Democrats shut down goes on….

[Coach is Back!]

Funk, stay out of this one. You’re incapable of intelligent reasoning, conversation, comprehension or any form of critical thinking

In case you haven’t put two and two together yet. This shutdown was planned and it was planned to go on for long as needed to try to change the narrative to use for the midterms.

Jobs losses (since October) markets, everything. This is the lefts MO. They did it with the fake lockdowns and they did it with the fake J6 “insurrection”.  All designed to sabotage Trumps agenda that 89% of the country mandated.  Lets have this discussion.

[Primemuscle]

Funk, stay out of this one. You’re incapable of intelligent reasoning, conversation, comprehension or any form of critical thinking

In case you haven’t put two and two together yet. This shutdown was planned and it was planned to go on for long as needed to try to change the narrative to use for the midterms.

Jobs losses (since October) markets, everything. This is the lefts MO. They did it with the fake lockdowns and they did it with the fake J6 “insurrection”.  All designed to sabotage Trumps agenda that 89% of the country mandated.  Lets have this discussion.

You obviously believe in, enjoy, and embrace your political fantasies. Unfortunately, these fantasies do not foster critical thinking, intelligent reasoning, and serious comprehension.

[chaos]

You obviously believe in, enjoy, and embrace your political fantasies. Unfortunately, these fantasies do not foster critical thinking, intelligent reasoning, and serious comprehension.

Pot/kettle

[LurkerNoMore]

You obviously believe in, enjoy, and embrace your political fantasies. Unfortunately, these fantasies do not foster critical thinking, intelligent reasoning, and serious comprehension.

At some point you would think he can’t possibly be this dumb.  But then he proves you wrong.  There are higher IQs in the morgue.

[Coach is Back!]

At some point you would think he can’t possibly be this dumb.  But then he proves you wrong.  There are higher IQs in the morgue.

Anytime you’re ready, mouth

www.zoom.com

[Grape Ape]

You obviously believe in, enjoy, and embrace your political fantasies. Unfortunately, these fantasies do not foster critical thinking, intelligent reasoning, and serious comprehension.

If so, you could have easily tried to counter his statement rather than resort to what you typed.

Please, further the discussion.

[LurkerNoMore]

Anytime you’re ready, mouth

www.zoom.com

You have been told over and over why no one is wasting time “debating” a retard.  For the same reasons listed above. Yet you don’t seem to understand it.   Did that stroke propel you to a new height of retardation that hasn’t been discovered yet?  Or are you naturally this stupid that you can’t understand simple explanations. 

[LurkerNoMore]

If so, you could have easily tried to counter his statement rather than resort to what you typed.

Please, further the discussion.

After the words “fake lockdown” and “fake J6” he didn’t have to.  There is no point in engaging with false facts nonsense.  Or someone that continually spouts exactly that.

By the same token feel free to further Qoach’s discussion with your own facts.

[obsidian]

Funk, stay out of this one. You’re incapable of intelligent reasoning, conversation, comprehension or any form of critical thinking

In case you haven’t put two and two together yet. This shutdown was planned and it was planned to go on for long as needed to try to change the narrative to use for the midterms.

Jobs losses (since October) markets, everything. This is the lefts MO. They did it with the fake lockdowns and they did it with the fake J6 “insurrection”.  All designed to sabotage Trumps agenda that 89% of the country mandated.  Lets have this discussion.

Elon was duped into thinking he could help reduce government spending. Instead, they dragged Dogecoin’s name through the gutter with the ridiculous “DOGE” department, alienating everyone in the process. And in the end, it was all just political theater — Trump never had the guts to follow through on what he supposedly asked Elon to do.

So let’s stop pretending Trump was serious about cutting government expenses. It was an act. The truth is, neither Trump nor anyone else has a real path out of the U.S. debt crisis. We’re over $38 trillion in debt now. Even before Trump won his second election, it was obvious the debt problem was already beyond saving.

At this point, they might as well reopen the government and inflate the dollar into oblivion so we can reset. As long as crypto becomes far more valuable, I really couldn’t care less about the dollar.

[LurkerNoMore]

Elon was duped into thinking he could help reduce government spending. Instead, they dragged Dogecoin’s name through the gutter with the ridiculous “DOGE” department, alienating everyone in the process. And in the end, it was all just political theater — Trump never had the guts to follow through on what he supposedly asked Elon to do.

So let’s stop pretending Trump was serious about cutting government expenses. It was an act. The truth is, neither Trump nor anyone else has a real path out of the U.S. debt crisis. We’re over $38 trillion in debt now. Even before Trump won his second election, it was obvious the debt problem was already beyond saving.

At this point, they might as well reopen the government and inflate the dollar into oblivion so we can reset. As long as crypto becomes far more valuable, I really couldn’t care less about the dollar.

This guy understands it. 

[obsidian]

https://qz.com/us-national-debt-economy-kent-smetters-wharton

The economist counting down to America's debt doomsday

Kent Smetters, who runs the Penn Wharton Budget Model, has a forecast for when the economy's breaking point could arrive

He was once called “Dr. Doom and Gloom” on Wall Street. Not everything has changed for Kent Smetters, who runs the Penn Wharton Budget Model. His economic predictions remain gloomy, but imminent doom isn’t around the corner.

In his view, doom will land on America’s doorstep between 2045 and 2050, the breaking point for the U.S. economy. That’s the moment when, as Smetters sees it, the cost of interest payments on the national debt would become so large for the federal government that even a broad-based tax increase wouldn’t cut it anymore.

At that point, Smetters says, the U.S. government would enter either an explicit or implicit default, both with calamitous consequences. An explicit default renders the U.S. a global deadbeat. An implicit default theoretically occurs through debt monetization — which jacks up inflation — or by trimming Social Security and Medicare payments.

“This is when panic starts happening. This is the loss of faith in government,” Smetters told me. “That's what's doomed other societies as well. Before us, you can go all the way back to Rome, to France, Spain, the U.K., and Germany. Almost every empire has been taken down by debt.”

Smetters is part of a familiar group of fiscal hawks cycling in and out of Washington, which has all but surrendered to a national debt that swells in size with every passing day. The gross U.S. federal debt surpassed $38 trillion in October, per data from the Treasury Department. Put another way, total U.S. debt has grown by $66,225 each second so far in 2025, according to the Joint Economic Committee in Congress.

Those are staggering figures. But the growing U.S. debt isn’t likely to be tamed anytime soon. President Donald Trump and a GOP-led Congress brushed aside concerns about fiscal discipline when they muscled through the so-called “Big Beautiful Bill” with a $3.4 trillion price tag this summer.

‘Neither party has any credibility’

Tackling the debt has periodically cropped up as a priority in Congress. The most well-known effort in recent times was the bipartisan Simpson-Bowles Commission in 2011. Lawmakers in both chambers convened to strike an austerity deal the country could live with. It didn’t take long for those belt-tightening efforts to collapse, triggering automatic cuts in the ensuing years. A striking resignation has sunk in even among hardened spending-battle veterans.

“Frankly neither party has any credibility on that issue anymore,” Virginia Democratic Sen. Mark Warner, who sat on the Simpson-Bowles panel, told me a couple years ago. The U.S. debt at the time registered $32 trillion, a ballooning amount he believed was going to “come back and bite us.”

[obsidian]

Bankrupt US wants Venezuela's resources.

[Coach is Back!]

Elon was duped into thinking he could help reduce government spending. Instead, they dragged Dogecoin’s name through the gutter with the ridiculous “DOGE” department, alienating everyone in the process. And in the end, it was all just political theater — Trump never had the guts to follow through on what he supposedly asked Elon to do.

So let’s stop pretending Trump was serious about cutting government expenses. It was an act. The truth is, neither Trump nor anyone else has a real path out of the U.S. debt crisis. We’re over $38 trillion in debt now. Even before Trump won his second election, it was obvious the debt problem was already beyond saving.

At this point, they might as well reopen the government and inflate the dollar into oblivion so we can reset. As long as crypto becomes far more valuable, I really couldn’t care less about the dollar.

What the hell re you talking about? Did you post this in the right thread? I’m not talking about any of that?