“Snake Eyes” (1998, Nicolas Cage): Charles Kirkland Shot in Neck as Tyler Tricks

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Key Characters in the Assassination Scene

Charles Kirkland — U.S. Secretary of Defense

The assassination target. Kirkland is shot in the neck by a sniper during the boxing match, triggering the film’s central investigation.

He’s seated ringside, making him an easy target amid the chaos.

Lincoln Tyler — Heavyweight Boxer

Hired to take a dive in the fight to create a massive distraction at the exact moment of the assassination.

His staged fall draws all eyes to the ring, allowing the sniper to fire the fatal shot at Kirkland unnoticed.

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• Name Similarity: Charles Kirkland in Snake Eyes, Charlie Kirk in reality.
• Politician Status: Kirkland is U.S. Secretary of Defense in the film; Kirk is a right-wing activist.
• Date Overlap: Snake Eyes scoreboard shows September 10; Kirk was shot on September 10, 2025.
• Highly Public Shooting: Kirkland’s assassination occurs at a crowded boxing arena in the movie; Kirk’s shooting happens at a UVU campus event with thousands.
• Tyler Characters: Lincoln Tyler, a boxer tied to the conspiracy, and Tyler McNulty, Kirkland’s aide, in Snake Eyes; Tyler Robinson, Kirk’s shooter, in reality.
• Drag Scene and Lance Twiggs: In Snake Eyes, a man involved in the killing is in drag; in reality, Lance Twiggs, Robinson’s transgender boyfriend, turned over incriminating texts.
• Twiggsy Line: In Snake Eyes, a character says, “Hey, Twiggsy, you hiding bodies again?”; in reality, Lance Twiggs is linked to Kirk’s shooter.
• Israeli Connection: In Snake Eyes, the plot involves U.S. weapons transfers to Israel; Israel has been accused of being involved with Kirk’s shooting by many.

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Name Similarity: Charles Kirkland in Snake Eyes, Charlie Kirk in reality.

SO A DIFFERENT NAME

Politician Status: Kirkland is U.S. Secretary of Defense in the film; Kirk is a right-wing activist.

SO A DIFFERENT JOB

Date Overlap: Snake Eyes scoreboard shows September 10; Kirk was shot on September 10, 2025.

SO THE SAME CALENDAR DATE BUT 29 YEARS APART

Highly Public Shooting: Kirkland’s assassination occurs at a crowded boxing arena in the movie; Kirk’s shooting happens at a UVU campus event with thousands.

KIRKLANDS IS A FILM IN A SPORTING EVENT. KIRKS WAS IN REAL TIME AT A POLITICAL RALLY

Tyler Characters: Lincoln Tyler, a boxer tied to the conspiracy, and Tyler McNulty, Kirkland’s aide, in Snake Eyes; Tyler Robinson, Kirk’s shooter, in reality.

SO TWO MEN WITHOUT THE EXACT SAME NAMES WERE INVOLVED IN THE FILM

Drag Scene and Lance Twiggs: In Snake Eyes, a man involved in the killing is in drag; in reality, Lance Twiggs, Robinson’s transgender boyfriend, turned over incriminating texts.

ROBINSONS TRANSGENDER BOYFRIEND HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THE SHOOTING. SO WRONG


Twiggsy Line: In Snake Eyes, a character says, “Hey, Twiggsy, you hiding bodies again?”; in reality, Lance Twiggs is linked to Kirk’s shooter.

SO TWIGGS IS TWIGGSY ISNT. WRONG AGAIN. ALSO THAT WAS THE ALLEGED BOYFRIEND SO WHAT?

Israeli Connection: In Snake Eyes, the plot involves U.S. weapons transfers to Israel; Israel has been accused of being involved with Kirk’s shooting by many.

WOW THATS CONCLUSIVE.



Heres mine


BOTH Snake eyes and kirk occurred on days with 'y'' in them

BOTH Cage and Kirk have been married

cage has 3 kids. If Kirk had another 1 he too would have had 3 kids.


Cage and Kirk both have 4 letters

Nicolas and Charlie have 7 letters

7 is the nazi number- both were nazi's. except Cage. And kirk




its an obvious inside job by mossad. case closed

[Krankenstein]

Name Similarity: Charles Kirkland in Snake Eyes, Charlie Kirk in reality.

SO A DIFFERENT NAME

Politician Status: Kirkland is U.S. Secretary of Defense in the film; Kirk is a right-wing activist.

SO A DIFFERENT JOB

Date Overlap: Snake Eyes scoreboard shows September 10; Kirk was shot on September 10, 2025.

SO THE SAME CALENDAR DATE BUT 29 YEARS APART

Highly Public Shooting: Kirkland’s assassination occurs at a crowded boxing arena in the movie; Kirk’s shooting happens at a UVU campus event with thousands.

KIRKLANDS IS A FILM IN A SPORTING EVENT. KIRKS WAS IN REAL TIME AT A POLITICAL RALLY

Tyler Characters: Lincoln Tyler, a boxer tied to the conspiracy, and Tyler McNulty, Kirkland’s aide, in Snake Eyes; Tyler Robinson, Kirk’s shooter, in reality.

SO TWO MEN WITHOUT THE EXACT SAME NAMES WERE INVOLVED IN THE FILM

Drag Scene and Lance Twiggs: In Snake Eyes, a man involved in the killing is in drag; in reality, Lance Twiggs, Robinson’s transgender boyfriend, turned over incriminating texts.

ROBINSONS TRANSGENDER BOYFRIEND HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THE SHOOTING. SO WRONG


Twiggsy Line: In Snake Eyes, a character says, “Hey, Twiggsy, you hiding bodies again?”; in reality, Lance Twiggs is linked to Kirk’s shooter.

SO TWIGGS IS TWIGGSY ISNT. WRONG AGAIN. ALSO THAT WAS THE ALLEGED BOYFRIEND SO WHAT?

Israeli Connection: In Snake Eyes, the plot involves U.S. weapons transfers to Israel; Israel has been accused of being involved with Kirk’s shooting by many.

WOW THATS CONCLUSIVE.



Heres mine


BOTH Snake eyes and kirk occurred on days with 'y'' in them

BOTH Cage and Kirk have been married

cage has 3 kids. If Kirk had another 1 he too would have had 3 kids.


Cage and Kirk both have 4 letters

Nicolas and Charlie have 7 letters

7 is the nazi number- both were nazi's. except Cage. And kirk




its an obvious inside job by mossad. case closed

Both are guys...have dicks

Both don't look like they lift

Both look like slobs according to Bhanks

The similarities continue ....................

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Name Similarity: Charles Kirkland in Snake Eyes, Charlie Kirk in reality.

SO A DIFFERENT NAME

Politician Status: Kirkland is U.S. Secretary of Defense in the film; Kirk is a right-wing activist.

SO A DIFFERENT JOB

Date Overlap: Snake Eyes scoreboard shows September 10; Kirk was shot on September 10, 2025.

SO THE SAME CALENDAR DATE BUT 29 YEARS APART

If they had the exact same name, were shot on the exact same date, in the exact same way, you’d still say:

SO A DIFFERENT PERSON. NOTHING TO SEE HERE.

That’s the problem — every single overlap is waved away with “not identical,” as if anything short of a carbon copy is irrelevant. Reality isn’t that neat.

SAME FIRST NAME: Charles vs. Charles (Charlie Kirk’s legal name was Charles James Kirk)

SAME DAY OF ASSASSINATION: September 10 vs. September 10

SAME KILL SHOT LOCATION: Both Kirkland and Kirk shot in the neck and killed

SIMILAR LAST NAME: Kirk vs. Kirkland

SIMILAR NAMES OF INVOLVED PEOPLE: Lincoln Tyler, Tyler McNulty, Tyler Robinson

At some point, it stops looking like coincidence and starts looking like a pattern you’re bending over backwards to deny.

No one is saying they’re literally the same person or that reality should match fiction scene-for-scene. But when multiple names, dates, methods, and details line up this closely across fiction and reality, dismissing it all with “different job” or “different place” doesn’t make the pattern vanish.

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Both are guys...have dicks

Both don't look like they lift

Both look like slobs according to Bhanks

The similarities continue ....................

Both had the same names: James
Both were killed on the same day: September 10
Both were shot in the neck by an assassin
Both were guys...had dicks
Both were Caucasian
Both didn't look like they lift
Both looked like slobs according to Bhanks

The similarities continue ....................
FIFY

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Spoiler Alert: The movie is actually entertaining. Tyler beats the shit out of Cage - it looked real to me goddammit!

[Dave D]

If they had the exact same name, were shot on the exact same date, in the exact same way, you’d still say:

SO A DIFFERENT PERSON. NOTHING TO SEE HERE.

That’s the problem — every single overlap is waved away with “not identical,” as if anything short of a carbon copy is irrelevant. Reality isn’t that neat.

SAME FIRST NAME: Charles vs. Charles (Charlie Kirk’s legal name was Charles James Kirk)

SAME DAY OF ASSASSINATION: September 10 vs. September 10

SAME KILL SHOT LOCATION: Both Kirkland and Kirk shot in the neck and killed

SIMILAR LAST NAME: Kirk vs. Kirkland

SIMILAR NAMES OF INVOLVED PEOPLE: Lincoln Tyler, Tyler McNulty, Tyler Robinson

At some point, it stops looking like coincidence and starts looking like a pattern you’re bending over backwards to deny.

No one is saying they’re literally the same person or that reality should match fiction scene-for-scene. But when multiple names, dates, methods, and details line up this closely across fiction and reality, dismissing it all with “different job” or “different place” doesn’t make the pattern vanish.

What does it mean then?

Charlie Kirk was born to be murdered. Was he in on the grift?

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What does it mean then?

Charlie Kirk was born to be murdered. Was he in on the grift?

It means it’s all a dog-and-pony show — scripted like pro wrestling. All the world’s a stage.

The CIA, FBI, and Mossad often operate in plain sight, flaunting their actions.

Trump’s so‑called assassin had previously appeared in a BlackRock advertisement. A BlackRock‑linked firm allegedly shorted Trump’s stock just before the assassination attempt — then claimed it was a “mistake” after he survived. Now, fact‑checkers rush to brand the story “fake news.”

In both Trump’s assassination attempt and Kirk’s assassination, the shooters somehow managed to position themselves on rooftops within lethal range despite the presence of heavy security. Securing rooftops is one of the most basic steps in VIP protection — because that’s exactly where shooters tend to set up.

The whole spectacle is absurd — nothing but smoke and mirrors.

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It doesn’t have to be prophecy. If a 1998 movie really showed a “Charles Kirkland” assassinated on Sept 10 with a neck shot and then, decades later, a real “Charles Kirk” dies the same way, there are two main ways to explain it:

Engineered Illusion (inside the system): A film is made first with generic but dramatic details. Years later, when a real person with a matching name rises to prominence, an event is staged or shaped to mirror the movie. No prophecy, no cooperation by the victim — just planners copying their own script to send a psychological message.

Simulation Hypothesis (outside the system): If we’re in a simulation, the “movie” and the “event” can be retro‑inserted or adjusted at once as part of an experiment to see how society reacts to uncanny coincidences. The victim doesn’t have to be involved; the parallels are just variables set by the simulators.

Either way, the pattern doesn’t require Charlie Kirk to be “in on it.” It’s either a long‑term psy‑op copying a movie, or a simulation event designed to study mass psychology — not literal prediction.

[beakdoctor]

I was really entertained by this movie.

I was really entertained by Charlie Kirks debates.

The movie was panned by critics.

Charlie Kirk was panned by critics.

I thought the critics were too harsh on the movie and generally disagreed with their reviews.

I thought the critics were too harsh on Charlie Kirk and definitely disagreed with their criticism.

There was an assassination in the movie.

An asshole assassin assassinated Charlie Kirk.

Hmmm, this is just too much to be a coincidence.

Lincoln was assassinated in Fords theater
Kennedy was assassinated in a Lincoln.

The titanic sunk after hitting an iceberg.
A book 10 years earlier predicted this in a novel about an unsinkable ship called the Titan

Etc etc etc

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I was really entertained by this movie.

I was really entertained by Charlie Kirks debates.

The movie was panned by critics.

Charlie Kirk was panned by critics.

I thought the critics were too harsh on the movie and generally disagreed with their reviews.

I thought the critics were too harsh on Charlie Kirk and definitely disagreed with their criticism.

There was an assassination in the movie.

An asshole assassin assassinated Charlie Kirk.

Hmmm, this is just too much to be a coincidence.

Lincoln was assassinated in Fords theater
Kennedy was assassinated in a Lincoln.

The titanic sunk after hitting an iceberg.
A book 10 years earlier predicted this in a novel about an unsinkable ship called the Titan

Etc etc etc

Comparing this to Lincoln/Kennedy trivia or the Titan/Titanic novel isn’t accurate. Those are single coincidences people notice after the fact.

In this case many people have noticed a dense cluster of specific parallels between the 1998 Charles Kirkland film and the 2025 Charles Kirk assassination:
– Same first name
– Similar surname
– Exact same date (Sept 10)
– Same method (neck shot)
– Multiple recurring names of involved characters (Lincoln Tyler, Tyler McNulty, Tyler Robinson)

One or two loose similarities? Sure, that’s trivia. But five separate details lining up with a real, high‑profile figure decades later is a different category entirely.

Whatever the ultimate explanation is, it isn’t just “LOL another Lincoln/Kennedy meme.” That comparison is a way of dismissing something that a lot of people find genuinely unusual and worth a closer look.

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Another possibility is that the assassin noticed the similarity between “Charles Kirk” and the movie’s “Charles Kirkland” and tried to recreate the plot in real life — even timing the attack for September 10 to match the film. He couldn’t be sure Kirk would appear that day, but being near 9/11 may have helped, and he got lucky. I’m not fully convinced, but it’s a scenario worth considering.