Do you believe in life after death?

[joswift]

It's not magic, it's all physics.

And drugs are never the answer, that's why bodybuilding is the pursuit of vanity.

a tree is still a tree absent a mind to experience it.
If thats true then due to it existing absent a human mind then isnt it logical that there must be another mind apart from the human mind?

[MuscleBuff]

a tree is still a tree absent a mind to experience it.
If thats true then due to it existing absent a human mind then isnt it logical that there must be another mind apart from the human mind?

Read this statement 5 times, tried to understand it, but it just doesn't register

[joswift]

Read this statement 5 times, tried to understand it, but it just doesn't register

Give this 4 minutes of your time

[MuscleBuff]

Give this 4 minutes of your time

Ok I understand your statement now, but it just doesn't make any sense. A tree is just a result of natural processes

[joswift]

Ok I understand your statement now, but it just doesn't make any sense. A tree is just a result of natural processes

the natural process of the creation of a tree is a man made concept, so its subjectively true.

The tree itself is objectively true.

[BigRo]

I can tell you what doesn't arouse me; expired balding schmoe meat with a chip on its shoulder 

You lust over the young meat is what you are confessing. A have mountains not chips on my shoulders, I eat chips.

[Pet shop boys]

I believe you never really "die" ...
just as you have no clue or remember how or when you become "alive" same happens when you pass...
that unexplained phenome keeps happening again and again.



WoooSSSHHHHHHHHH and again

[Rambone]

Do you belieeeve in life after lurv?

[Humble Narcissist]

I believe you never really "die" ...
just as you have no clue or remember how or when you become "alive" same happens when you pass...
that unexplained phenome keeps happening again and again.



WoooSSSHHHHHHHHH and again

You could be reincarnated as a cockroach.

[joswift]

You could be reincarnated as a cockroach.

or an ant in pamiths garden, hopefully pamith isnt around with his magnifying glass in the summer

[BigRo]

Do you belieeeve in life after lurv?

Yes it is very peaceful.

[_bruce_]

There seems to be a lot of things going on in realms we can't really fathom. How this all plays into our fate after shedding our mortal shelf is quite debatable.
Every one of us has to see for themselves and face the biggest test - the unknown.

[Kwon]

Only one thing is certain though, is there Life after Getbig???'



NO!

[King Shizzo]

I've been there....

[MuscleBuff]

I've been there....

no you haven't fucking queer

[Humble Narcissist]

or an ant in pamiths garden, hopefully pamith isnt around with his magnifying glass in the summer

Yeah, you don't want that torture so be sure to only accumulate good karma.

[obsidian]

Ok I understand your statement now, but it just doesn't make any sense. A tree is just a result of natural processes

Why is there a natural process for a tree? Why is there a Universe? Let's assume there is nothing. No time, space, matter (atoms, etc.), no 4 forces - Gravity, Electromagnetism, Strong Nuclear Force, Weak Nuclear Force.

How do you get from nothing to a super dense and tiny mass concentration called the "Singularity" that "existed" before the Big Bang?! Note that you start with nothing. Now you need to conjure up the Singularity. Eventually you need the 4 fundamental forces. Why does mass have gravity?

[obsidian]

You could be reincarnated as a cockroach.

Argument Against Reincarnation

If we assume the universe has a creator or a creative intelligence behind its laws, reincarnation still doesn’t make sense — not philosophically, not scientifically, and not logically.

1. The Motivation Problem: Why would a creator design reincarnation?

People often say: “A tree is just the result of natural processes.”
Sure — but that assumes the natural processes themselves just exist.

Reincarnation is completely different. It requires the creator to intentionally design a system where souls jump between bodies.

What’s the purpose?

Common claim: “Souls reincarnate to learn lessons.”

But that falls apart:

• Why design a system where humans forget everything they supposedly learned?
• Why would someone reincarnate as an ant or cockroach — what lesson is learned there?
• Why is the system filled with randomness, trauma, and inequality?
• Why do different cultures invent totally contradictory rules for reincarnation?

A system without memory is not a learning system.
A purposeful creator would not design something so incoherent.

2. The Mechanism Problem: How would reincarnation actually work?

For reincarnation to be real, all of the following must exist:

• A soul independent of the brain
• A method for the soul to detach at death
• A method for it to enter another body
• Compatibility across completely different species

This fails immediately when you consider biology.

Human → Cockroach?
A cockroach has ~1 million neurons.
A human has ~86 billion.

That’s like trying to run Windows 11 on a calculator.

Human → Ant?
Even fewer neurons.

Human → Amoeba?
One cell. No brain at all.

There is no biological hardware to support consciousness, memory, or identity in these organisms.

Scientifically, there is no workable mechanism for reincarnation.

3. The Scale Problem: Population numbers destroy the theory

If all living beings reincarnate, consider actual biological quantities:

• Humans: ~8 billion
• Ants: ~20,000,000,000,000,000 (20 quadrillion)
• Cockroaches: trillions
• Amoebae: effectively infinite numbers

Reincarnation must explain:

• Where all the extra souls come from
• Why a human soul would spend billions of lifetimes as microbes
• Why humans are an extreme minority of “soul slots”
• How “moral lessons” fit into microbial lifetimes

No reincarnation system explains this.
It’s mathematically unworkable.

4. The Identity Problem: What is actually reincarnating?

If a person loses:

• memory
• personality
• emotion
• preferences
• consciousness
• cognitive abilities

…then what is left to “reincarnate”?

If nothing that makes you you carries over, then reincarnation is just the birth of a new organism with no real connection to the old one.

Calling that “you” is meaningless.

Conclusion

Even if a creator designed the universe:

• there is no rational motivation for reincarnation,
• no biological or physical mechanism behind it,
• no numerical or population-level scalability,
• and no coherent identity that survives from one life to another.

[AbrahamG]

[LurkerNoMore]

Energy is never destroyed.  It is converted from one form to another or transferred between systems.  Some believe the energy each of us has as humans follows this same logic.

[MuscleBuff]

Anyone who read the Bible should know prayer "doesn't work" and has never worked for anybody. It's always just stories of God fucking up people's shit or giving them unreasonable advantages, usually just to make a point.

[Super Nattie]

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