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Re: GOT IN A FIGHT YESTERDAY!!! BODYBUILDING HELPED!
« Reply #50 on: May 06, 2006, 07:27:37 PM »
 ::)   OK so believe it. you must be very imature to belive they'd hire him.

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« Reply #51 on: May 06, 2006, 07:28:12 PM »
  Alexxx is definitely large enough to be a bouncer and 21 is not a "kid" in a legal sense.
I'm not on other states but here in arizona you can work in a club at the age of 16 as a barback, and waitress at the age of 18.........

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« Reply #52 on: May 06, 2006, 07:29:22 PM »
I'm not on other states but here in arizona you can work in a club at the age of 16 as a barback, and waitress at the age of 18.........

  What is a "barback"? :o

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Re: GOT IN A FIGHT YESTERDAY!!! BODYBUILDING HELPED!
« Reply #53 on: May 06, 2006, 07:29:41 PM »
what's a barback?

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« Reply #54 on: May 06, 2006, 07:30:53 PM »
::)   OK so believe it. you must be very imature to belive they'd hire him.

  What reason is there not too? There is a demand for security and not every job candidate is a former green beret ::) You need......

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« Reply #55 on: May 06, 2006, 07:32:04 PM »
::)   OK so believe it. you must be very imature to belive they'd hire him.
ive seen guys smaller then you bouncing :-\

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« Reply #56 on: May 06, 2006, 07:32:18 PM »
he may or may not be of drinking age. and he's got the mind of a 13 year old.

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« Reply #57 on: May 06, 2006, 07:33:15 PM »
it's not his size. it's his youth/stupidity.

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« Reply #58 on: May 06, 2006, 07:33:35 PM »
ive seen guys smaller then you bouncing :-\

 Hahahahaha...ain't that the truth ;D. The demand for bouncers exceeds the supply of big beefy bodies ready and able to do the job.

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« Reply #59 on: May 06, 2006, 07:37:42 PM »
what's a barback?

bartender's assistant.  you bring in ice, refill the coolers, change kegs, etc.
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Re: GOT IN A FIGHT YESTERDAY!!! BODYBUILDING HELPED!
« Reply #60 on: May 06, 2006, 07:41:23 PM »
Derek Anthony?


Rug glued on, Pecs Bouncing, He's Ready to Rumble............. :-X

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« Reply #61 on: May 06, 2006, 07:42:19 PM »
bartender's assistant.  you bring in ice, refill the coolers, change kegs, etc.

 What country are you from? ???

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« Reply #62 on: May 06, 2006, 07:45:36 PM »
What country are you from? ???

have you never been in a bar?

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« Reply #63 on: May 06, 2006, 07:45:48 PM »
hard-kore.

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« Reply #64 on: May 06, 2006, 07:50:10 PM »
have you never been in a bar?

 Yes, once or twice.

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« Reply #65 on: May 06, 2006, 08:08:44 PM »
Actually they begged me to work there because I intimidate people and and huge. Everybody tells me I am huge :)

Wow, just wow..

Your just begging for a Sarcasm smearing..lol..I can smell it now...

No wonder you post so many pics. Alexx, go watch a local bodybuilding contest..actually, go do the Novice class, and when you wake up and smell the Coffee, come back.


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« Reply #66 on: May 06, 2006, 08:13:59 PM »
Wow, just wow..

Your just begging for a Sarcasm smearing..lol..I can smell it now...

No wonder you post so many pics. Alexx, go watch a local bodybuilding contest..actually, go do the Novice class, and when you wake up and smell the Coffee, come back.



  You don't know what you are talking about. I've seen him in person. He's larger than 99.9999999999999999999% of all humans who have ever lived. :o

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« Reply #67 on: May 06, 2006, 08:14:13 PM »
I bet Alexxx actually fought Dingleberry - this is how it prolly went down. Dingleberry is the taller guy with blue gloves - Alexxx is the small guy with red gloves who got owned

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« Reply #68 on: May 06, 2006, 08:42:14 PM »
  You don't know what you are talking about. I've seen him in person. He's larger than 99.9999999999999999999% of all humans who have ever lived. :o

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« Reply #69 on: May 06, 2006, 08:56:06 PM »
Bouncing at the club.  uh huh ya sure.
Buddy that frame of your wouldn't offer any intimitation.  Besides your fight tecnique is totally wrong as to what they teach bouncers.  Try again
Be honest and say you were bouncing at the arcade.

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« Reply #70 on: May 06, 2006, 09:23:08 PM »
Actually they begged me to work there because I intimidate people and and huge. Everybody tells me I am huge :)

Dude your a teachers assistant at an elementary school.  Of course you are huge to them.  Come on.

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« Reply #71 on: May 06, 2006, 09:53:13 PM »


I've been in the business for quite some time and I can tell you that you obviously don't know anything about bouncing and if you continue with the antics then you'll need a tuxedo for a funeral


When I work as a bouncer, the idea is to keep it cool.  Making a scene with drunks will only cause trouble for the customers.  When I had trouble, I kindly and politely escorted people outside and even called a cab for them if nessesary.  Alcohol makes people act differently than they normally do and you have to take it in consideration.  If the person wants to fight, simply put him to the ground, cuff him, help him up and politely escort the person out the building. 


So in other words, don't be a tough guy.  Be the smart guy

Oh god. Let me tell you the reality.  I highly doubt Vince you were a bouncer or doorman.  Maybe a waiter at best.    At least not a real club.  Not a gay club like Alexxx, or a ballroom dancing club or a AARP approved club, but a real club.  I have been a bouncer at many different clubs.  At let me say that you would not have been hired.  First off clubs hire mostly physical imposing people just so they could handle the situation like you stated above in the manner you described.  If at that point the person does not listen to reason and calming talk, then it could and usually does get physical.  That is where the size and number counts.  The problem with hiring smaller people would be the guys who are causing trouble are usually drunk.  They would not listen to you at all and most likely just get dumber and cause more problems.

Also, allot of times you are breaking up fights that are already going on between 2 or more people.  Talking DOES NOT work at all during this time.  You watched Roadhouse way to many times.  Being big also helps when you have to go up to somebody and ask them to leave.  They usually look at you and say "no problem" cause they don't want to test your size and strength.

Now allot of this may change when you have numbers.  If you have 5 or 6 bouncers behind you to back you up, then size prbably won't matter much in most instances.  I have plenty smaller guys that are bouncers that do very well, but they always have allot of good backup or some big guys working with them.

But, no matter what size is a huge advantage as a bouncer.  A big guy has the advantage in a crowded place.  I've been in situations where we literally had to close the club after an incident with just 4 guys.  There was 3 of us.  Just about table and chair in the place was down and out.  One of my partners literally grabbed a guy by the hiar and pulled him outside by the hair.  His hoar kept coming out and he kept grabbing more.  This guys head was bleeding everywhere.  That was the worse time as a bouncer I had.  The club was a country western club in Torrance, Ca.  It was very big, at least 30,000 sq.ft. and held a few hundred people.  The guy ended up sueing the club and us and the owner and he ended up winning.  The club closed and it cost the owner allot of money.

We kicked out some Lennox Sheriff's that were off-duty at Tequilla WIllies which was LA's #1 club for 2 years.  They were grabbing girls as they walked by.  When me, Ron Gibson, Bob Sears and Jim Flarety went up to them to tell them they were out (we watched them for a few minutes so we could witness what was happening) they told us the were Sheriff's.  We siad who cares you are out.  OUtside they told us we were lucky they were off duty.  I said "no you're lucky you told you were cops, cause you would be laying on the ground right now."  They were really rude to us inside after telling them to leave.  One guy was an real asshole and he said well maybe we'll come back when were on duty.  I said "come back tommorrow we all will be here".  They never came back but I did see that asshole on COPS a few times. 

Also, I never had a club teach you how to fight or handle yourself.  I know someone mentioned this.  And working at strips clubs is a whole other story.  I mean ones with 6'6"+ drunk samoans and tongans.  What fun.

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« Reply #72 on: May 06, 2006, 11:24:12 PM »
Oh god. Let me tell you the reality.  I highly doubt Vince you were a bouncer or doorman.  Maybe a waiter at best.    At least not a real club.  Not a gay club like Alexxx, or a ballroom dancing club or a AARP approved club, but a real club.  I have been a bouncer at many different clubs.  At let me say that you would not have been hired.  First off clubs hire mostly physical imposing people just so they could handle the situation like you stated above in the manner you described.  If at that point the person does not listen to reason and calming talk, then it could and usually does get physical.  That is where the size and number counts.  The problem with hiring smaller people would be the guys who are causing trouble are usually drunk.  They would not listen to you at all and most likely just get dumber and cause more problems.

Also, allot of times you are breaking up fights that are already going on between 2 or more people.  Talking DOES NOT work at all during this time.  You watched Roadhouse way to many times.  Being big also helps when you have to go up to somebody and ask them to leave.  They usually look at you and say "no problem" cause they don't want to test your size and strength.

Now allot of this may change when you have numbers.  If you have 5 or 6 bouncers behind you to back you up, then size prbably won't matter much in most instances.  I have plenty smaller guys that are bouncers that do very well, but they always have allot of good backup or some big guys working with them.

But, no matter what size is a huge advantage as a bouncer.  A big guy has the advantage in a crowded place.  I've been in situations where we literally had to close the club after an incident with just 4 guys.  There was 3 of us.  Just about table and chair in the place was down and out.  One of my partners literally grabbed a guy by the hiar and pulled him outside by the hair.  His hoar kept coming out and he kept grabbing more.  This guys head was bleeding everywhere.  That was the worse time as a bouncer I had.  The club was a country western club in Torrance, Ca.  It was very big, at least 30,000 sq.ft. and held a few hundred people.  The guy ended up sueing the club and us and the owner and he ended up winning.  The club closed and it cost the owner allot of money.

We kicked out some Lennox Sheriff's that were off-duty at Tequilla WIllies which was LA's #1 club for 2 years.  They were grabbing girls as they walked by.  When me, Ron Gibson, Bob Sears and Jim Flarety went up to them to tell them they were out (we watched them for a few minutes so we could witness what was happening) they told us the were Sheriff's.  We siad who cares you are out.  OUtside they told us we were lucky they were off duty.  I said "no you're lucky you told you were cops, cause you would be laying on the ground right now."  They were really rude to us inside after telling them to leave.  One guy was an real asshole and he said well maybe we'll come back when were on duty.  I said "come back tommorrow we all will be here".  They never came back but I did see that asshole on COPS a few times. 

Also, I never had a club teach you how to fight or handle yourself.  I know someone mentioned this.  And working at strips clubs is a whole other story.  I mean ones with 6'6"+ drunk samoans and tongans.  What fun.



First off, I've been working in the security and criminal justice industry going on 10 years now.  I've done security work for numerous places such as the Atlanta Falcons, worked a few clubs on the side as a bouncer, and worked as a correctional officer for Greenville County.  I honestly don't care whether you believe it or not but you are more than welcome to contact the South Carolina Law Enforcement Division Office if you like to eat your words.


Now, Roadhouse is a great example as to how to work in a club.  Its all about  customer service, not serving an ass-whipping.  The customer go there to have fun, they SPEND MONEY BUYING FOOD, THE CLUBS SERVES THEM DRINKS!!.  Therefore, if a person gets drunk and acts like a fool, technically its the clubs fault for serving him too much and not cutting him or her off at the proper time.  As a club bouncer, it is your responsibility to make sure the person gets home safely without getting in trouble as well as not disturbing the responsible drinkers.  I rarely have confrontations because I approach situations as a mediator and friend rather than some Brooklyn Brawler.  Sometimes force has to be used, but only after you've exhausted your "verbal judo".  In most cases, they'll thank you for calling them a cab and you get to go home without a scratch.  You've solved the problem without having to lift a finger


That's life pal, and people forget that even if you manage to throw someone out and rough him up, what makes you sure he won't come back with a gun and start shooting.   


I no longer work as a bouncer and only do small bit security work since my nutritional business is growing but for anyone who wants to work in the industry, I'd suggest you learn how to talk to people first.



P.S.  Size has nothing to do really with working in a club but actually I'm a pretty big guy just to let you know
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Re: GOT IN A FIGHT YESTERDAY!!! BODYBUILDING HELPED!
« Reply #73 on: May 06, 2006, 11:28:58 PM »
BODYBUILDING OBVIOUSLY HELPED DOG THE BOUNTY HUNTER AS WELL.  There's my two cents. 

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Re: GOT IN A FIGHT YESTERDAY!!! BODYBUILDING HELPED!
« Reply #74 on: May 07, 2006, 04:32:29 AM »
The story's about bouncers hitting the hell out of customers are bullshit. I wouldn't want to work in a place were you have to charge on weekly basis.

The point of being a bouncer is as Vince stated, to let customers have a good time. That starts out at the door. Every bar has got his usual customers,
if you find out somebody is difficult to handle you don't let him in for a couple of weeks, if he's still difficult, you deny him the place at all. And not only at your bar, but at every bar in the neighberhood. That's not difficult to accomplish.
Once inside, make sure you have an emergencyroom and a chillout room. Sometimes customers tend to get very aggressive on a small thing like a drink on somebodies shirt. If you find out it's escaliting, take them both  away from the scene make a talk, and after that it's usually okay. Sometimes the offender pays some money for cleaning or buys him a drink and that's it.

Once in a while, and I'm talking once a month or once every three weeks, something explodes and there is only one way to break up, and that's the hard way.
Break up, you take a couple of them to the chillout room, you send the other away after taking pictures and call the police and/or ambulance. But it ain't on weekly basis, and it shouldn't be. Going out is time to have fun, not to kick each others asses.

You're a proffesional bouncer, not a mma-fighter. Size helps, but making proper agreements with bouncers from other bars, waitressess and people at the bar so you won't have a mess.