affordability

[Necrosis]

What are the thoughts on the socialist move to send out 2000 checks to middle and low income families by trump? dividends. I am sure he isn't lying of course, so is it a good plan to redistribute the wealth?

What about the 50 year mortgage? anyone happy with that???

[GymnJuice]

What are the thoughts on the socialist move to send out 2000 checks to middle and low income families by trump? dividends. I am sure he isn't lying of course, so is it a good plan to redistribute the wealth?

What about the 50 year mortgage? anyone happy with that???

I think the $2,000 rebate is a bad idea. They should just pay off our debts instead.

As for 50-year mortgages, I don’t have strong feelings one way or the other. That’s a choice between the borrower and the bank. I know 15 and 30 year options already exist. What bothers me more is the broader pattern. Many people buy homes they can’t truly afford just to keep up with the Joneses. A longer mortgage only enables more debt. And I’m skeptical that a home is a good “investment,” and I say that as a homeowner.

[IroNat]

Getbiggers won't get these checks for obvious reasons.

[Grape Ape]

I am not a fan of either, but if I can understand why folks in a different financial situation would feel differently.

I would view the 2k as a tax rebate for being over taxed, personally.  But others who don't pay as much taxes, it's just a gov't handout.  I think Trump has to move away from this stuff and pay down the debt.  Either way, he shouldn't say it until it's a go.

For the mortgage, it's hiding the growing problem of homes being too expensive for first time buyers.  Only way it can benefit would be to take one, but pay principal down faster if you can.  One of the big issues is contractors don't build starter homes much anymore, as it's not as lucrative.

[LurkerNoMore]

What are the thoughts on the socialist move to send out 2000 checks to middle and low income families by trump? dividends. I am sure he isn't lying of course, so is it a good plan to redistribute the wealth?

What about the 50 year mortgage? anyone happy with that???

Hahahahahhaahaha.

What about Trumpy's proposal for a universal healthcare system to be put in place?  All this winning sure seems like socialism for the MAGAtards.  But they keep quiet about it selectively. 

[Coach is Back!]

What are the thoughts on the socialist move to send out 2000 checks to middle and low income families by trump? dividends. I am sure he isn't lying of course, so is it a good plan to redistribute the wealth?

What about the 50 year mortgage? anyone happy with that???

Not a fan of the 50 year mortgage. Years ago I refied from a 30 to 15. As the $2k. It would be coming from Tariff revenue. That's not socialism.

[LurkerNoMore]

Not a fan of the 50 year mortgage. Years ago I refied from a 30 to 15. As the $2k. It would be coming from Tariff revenue. That's not socialism.

Except tariffs are not revenue.      

They are a tax that WE pay for. 

[Coach is Back!]

Except tariffs are not revenue.      

They are a tax that WE pay for.

lol...whatever you want to call it

[funk51]

 

     

   The 2 thousand dollar rebate is just a distraction to mask the overall poor job his administration is doing= instead of prices going down as he promised they have gone up. it's like I messed up here take this 2 grand  and shut the hell up and go back and sit in the corner. the  50 year mortgage plan is Ludacris as people will be like in the old song " I owe my soul to the company store". If you can't afford a 20 or 30 year mortgage you shouldn't be buying a house. When I bought my house back in 1978 interest rates were 10 and a half percent.  so on a loan of 32 k I would be paying 76 k over the 20 year period. I paid it off in 13 years thus saving a few bucks. the only thing I messed up with, I could have bought the lot next to my house for only 5 K

[Grape Ape]

"Ludacris"


LOL.

[funk51]

"Ludacris"


LOL.

       

                                   

[funk51]

Getbiggers won't get these checks for obvious reasons.

   

    yup,  nudge,  nudge,   wink,  wink,  say no more.

[Grape Ape]

       

                                   

[Necrosis]

I think the $2,000 rebate is a bad idea. They should just pay off our debts instead.

As for 50-year mortgages, I don’t have strong feelings one way or the other. That’s a choice between the borrower and the bank. I know 15 and 30 year options already exist. What bothers me more is the broader pattern. Many people buy homes they can’t truly afford just to keep up with the Joneses. A longer mortgage only enables more debt. And I’m skeptical that a home is a good “investment,” and I say that as a homeowner.

Dude,

there is no money for 2000 rebates, it's non-sensical. He is giving the money to farmers, for the golden dome, for paying down the debt for cheques. the whole amount is like 300billion for the year, do the math.

He is lying to drum up support like a psychopath.

[Grape Ape]

Dude,

there is no money for 2000 rebates, it's non-sensical. He is giving the money to farmers, for the golden dome, for paying down the debt for cheques. the whole amount is like 300billion for the year, do the math.

He is lying to drum up support like a psychopath.

Foreign spelling reported to moderators.

[Coach is Back!]

Except tariffs are not revenue.      

They are a tax that WE pay for.

$20 trillion In US investments is a direct result of the tariffs placed on overseas companies as incentives to bring their manufacturing to the US. I know you can't figure it out from here....but try.

What I find hilarious is that you morons bitch that tariffs might cause higher prices but will vote for people that have no concept of economics but will tax the living shit out of us on literally everything.

[funk51]

$20 trillion In US investments is a direct result of the tariffs placed on overseas companies as incentives to bring their manufacturing to the US. I know you can't figure it out from here....but try.

What I find hilarious is that you morons bitch that tariffs might cause higher prices but will vote for people that have no concept of economics but will tax the living shit out of us on literally everything.

 

      I suppose you have an advance degree in economics from a top university. please explain micro and macro economics plus the GNP to the rest of us morons. So now we have higher prices thanks to the tariffs and taxes remain the same how is this better, meanwhile trump struggles to sing god bless america. 

   Too bad that wasn't a live mic I wonder what he was really saying, probably person, man, woman, camera, TV. I GUESS HE SHOULD JUST STICK TO DANCING. do you get all warm and fuzzy inside when you watch him dance. WELL do you ?

[GymnJuice]

Dude,

there is no money for 2000 rebates, it's non-sensical. He is giving the money to farmers, for the golden dome, for paying down the debt for cheques. the whole amount is like 300billion for the year, do the math.

He is lying to drum up support like a psychopath.

You'll have to dumb it down for me because I am not as smart as you are

You asked the board for our thoughts on the $2,000 rebates. I said I think it’s a bad idea and would prefer that any tariff revenue go toward paying down the national debt.

If you’re now saying there isn’t enough tariff money to fund what he’s promising, I’ll buy that. I don’t run the numbers myself. I assume it’s an off the cuff figure that Congress will trim (both the pool of qualifiers and the total amount) during negotiations. Either way, I was responding to the broader concept. These kinds of rebates generally aren’t good for the country.

[chaos]

You'll have to dumb it down for me because I am not as smart as you are

You asked the board for our thoughts on the $2,000 rebates. I said I think it’s a bad idea and would prefer that any tariff revenue go toward paying down the national debt.

If you’re now saying there isn’t enough tariff money to fund what he’s promising, I’ll buy that. I don’t run the numbers myself. I assume it’s an off the cuff figure that Congress will trim (both the pool of qualifiers and the total amount) during negotiations. Either way, I was responding to the broader concept. These kinds of rebates generally aren’t good for the country.

Negrosis ran the numbers all the way from canada.

[LurkerNoMore]

$20 trillion In US investments is a direct result of the tariffs placed on overseas companies as incentives to bring their manufacturing to the US. I know you can't figure it out from here....but try.

What I find hilarious is that you morons bitch that tariffs might cause higher prices but will vote for people that have no concept of economics but will tax the living shit out of us on literally everything.

Now post an actual link to this "$20 Trillion."   

Yeah I know... fat orange turd claimed it and you believed it.

[Necrosis]

$20 trillion In US investments is a direct result of the tariffs placed on overseas companies as incentives to bring their manufacturing to the US. I know you can't figure it out from here....but try.

What I find hilarious is that you morons bitch that tariffs might cause higher prices but will vote for people that have no concept of economics but will tax the living shit out of us on literally everything.

lololololololololol

20 trillion haha

whats the us gdp again? you have to be a special type of guy to not realize how retarded this is.

[Grape Ape]

lololololololololol

20 trillion haha

whats the us gdp again? you have to be a special type of guy to not realize how retarded this is.

Perhaps he was referring to this list?

Here is a non-comprehensive running list of new U.S.-based investments in President Trump’s second term:

Apple announced a $600 billion investment in U.S. manufacturing and workforce training as it brings additional components of its supply chain and advanced manufacturing back to the U.S. — along with an American manufacturing program to incentivize its suppliers to make their products in the U.S.
Project Stargate, led by Japan-based Softbank and U.S.-based OpenAI and Oracle, announced a $500 billion private investment in U.S.-based artificial intelligence infrastructure.
NVIDIA, a global chipmaking giant, announced it will invest $500 billion in U.S.-based AI infrastructure over the next four years amid its pledge to manufacture AI supercomputers entirely in the U.S. for the first time.
Micron Technology, the sole U.S.-based manufacturer of advanced memory chips, announced a $200 billion investment in its U.S.-based manufacturing and production of advanced memory chips — including construction of a second chip fabrication facility in Boise, Idaho, and modernizing its Manassas, Virginia, facility.
IBM announced a $150 billion investment over the next five years in its U.S.-based growth and manufacturing operations.
Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Company (TSMC) announced a $100 billion investment in U.S.-based chips manufacturing.
Johnson & Johnson announced a $55 billion investment over the next four years in manufacturing, research and development, and technology — including a $2 billion dedicated manufacturing facility at the FUJIFILM site in Holly Springs, North Carolina.
AstraZeneca announced a $50 billion investment for medicines manufacturing and research in the U.S.
Roche, a Swiss drug and diagnostics company, announced a $50 billion investment in U.S.-based manufacturing and research and development, which is expected to create more than 1,000 full-time jobs and more than 12,000 jobs including construction.
Bristol Myers Squibb announced a $40 billion investment over the next five years in its research, development, technology, and U.S.-based manufacturing operations.
Amazon announced a $20 billion investment to expand its cloud computing infrastructure in Pennsylvania, creating at least 1,250 new high-skilled jobs, a $10 billion investment to build new data centers in North Carolina, and has committed to a $4 billion investment in small towns across America, creating more than 100,000 new jobs and driving opportunities across the country.
Eli Lilly and Company announced a $27 billion investment to more than double its domestic manufacturing capacity.
Vantage Data Centers announced a $25 billion investment to build a mega-scale 1.4GW data center campus in Shackelford County, Texas — which will employ more than 5,000 people across construction and ongoing operations.
United Arab Emirates-based ADQ and U.S.-based Energy Capital Partners announced a $25 billion investment in U.S. data centers and energy infrastructure.
Google announced a $25 billion investment in data center and AI infrastructure.
Blackstone announced a $25 billion investment in digital and energy infrastructure across Pennsylvania.
Novartis, a Swiss drugmaker, announced a $23 billion investment to build or expand ten manufacturing facilities across the U.S., which will create 4,000 new jobs.
Hyundai announced a $21 billion U.S.-based investment — including $5.8 billion for a new steel plant in Louisiana, which will create nearly 1,500 jobs.
Hyundai also secured an equity investment and agreement from Posco Holdings, South Korea’s top steel maker.
Hyundai later increased its total U.S.-based investment to $26 billion.
John Deere announced plans to invest $20 billion over the next decade in American expansion, production, and manufacturing.
United Arab Emirates-based DAMAC Properties announced a $20 billion investment in new U.S.-based data centers.
France-based CMA CGM, a global shipping giant, announced a $20 billion investment in U.S. shipping and logistics, creating 10,000 new jobs.
Sanofi announced it will invest at least $20 billion over the next five years in manufacturing and research and development.
Venture Global LNG announced an $18 billion investment at its liquefied natural gas facility in Louisiana.
GlobalFoundaries announced a $16 billion investment to boost its U.S.-based chip production, including expanding existing plants in New York and Vermont.
FirstEnergy Corp. announced a $15 billion investment in infrastructure enhancements.
Stellantis announced a $13 billion investment in the U.S. — the largest single investment in the company’s history — to expand its U.S.-based production by over 50%.
Gilead Sciences announced an $11 billion boost to its planned U.S.-based manufacturing investment.
AbbVie announced a $10 billion investment over the next ten years to support volume growth and add four new manufacturing plants to its network — including a $195 million investment to expand its U.S.-based drug production capacity.
Merck & Co. announced it will invest a total of $9 billion in the U.S. over the next several years after opening a new $1 billion North Carolina manufacturing facility — including in a new state-of-the-art biologics manufacturing plant in Delaware, which will create at least 500 new jobs.
PPL announced a $6.8 billion investment to expand grid capacity and modernize transmission.
CoreWeave, Inc., announced a $6 billion investment in data center expansion.
Westinghouse announced a $6 billion investment to build ten large nuclear reactors in the U.S.
Pratt Industries announced a $5 billion investment to create 5,000 new manufacturing jobs in Ohio, Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Arizona.
South Korea-based Hanwha Group announced a $5 billion infrastructure investment at the Hanwha Philly Shipyard to boost local shipbuilding.
GlobalWafers, a Taiwanese silicon wafer manufacturer, announced a $4 billion investment in its U.S.-based production.
Thermo Fisher Scientific announced it will invest an additional $2 billion over the next four years to enhance and expand its U.S. manufacturing operations and strengthen its innovation efforts.
Clarios announced a $6 billion plan to expand its domestic manufacturing operations.
Belgium-based drugmaker UCB announced a $5 billion investment in a new U.S.-based factory.
Ford announced it will invest $5 billion across its Kentucky and Michigan manufacturing plants to deliver a new midsize truck and advanced batteries.
General Motors announced it will invest $4 billion in U.S.-based manufacturing as it shifts more vehicle production from Mexico to the U.S., including in Michigan, Kansas, and Tennessee.
Mitsubishi announced a $3.9 billion investment in energy.
Regeneron Pharmaceuticals, a leader in biotechnology, announced a $3 billion agreement with Fujifilm Diosynth Biotechnologies to produce drugs at its North Carolina manufacturing facility.
Kraft Heinz announced a $3 billion investment to upgrade its U.S. factories — its largest investment in its plants in decades.
GE Appliances announced a $3 billion investment in its U.S.-based manufacturing, onshoring 1,000 jobs and expanding its plants across five states.
NorthMark Strategies, a multi-strategy investment firm, announced a $2.8 billion investment to build a supercomputing facility in South Carolina.
Biogen announced a $2 billion investment in North Carolina-based manufacturing.
Mars, Inc., announced a $2 billion investment in its U.S.-based manufacturing operations.
Kimberly-Clark announced a $2 billion investment to expand its U.S. manufacturing operations, including a new advanced manufacturing facility in Warren, Ohio, an expansion of its Beech Island, South Carolina, facility, and other upgrades to its supply chain network.
Chobani, a Greek yogurt giant, announced $1.7 billion to expand its U.S. operations.
$1.2 billion to build its third U.S. dairy processing plant in New York, which is expected to create more than 1,000 new full-time jobs.
$500 million to expand its Idaho manufacturing plant.
Corning announced it is expanding its Michigan manufacturing facility investment to $1.5 billion, adding 400 new high-paying advanced manufacturing jobs for a total of 1,500 new jobs.
First Solar announced the inauguration of its $1.1 billion high-tech manufacturing facility in Louisiana, which projected to directly employ over 800 people.
Carrier announced an additional $1 billion investment in its U.S. manufacturing, innovation, and workforce expansion, which is expected to create 4,000 new jobs.
GE Aerospace announced a $1 billion investment in manufacturing across 16 states — creating 5,000 new jobs.
Hikma Pharmaceuticals announced a $1 billion investment to expand its U.S.-based manufacturing and research capabilities.
Anduril Industries announced a $1 billion investment for a new autonomous weapon system facility in Ohio.
Live Nation Entertainment announced a $1 billion investment to build 18 new live music venues across the U.S.
Williams International announced a $1 billion investment for a new high-volume aviation gas turbine engine manufacturing facility in Okaloosa County, Florida.
Amgen announced a $900 million investment in its Ohio-based manufacturing operation.
Merck Animal Health announced an $895 million investment to expand their manufacturing operations in Kansas.
General Motors announced an $888 million investment at its propulsion plant in Tonawanda, New York.
Schneider Electric announced it will invest $700 million over the next four years in U.S. energy infrastructure.
GE Vernova announced it will invest nearly $600 million in U.S. manufacturing over the next two years, which will create more than 1,500 new jobs.
Abbott Laboratories announced a $500 million investment in its Illinois and Texas facilities.
AIP Management, a European infrastructure investor, announced a $500 million investment to solar developer Silicon Ranch.
Jabil announced a $500 million investment in manufacturing and AI data center infrastructure across the southeastern U.S.
Hitachi announced a $457 million investment in a new power transformer facility in Virginia.
Wistron Corp, a Taiwanese electronics and AI server manufacturer, announced a $455 million
London-based Diageo announced a $415 million investment in a new Alabama manufacturing facility.
Lego announced a $366 million investment to build a new distribution center in Prince George County, Virginia.
The Bel Group announced a $350 million investment to expand its U.S.-based production, including at its South Dakota, Idaho and Wisconsin facilities — which will create 250 new jobs.
Dublin-based Eaton Corporation announced a $340 million investment in a new South Carolina-based manufacturing facility for its three-phase transformers.
Anheuser-Busch announced a $300 million investment in its manufacturing facilities across the country.
Whirlpool Corporation announced a $300 million investment in its U.S. laundry manufacturing facilities.
Germany-based Siemens announced a $285 million investment in U.S. manufacturing and AI data centers, which will create more than 900 new skilled manufacturing jobs.
Clasen Quality Chocolate announced a $230 million investment to build a new production facility in Virginia, which will create 250 new jobs.
Hadrian, a defense manufacturing startup, announced a $200 million investment to build a large-scale manufacturing and software hub in Mesa, Arizona.
Fiserv, Inc., a financial technology provider, announced a $175 million investment to open a new strategic fintech hub in Kansas, which is expected to create 2,000 new high-paying jobs.
Paris Baguette announced a $160 million investment to construct a manufacturing plant in Texas.
Philips announced a $150 million investment in U.S. manufacturing and research facilities.
Siemens Healthineers announced a $150 million investment to expand production, including relocating manufacturing operations for its Varian company from Mexico to California.
JBS USA announced a $135 million investment for a new sausage production facility in Perry, Iowa.
TS Conductor announced a $134 million investment to build an advanced conductor manufacturing facility in South Carolina, which will create nearly 500 new jobs.
Switzerland-based ABB announced a $120 million investment to expand production of its low-voltage electrification products in Tennessee and Mississippi.
Saica Group, a Spain-based corrugated packaging maker, announced plans to build a $110 million new manufacturing facility in Anderson, Indiana.
Hotpack, a Dubai-based maker of food packaging materials and related products, announced a $100 million investment to establish its first U.S. manufacturing facility in Edison, New Jersey.
Charms, LLC, a subsidiary of candymaker Tootsie Roll Industries, announced a $97.7 million investment to expand its production plant and distribution center in Tennessee.
Toyota Motor Corporation announced an $88 million investment to boost hybrid vehicle production at its West Virginia factory, securing employment for the 2,000 workers at the factory.
Glaukos Corporation, a pharmaceutical drug and medical device company, announced an $82 million investment in Huntsville, Alabama, for manufacturing and research and development, which will bring 154 full-time jobs by 2030.
China-based Kingsun announced an $80 billion investment to establish its first U.S. manufacturing facility in North Carolina.
Rolls-Royce announced a $75 million investment to expand its South Carolina manufacturing facility.
Hanwha Ocean announced a $70 million investment to expand its Philadelphia shipyard.
Hitachi Energy announced a $70 million investment in energy infrastructure.
Century Aluminum announced it will invest $50 million to revive its South Carolina manufacturing plant for the first time in a decade, bringing its production back to 2015 peak levels.
Canada-based Silver Hills Bakery announced a $48.5 million investment to revive the former Kellogg’s facility in Tennessee.
AeroVironment, a defense contractor, announced a $42.3 million investment to build a new manufacturing facility in Utah.
Paris-based Saint-Gobain announced a new $40 million NorPro manufacturing facility in Wheatfield, New York.
India-based Sygene International announced a $36.5 million acquisition of a Baltimore biologics manufacturing facility.
Asahi Group Holdings, one of the largest Japanese beverage makers, announced a $35 million investment to boost production at its Wisconsin plant.
The GE Aerospace Foundation announced a $30 million workforce skills training program to prepare the next generation of its U.S.-based workforce.
Valbruna Slater Stainless announced a $28 million investment in its stainless steel and nickel alloys bars manufacturing plant in Fort Wayne, Indiana.
Nortian Foodtech announced a $22.2 million investment in a Missouri manufacturing facility.
Cyclic Materials, a Canadian advanced recycling company for rare earth elements, announced a $20 million investment in its first U.S.-based commercial facility, located in Mesa, Arizona.
Guardian Bikes announced a $19 million investment to build the first U.S.-based large-scale bicycle frame manufacturing operation in Indiana.
Amsterdam-based AMG Critical Minerals announced a $15 million investment to build a chrome manufacturing facility in Pennsylvania.
NOVONIX Limited, an Australia-based battery technology company, announced a $4.6 million investment to build a synthetic graphite manufacturing facility in Tennessee.
LGM Pharma announced a $6 million investment to expand its manufacturing facility in Rosenberg, Texas.
ViDARR, a defense optical equipment manufacturer, announced a $2.69 million investment to open a new facility in Virginia.

That doesn’t even include the U.S. investments pledged by foreign countries:

United Arab Emirates committed to investing $1.4 trillion in the U.S. over the next decade.
Qatar committed to generating $1.2 trillion in an economic exchange between the two countries.
Japan announced a $1 trillion investment in the U.S.
Saudi Arabia committed investing $600 billion in the U.S. over the next four years.
South Korea committed to a $450 billion investment in U.S. energy products.
Bahrain announced $17 billion in U.S. investment.
Taiwan announced a pledge to boost its U.S.-based investment.

[chaos]

Perhaps he was referring to this list?

lololololololololol

20 trillion haha

whats the us gdp again? you have to be a special type of guy to not realize how retarded this is.

lololololololololol
What's the canadian gdp again?

[Necrosis]

Perhaps he was referring to this list?

You realize how silly that list is right?

lets take the United arab emirates. they are going to invest 1.4 trillion are they? over ten years. There gdp as a country is 525 billion annual. That would be like saying the us plans to invest 95 trillion in china over ten years, do you not see how retarded that sounds? it will never occur and its the same shit zuckerberg did, make up a number. He was caught on a hot mic saying I am not sure what number you wanted me to say.

These are appeasements. Half the other investments are not new or related to trump. Manufacturing jobs are down month over month, where are these investments?

these are pledges, just like the trade "deals" he has, nothing.

if you look at the landscape of global trade, china because of tariffs has gained substantial foothold and almost all is partners have increased trading and moved away from the US. Protectionism is dumb and has never worked.

Trump is big on claims with little follow through. Just like these cheques that will never materialize. Empty promises.