Which sport is least about genetic and which is most about genetics?

[unwieldy]

And where does bodybuilding fall in that range?

[BigRo]

YOUR a fat prod who prefers to just eat and nap in his free time, why do you care?

[Raymondo]

YOUR a fat prod who prefers to just eat and nap in his free time, why do you care?

A bit harsh, isn't it big man?

[Stephano]

And where does bodybuilding fall in that range?

Bodybuilding is about genetic response to drugs + tolerance of drug overdoses without suffering from major health issues.  Offhand, I'd say it's 80% genetic, 20% diet. 

Certain sports rely almost completely on genetic factors like muscle fiber type abundance, oxygen utilization, lactic acid production/tolerance, tendon length, etc.  Sprinting and competitive marathon running are both good examples of this.  If you're a generic white dude, you can get good, but you'll never be truly elite.

Skill-based sports like gymnastics, wrestling, and tennis -- these have the least to do with genetics.  Mostly just hard work and dedication over the years, from a very young age.  Some people will obviously be more talented than others, but you don't see meaningful ethnic/genetic patterns.

[BigRo]

A bit harsh, isn't it big man?

It's Getbig.

[joswift]

Bodybuilding is about genetic response to drugs + tolerance of drug overdoses without suffering from major health issues. 

Certain sports rely almost completely on genetic factors like muscle fiber type abundance, oxygen utilization, lactic acid production/tolerance, tendon length, etc.  Sprinting and competitive marathon running are both good examples of this. If you're a generic white dude, you can get good, but you'll never be truly elite.

Skill-based sports like gymnastics, wrestling, and tennis -- these have the least to do with genetics.  Mostly just hard work and dedication over the years, from a very young age.  Some people will obviously be more talented than others, but you don't see meaningful ethnic/genetic patterns.

why do blacks pretty much doninate sprinting and ultra long distances if its genetic?
Middle distance is pretty much a white dominated class.

Gymnastic athletes are seldom endomorphs, they are almost always ectomorphs or occasionally mesomorphs

why are almost all tennis players at the top level white?

[38 returns]

I think blacks are a mix of genetic response and lifestyle.

eg if you are a strong jamaican whose family lasted slavery and working the fields all day in heat you are likely to have a lot of strength

Kenyans- a lot live at altitude and have to run to get 'stuff' to survive.


I think basketball is genetic- if you are 5'4 you are stuffed. if you are born to be 7 foot you have a chance.



Tennis- is socially engineered, blacks were priced out of it and not allowed to partake.

Least genetic- darts surely, Its miilions of hours of constant practice and hard work to get good- its a 'skill'

[joswift]

I think blacks are a mix of genetic response and lifestyle.

eg if you are a strong jamaican whose family lasted slavery and working the fields all day in heat you are likely to have a lot of strength

Kenyans- a lot live at altitude and have to run to get 'stuff' to survive.


I think basketball is genetic- if you are 5'4 you are stuffed. if you are born to be 7 foot you have a chance.



Tennis- is socially engineered, blacks were priced out of it and not allowed to partake.

Least genetic- darts surely, Its miilions of hours of constant practice and hard work to get good- its a 'skill'

when slaves were brought back they picked the fattest ones not the muscular ones.
The fattest were more likley to survive the journey.

To this day black people in America carry the fat gene and are way more liklley to get obese.

Its self evident

darts is hand eye co-ordination, I was OK at darts at one point but I was not getting better regardless of how much I practiced, same with snooker,.

[38 returns]

I was referencing plantations in Jamaica and how such a small population as been able to do so well in athletics.

As for the fat gene in blacks isnt that all of america. Seriously, obesity is massive over there. The issue surely is give fatties access to cheap food and they will gorge on it.

[joswift]

I was referencing plantations in Jamaica and how such a small population as been able to do so well in athletics.

As for the fat gene in blacks isnt that all of america. Seriously, obesity is massive over there. The issue surely is give fatties access to cheap food and they will gorge on it.

Ah I see... Jamaicans have been pretty dominant in sprinting on people per capita of population thats true.

Agreed with the USA being greedy fucks but it is the case that they chose the fattest people to bring over

[38 returns]

thats true!


what has shocked me inthe USA and here is how obesity has become 'accepted'. Growing up people would get dogs abuse for being fat. Now its fucking protected. Bizarre. No pride left anymore sadly

[nobody in particular]

africans, ignoring the skin colour, actually have the most genetic diversity imaginable. There's so many distinct ethnic groups, and you can often as not tell by appearance esp the shape of the head, where they are from and stuff (not throwing shade here, it's obvious to anyone when you have seen enough people from certain regions), and naturally other featuress vary as well. so kenyans are good endurance athletes, no question, but not as many of them have massive natural ability at say powerlifting. and so on

[Kwon]

And where does bodybuilding fall in that range?

Basketball, genetics is important

There are outliers and unique cases but in general (some shorter ones have been successful) , height above 6'3 is preferred and beneficial.

Like King Callous Hands for example.


Bodybuilding, if you have shit genes, it doesnt matter how much PEDs you take, if your insertions are crap and symmetri is shit.

If your body doesn't respond to the Pudpad Vorawoot PEDs that well , pick another hobby.

[Kwon]

africans, ignoring the skin colour, actually have the most genetic diversity imaginable. There's so many distinct ethnic groups, and you can often as not tell by appearance esp the shape of the head, where they are from and stuff (not throwing shade here, it's obvious to anyone when you have seen enough people from certain regions), and naturally other featuress vary as well. so kenyans are good endurance athletes, no question, but not as many of them have massive natural ability at say powerlifting. and so on

That's because Africa is not just one country, but a continent of many countries. Just like Asians have quite the diversity as well.

Southeast Asians usually short and dumpy (and browner), but there have been quite tall people from Northern Asia and quite pale too.

[unwieldy]

YOUR a fat prod who prefers to just eat and nap in his free time, why do you care?

Check your estrogen levels, it's not normal for a man to be this upset about something trivial. Or don't, up to you.

[BigRo]

Check your estrogen levels, it's not normal for a man to be this upset about something trivial. Or don't, up to you.

My estrogen and everything else can be perfectly in balance and I could meditate for 3 years in a cave and I would still say the same thing, you said basically most Irish people are going to hell so fair game fatty, get to the gym.

[unwieldy]

My estrogen and everything else can be perfectly in balance and I could meditate for 3 years in a cave and I would still say the same thing, you said basically most Irish people are going to hell so fair game fatty, get to the gym.

You should be thanking me for giving you a headsup. Furthermore, if you believe I am wrong, why are you so upset? Perhaps you mistakingly believe that I am wishing for that. The reality is that there are likely up to a billion people in the world right now who believe Catholics are going to hell. No need to take it personally.

[dj181]

Least genetic=golf

Most genetic=100 meters

[unwieldy]

Least genetic=golf

Most genetic=100 meters

I felt the same about 100 meters being maybe higher than BB.

[BigRo]

You should be thanking me for giving you a headsup. Furthermore, if you believe I am wrong, why are you so upset? Perhaps you mistakingly believe that I am wishing for that. The reality is that there are likely up to a billion people in the world right now who believe Catholics are going to hell. No need to take it personally.

What do you think Jesus would say on the matter?

[falco]

And where does bodybuilding fall in that range?

Bodybuilding is not a sport.

[unwieldy]

What do you think Jesus would say on the matter?

Based on the gospels and letters by the disciples of Jesus, we can make an educated guess. Look into it.

[BigRo]

Based on the gospels and letters by the disciples of Jesus, we can make an educated guess. Look into it.

Back then there was no Prodestant, Catholic or Orthodox denominations.

"Let no man call you father for you have one father in heaven" might be a line from Jesus to support your case but then what is one to say..."pastor" as if it is not also a label of authority? And that's light compared to believing in hell as the fate of those who don't have the correct beliefs. Jesus said "when two or more gather in my name there I AM in thier midst" He did not say when two protestants gather but in his name which is the same as his presence which is the same as the non duel ground of Being permeating the cosmos, definitely lost you there.

[unwieldy]

Back then there was no Prodestant, Catholic or Orthodox denominations.

"Let no man call you father for you have one father in heaven" might be a line from Jesus to support your case but then what is one to say..."pastor" as if it is not also a label of authority? And that's light compared to believing in hell as the fate of those who don't have the correct beliefs. Jesus said "when two or more gather in my name there I AM in thier midst" He did not say when two protestants gather but in his name which is the same as his presence which is the same as the non duel ground of Being permeating the cosmos, definitely lost you there.

We can talk about it in more detail later. First thing I want to clear up is that I have no bad intentions against catholics. After all, nearly everyone I know is catholic. I guess it came across the wrong way to you through my posts.

[Stephano]

why do blacks pretty much doninate sprinting and ultra long distances if its genetic?
Middle distance is pretty much a white dominated class.

Gymnastic athletes are seldom endomorphs, they are almost always ectomorphs or occasionally mesomorphs

why are almost all tennis players at the top level white?

- Different black populations from different regions have different genetic characteristics.

- I'm talking about genetic group differences.  Individual factors like height and "ectomorph" status is too highly variable.

- Tennis is fucking expensive to participate in, and it requires a lot of parental involvement.  If you want to be good, you have to start very young, your parents have to drive you or fly you to competitions, you need a dedicated one-on-one coach, etc.  Hockey is much the same way.