Author Topic: Dorian Yates puts Mike Israetel in his place  (Read 7185 times)

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Re: Dorian Yates puts Mike Israetel in his place
« Reply #175 on: November 03, 2025, 05:32:12 PM »
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Ha. The Israetel cries out while he strikes you.

Mike is the definition of a smart dumb guy. He's too smug to just wait this out without commenting. And Lyle, and Solomon by extension, are pitbulls with stuff like this. They've hobbled his entire "Dr" schtick, and are spinning him around in circles about it.

Also lol at Layne getting shoe'd in the ass spectacularly hard at 35 minutes in :).





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Damn this guy is good.

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Re: Dorian Yates puts Mike Israetel on his place
« Reply #176 on: November 03, 2025, 05:34:25 PM »
Mike is in serious damage control mode, Solomon says he's deleted like 2K comments on some of his his videos. I wonder how much he's made, they are talking multi-millions.
Big time damage control. Views are way down, very obvious they’re deleting tons of comments, his IG is a mess, he destroyed the reps of Milo Wolf and Piggie Pak, and they’ve lost subs. Serves him right. But yeah he’s a real black cloud that’s messing up everyone’s livelihood. He’s defenseless against Solomon and too dim witted to keep up with him.
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Re: Dorian Yates puts Mike Israetel on his place
« Reply #177 on: November 03, 2025, 06:39:41 PM »
Big time damage control. Views are way down, very obvious they’re deleting tons of comments, his IG is a mess, he destroyed the reps of Milo Wolf and Piggie Pak, and they’ve lost subs. Serves him right. But yeah he’s a real black cloud that’s messing up everyone’s livelihood. He’s defenseless against Solomon and too dim witted to keep up with him.

Indeed. Some of these fellas could be getbiggers:

https://www.instagram.com/drmikeisraetel/p/DQnMOc9DVmB/
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Why don't you address directly the content of the criticism directed at you by Solomon, instead of using different fallacies to dismiss everything? They way you are reacting is worse than the phd errors themselves.
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Deleting comments instead of addressing valid critiques isn’t a good look considering the years of critiques you’ve dished out in your most viral vids my friend
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Hey Mr Mike, still not a PhD, still not a pro
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Re: Dorian Yates puts Mike Israetel in his place
« Reply #178 on: November 04, 2025, 03:41:03 AM »
Have Getbiggers reached any conclusion on what will help me grow 23” arms?
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Re: Dorian Yates puts Mike Israetel on his place
« Reply #179 on: November 04, 2025, 04:34:55 AM »

So there’s a lot of information here that doesn’t address Vans question but you spent the whole first paragraph talking about a very specific tricep machine you developed the you say and “Getbig can’t see what my ideas were about, wanting specific exercises, sets and reps”…. So you talk about inventing a tricep machine then insult the community because they only care about what exercises to use.

Your theory is :

Train using exercises that cause DOMS and repeat every 3rd day. Warm up with lighter resistances until you can't do more than 15 reps. Keep using that maximum resistance for another 5 sets. Target one or two body parts each time you train this way as doing more body parts might end up shutting you down with too much waste products in your system.

What makes this a groundbreaking theory ?


DOMS, Delayed Onset Muscle Soreness, is something everyone knows something about. The lasting pain has not been embraced as a factor central to rapid hypertrophy. Almost all studies of the phenomenon try to reduce or eliminate that pain. Contrast those studies to my claim that DOMS should be generated then sustained for about a month to trigger rapid muscular growth. I have always been interested in trying to get muscles as large as possible drug free. If science can find short cuts without side effects that will be great. Until then there is no easy way to get big without taking anabolic drugs.

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Re: Dorian Yates puts Mike Israetel in his place
« Reply #180 on: November 04, 2025, 04:44:31 AM »
Guys like this in the fitness field calling themselves experts. No one is a expert at anything.
If you call yourself a expert you are either very arrogant of delusional.

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Re: Dorian Yates puts Mike Israetel on his place
« Reply #181 on: November 04, 2025, 05:07:45 AM »

DOMS, Delayed Onset Muscle Soreness, is something everyone knows something about. The lasting pain has not been embraced as a factor central to rapid hypertrophy. Almost all studies of the phenomenon try to reduce or eliminate that pain. Contrast those studies to my claim that DOMS should be generated then sustained for about a month to trigger rapid muscular growth. I have always been interested in trying to get muscles as large as possible drug free. If science can find short cuts without side effects that will be great. Until then there is no easy way to get big without taking anabolic drugs.


Doesn't gradually increasing weight, increasing reps or periodically changing exercises cause DOMS anyway?

How is causing DOMS a new theory of training?

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Re: Dorian Yates puts Mike Israetel in his place
« Reply #182 on: November 04, 2025, 05:16:01 AM »
Have Getbiggers reached any conclusion on what will help me grow 23” arms?

My Aunt Mildred knew the secret...


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Re: Dorian Yates puts Mike Israetel in his place
« Reply #183 on: November 04, 2025, 05:16:39 AM »
Guys like this in the fitness field calling themselves experts. No one is a expert at anything.
If you call yourself a expert you are either very arrogant of delusional.


Is that your expert opinion?

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Re: Dorian Yates puts Mike Israetel in his place
« Reply #184 on: November 04, 2025, 06:36:05 AM »
Brutal if true

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Re: Dorian Yates puts Mike Israetel in his place
« Reply #185 on: November 04, 2025, 10:29:22 AM »
Brutal if true

What if "Palestine" and whole Middle-East put Israetel in Place?
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Re: Dorian Yates puts Mike Israetel on his place
« Reply #186 on: November 04, 2025, 11:40:33 AM »
Doesn't gradually increasing weight, increasing reps or periodically changing exercises cause DOMS anyway?

How is causing DOMS a new theory of training?

Many "scientists" say DOMS is an indicator of something, but all also say evidently it's not necessary for growth because some heavily muscled people don't get sore unless starting back the first few workouts. Mentzer was one who IIRC said he pretty much never got sore.

Regarding increasing loads, Israetel says if you get stronger each workout you're not training enough! Hard to make sense of that. You're getting 'better' each workout but you should really be getting weaker. I guess there's some "periodization" built in to wash off fatigue or whatever but I always feel my last workouts were successes if I'm getting stronger.

Lyle's long rant on the circle jerk.

https://www.instagram.com/p/DQFSfiyDHSt/

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Re: Dorian Yates puts Mike Israetel on his place
« Reply #187 on: November 04, 2025, 11:42:58 AM »
Many "scientists" say DOMS is an indicator of something, but all also say evidently it's not necessary for growth because some heavily muscled people don't get sore unless starting back the first few workouts. Mentzer was one who IIRC said he pretty much never got sore.

Regarding increasing loads, Israetel says if you get stronger each workout you're not training enough! Hard to make sense of that. You're getting 'better' each workout but you should really be getting weaker. I guess there's some "periodization" built in to wash off fatigue or whatever but I always feel my last workouts were successes if I'm getting stronger.

what a fucking moron

Doesnt he know about the law of diminishing returns?

Ask him why someone training everyday cant deadlift 5000lbs after 30 years

Strength maxes out for everyone

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Re: Dorian Yates puts Mike Israetel on his place
« Reply #188 on: November 04, 2025, 01:06:29 PM »
Many "scientists" say DOMS is an indicator of something, but all also say evidently it's not necessary for growth because some heavily muscled people don't get sore unless starting back the first few workouts. Mentzer was one who IIRC said he pretty much never got sore.

Regarding increasing loads, Israetel says if you get stronger each workout you're not training enough! Hard to make sense of that. You're getting 'better' each workout but you should really be getting weaker. I guess there's some "periodization" built in to wash off fatigue or whatever but I always feel my last workouts were successes if I'm getting stronger.

Lyle's long rant on the circle jerk.

https://www.instagram.com/p/DQFSfiyDHSt/
what a fucking moron

Doesnt he know about the law of diminishing returns?

Ask him why someone training everyday cant deadlift 5000lbs after 30 years

Strength maxes out for everyone
“Dr.” Mike also recommends deloads every 4 weeks. ::), rounding of the spine on belt squats, and letting your toes come off the ground during RDLs
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Re: Dorian Yates puts Mike Israetel on his place
« Reply #189 on: November 04, 2025, 01:10:06 PM »
what a fucking moron

Doesnt he know about the law of diminishing returns?

Ask him why someone training everyday cant deadlift 5000lbs after 30 years

Strength maxes out for everyone

exactly its not like you can keep on going up in strength 

mike is not strong either   

i saw one video he could only bench 240 for two reps which is pathetic for a guy who claims to be a power lifter and on a ton of gear

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Re: Dorian Yates puts Mike Israetel on his place
« Reply #190 on: Today at 04:10:30 AM »
Mike Isratel may possibly be the absolute biggest piece of shit in the entire industry. I wish the absolute worst for him.

He claims the reason for his company Renaissance Periodization (RP) is to show the world his training/diet methods work! Except, they don't. And especially not for Mike.

Look at him...just look at him. He looks like shit. He's in his early 40s, but looks to be about 60. He's disgusting looking. Hairy and fat.

He was recently on the JustKidding podcast with a bunch of Chinese delivery drivers. His grotesque stomach was sticking out and resting on the sofa cushion of the sofa that he was slumped back on. He was on this worthless podcast doing more damage control for his PHD debacle. And his company RP sponsored this podcast that he was a guest on during which he attempted to defend himself.

Mike is a failed bodybuilder who has placed horribly in all his shows. And he ALWAYS will place horribly. He looked like utter dogshit at his recent show (and all previous shows) and blamed his poor placing on a bad tan and excess water in his love handles. He then got plastic surgery to remove these love handles. But if you ask him, his love handles were not caused by him being a fat fuck and not dieting correctly. Nope!! According to him, the excess water stored in his love handles were from when he "chose" to get fat as part of a dreamer bulk years ago! He now even has future plans for more surgeries! He wants to have tummy tucks, ribs broken, and a plastic waist device inserted in his gut.

And apparently, according to him, he's the only one who knows his body; and he's the only one who could coach himself. He feels no one is smart enough to coach him. His contest diet consisted of Gatorade and cereal.

He also appears to be a sexual deviant and a latent homosexual. In a past video with Johnny Shrieve, he discussed on camera being human toilet paper for other men. Then, in other videos, he has discussed giving blow jobs and rubbing other men's cocks. He's spoke about harming animals and violently assaulting other people in the fitness industry.

His PHD scandal is the most recent train wreck that he caused. His PHD paper was reviewed by Solomon Nelson and there were 100s and 100s of errors. He even misspelled the word science. Then he tried covering up all the mistakes and attempted to commit academic fraud. But many feel the university caught and him and stopped him. And then his social media company tried hiding and covering up all the errors and they got caught as well. And his PHD was junk. It was trash. His PHD paper basically concluded that fit people are fitter and strong people are stronger. His paper should never have passed. And he's been using his PHD for years as a marketing tool; and to portray himself as an exercise scientist and an intelligent researcher. He's built his business and reputation off his PHD. Now the truth was revealed. He's a dimwitted fraud.

He's been going on a damage control tour and digging himself deeper and deeper.

He's a piece of fucking shit. And always will be.


Dr Mike picked Mike Mentzer as his target.  Huge mistake. Mentzer has some of the best genetics ever.


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Re: Dorian Yates puts Mike Israetel on his place
« Reply #191 on: Today at 09:11:09 AM »
what a fucking moron

Doesnt he know about the law of diminishing returns?

Ask him why someone training everyday cant deadlift 5000lbs after 30 years

Strength maxes out for everyone
Same with hypertrophy although so few want to admit it.