

I think Mediphorm is making a killing from their product, ingredients probably cost next to nothing. Same with Synthol, it's basically just MCT oil.