2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"

[Van_Bilderass]

Are you fucking shitting me dude, have you even read the MOU? Geez dude, we just gave them everything. I really don’t understand how you spin this as a victory, what we are dealing with right now. Help me see what it is I’m missing because I just can’t find the light in this situation.

Exactly, I'm surprised Coach isn't calling for Trump to reverse this like the usual "right wing" Fox News new Maga warmongers are doing currently. You know, "the Iranians can't ever be trusted, they were just on the brink of collapsing, please resume the bombing Mr Trump!" This is what Coach was saying just a few days ago, more bombs were going to solve the situation for sure.

EDIT. I mean just take a look at these beauties. FFS! as Coach often replies himself. Now Coach is agreeing with the deal and saying this is a win for the US?!

I disagree with extending the ceasefire no matter what the reason is. Stop the negotiations, keep the blockade and fucking level the rest of what needs to be leveled and end the bloodlines of the proxies

1. How is Iran "humiliating" us? We know you're rooting for Iran win to this, but militarily they lost the in the first week or two and are losing $500mil a day, their economy is all but dead. Even their inflation is approaching 100%.

Trump went in and negotiated and is still negotiating with them ad nauseam knowing they would never follow any kind of deal nuclear. They have NEVER kept their word be it in writing or other wise. He has crippled their economy, losing over $500mil a day and their inflation is at almost 100%. They don't care what happens to their own people in an economic sense and they're still executing people. We've negotiated with them since 1979. IMO, although I know Trump is just playing playing the wait game by letting their total economy dry up I personally think we should just go in level what needs to be leveled and kill who needs to be killed. Despite popular belief, they don't control the Straight. 47 years of "negotiating" Enough negotiating. Go in and end it.

You morons

 

[illuminati]

We all have pronouns you absolute moron. Mine are sir and he, fuckwit.

The difference between what you are saying and what I am saying is that you are making up shit while I am stating a fact. You competed for the male gaze, oiled up at that.

It's super gay.

Only you insist on you're pronouns.

Just because your shitty boy Physique wasn't good enough to compete
you have to hate on those of us that did at that's a fair few on this board.

I know why don't you go back to threatening me with physical violence 
That should be well worth a laugh or Coming to my address I'm still
her waiting with a double barrel shotgun for you or weren't you going
to the police about me??

You're so full full of threats yet do Fuck all apart from cry & wimper.


you're an out & out Poofter.

[Coach is Back!]

What an utter failure and capitulation. Embarrassing loss.

Iran is celebrating this fumble and I heard Greenland is asking trump to invade.

Trump literally said they can't get at their nuclear dust from the attack last year yesterday, meanwhile, that was the justification for attacking them.

He is unfreezing more assets then obama and they now have a chip they didnt with the straight of hormuz. You have to be a real sycophant to try and spin this as a win.

You literally or neither anyone else, even though I posted the entire Presser, didn't watch one minute of it.

[Coach is Back!]

No, we just read the MOU that is getting signed.  Its not a long or difficult read, there’s no need for anyone to explain it.

Reading and interpreting it are two different things. The fact you didn't bother listening to its interpretation means 1. You're too lazy to listen or 2. You don't really want to know and either draw you're own conclusions or have someone else do it for you.

[Coach is Back!]

Are you fucking shitting me dude, have you even read the MOU? Geez dude, we just gave them everything. I really don’t understand how you spin this as a victory, what we are dealing with right now. Help me see what it is I’m missing because I just can’t find the light in this situation.

Listen to the GD press conference.

[GymnJuice]

Try to look at this deal without emotion or zero sum thinking. The idea that Iran has to “lose” for America to “win.”

Pulling out is a genuinely good thing. We shouldn’t have been there in the first place, but the silver lining is that this wasn’t the catastrophic mess we saw in Iraq or Afghanistan. If $300 billion ends up going to Iran, it’s not coming out of American taxpayers pockets like those earlier wars. It’s coming from Gulf countries. And if Iran institutes a toll on the Strait, it mainly hurts the Arab exporters and the Chinese who buy their oil. We don’t rely on that waterway anyway.

Yes, Iran is coming out in a stronger position, but they’ll still be checked by their natural regional rivals. From my perspective, America stepping back and Trump speaking plainly to Israel is real progress.

I’m not viewing this as Trump winning or Iran winning. I’m looking at it as an ordinary American. Whether Iran has more money doesn’t keep me up at night. It didn’t before, and it doesn’t now

[Rambone]

This war was fake and gay from the start. It achieved nothing and made Iran stronger and made the U.S. look like Gomer Pyle. I’m glad my tax dollars funded this thing and will continue to fund shitty big-nosed Middle Eastern countries like Iran and Israel. Once again, fake and gay.

[BB]

What type of mental gymnastics does it take to see this - https://www.foxnews.com/politics/read-it-full-text-us-iran-memorandum-understanding , as a win? This isn't even a tie. It's a rout by the Iranians. We are giving them far more respect than they had, tons of money, and far less oversight. They, for their part, are handing us back a far shittier version of what we already had.

We claim it's different because we are in a position of power? Really, then why were we begging for an agreement for weeks? We have 3rd worlders laughing at us, questioning our position as a superpower.

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Also this whole bit about the Gulf States paying 300 billion is cute, it still diminishes us. $300 billion to a US enemy buys the payer a lot of leverage and ear time in US politics. AIPAC on one side, Saudis on the other, America in the middle, like 'Whadda ya want from me?".

[chaos]

Try to look at this deal without emotion or zero sum thinking. The idea that Iran has to “lose” for America to “win.”

Pulling out is a genuinely good thing. We shouldn’t have been there in the first place, but the silver lining is that this wasn’t the catastrophic mess we saw in Iraq or Afghanistan. If $300 billion ends up going to Iran, it’s not coming out of American taxpayers pockets like those earlier wars. It’s coming from Gulf countries. And if Iran institutes a toll on the Strait, it mainly hurts the Arab exporters and the Chinese who buy their oil. We don’t rely on that waterway anyway.

Yes, Iran is coming out in a stronger position, but they’ll still be checked by their natural regional rivals. From my perspective, America stepping back and Trump speaking plainly to Israel is real progress.

I’m not viewing this as Trump winning or Iran winning. I’m looking at it as an ordinary American. Whether Iran has more money doesn’t keep me up at night. It didn’t before, and it doesn’t now

How dare you bring logic into this?!?!!?

Kill them all!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Necrosis]

Only you insist on you're pronouns.

Just because your shitty boy Physique wasn't good enough to compete
you have to hate on those of us that did at that's a fair few on this board.

I know why don't you go back to threatening me with physical violence 
That should be well worth a laugh or Coming to my address I'm still
her waiting with a double barrel shotgun for you or weren't you going
to the police about me??

You're so full full of threats yet do Fuck all apart from cry & wimper.


you're an out & out Poofter.

You are an actual weirdo. Aren't you a geriatric ?

You obviously can't discern a joke, perhaps you are mentally handicapped?

[Necrosis]

Try to look at this deal without emotion or zero sum thinking. The idea that Iran has to “lose” for America to “win.”

Pulling out is a genuinely good thing. We shouldn’t have been there in the first place, but the silver lining is that this wasn’t the catastrophic mess we saw in Iraq or Afghanistan. If $300 billion ends up going to Iran, it’s not coming out of American taxpayers pockets like those earlier wars. It’s coming from Gulf countries. And if Iran institutes a toll on the Strait, it mainly hurts the Arab exporters and the Chinese who buy their oil. We don’t rely on that waterway anyway.

Yes, Iran is coming out in a stronger position, but they’ll still be checked by their natural regional rivals. From my perspective, America stepping back and Trump speaking plainly to Israel is real progress.

I’m not viewing this as Trump winning or Iran winning. I’m looking at it as an ordinary American. Whether Iran has more money doesn’t keep me up at night. It didn’t before, and it doesn’t now

Gas/oil is a global commodity, them tolling can cause increases in gas prices worldwide, that's not a fair argument.

Making the stronger is a loss no matter what way you cut it. Your position "that regional rivals will check them" was exactly the same position previous to the war except Iran was weaker, how is that logical?

Iran are getting a sweetheart deal and it's because of trumps brutal miscalculation.

[LurkerNoMore]

Told ya

We already know that the spin from Trumpy is as retarded as you are. 

[LurkerNoMore]

You morons will take it from a second, third or fourth party source who call themselves “journalists” instead of getting it straight from the horses mouths. Fucking amazing. It’s not a wonder why most of you literally get everything wrong

The horses mouth is as uncredible and dishonest as you are.  Then again you also believed MyPillowGuy and Alex Jones.  Dumbass.

[LurkerNoMore]

I woke up with Danimal on my mind today.

We know Little Bitch.  We know.

[illuminati]

You are an actual weirdo. Aren't you a geriatric ?

You obviously can't discern a joke, perhaps you are mentally handicapped?

Pronoun Boy

You poofter - changing your tune now are you 🙄

And you will have to try much harder if you are trying to insult me.

Carry on being the poofter you are.

[LurkerNoMore]

Are you fucking shitting me dude, have you even read the MOU? Geez dude, we just gave them everything. I really don’t understand how you spin this as a victory, what we are dealing with right now. Help me see what it is I’m missing because I just can’t find the light in this situation.

Qoach continues to live up to his reputation as the biggest retard on this board.  That extra chromosome just kicks his short ass daily.   

Trumpy can’t even win the war against algae right now.  He’s a laughing stock right now.  He just reminded the world that how under pressure he jumps to short term distractions and “wins” over long term strategy and benefits.  Total surrender.  Even Pence resurfaces to point out how pathetic it is. 

Next week when the spotlight gets too harsh watch JD start getting blamed.  I thought Kash would be fired before Pete but not so sure now.  Somebody has to take the blame. 

[herne]

[Necrosis]

Pronoun Boy

You poofter - changing your tune now are you 🙄

And you will have to try much harder if you are trying to insult me.

Carry on being the poofter you are.

Poofter?

my tune has never changed. I think its absurd you posed with your ass out. If you are near death old I can go easy on you.

[Griffith]

There's nothing positive at all here for the US.

They got duped by Israel and now Iran is even better off than before.

[GymnJuice]

Gas/oil is a global commodity, them tolling can cause increases in gas prices worldwide, that's not a fair argument.

Making the stronger is a loss no matter what way you cut it. Your position "that regional rivals will check them" was exactly the same position previous to the war except Iran was weaker, how is that logical?

Iran are getting a sweetheart deal and it's because of trumps brutal miscalculation.

Oil is a global commodity, but thanks to fracking, the US is now a net exporter. We don’t rely on the oil that flows through the strait, so disruptions there don’t hit us nearly as hard as they do countries that actually buy it.

I don’t view a stronger Iran as some major loss for America. I’ve long believed we should get out of the middle east entirely. Whether Iran is stronger or weaker doesn’t change my assessment of this situation as a win or loss. I simply have no horse in the fight between Iran and Israel. My priority is US disengagement.

I agree Trump miscalculated by getting pulled into this conflict in the first place. That said, if it leads to us getting out now, it’s far less damaging than the open ended disasters of Iraq and Afghanistan. It’s still a blunder, but at least it doesn’t lock us into decades of entanglement like so many past foreign policy decisions from both parties.

I've said before that Trump should own his mistake, take the L, and move on. This deal is about as close as we're going to get to that. Trump simply isn’t the type to publicly admit he blundered. (Did Kennedy ever admit the Bay of Pigs was a mistake? Has any US president ever fully owned up to Vietnam?) Some people won’t be satisfied unless he makes a public confession, but that’s just not going to happen. At least with this deal, the costs fall on other countries rather than the United States.

[Griffith]

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/read-it-full-text-us-iran-memorandum-understanding

LOLOL

6. The United States of America undertakes with regional partners to develop a definitive mutually agreed plan with at least USD 300 billion for the reconstruction and economic development of the Islamic Republic of Iran. The mechanism for the implementation of this plan will be finalized as part of a final deal within 60 days. All required licenses, waivers and permissions needed for the relevant financial transactions will be granted by the United States of America.

7. The United States of America undertakes to terminate all types of sanctions against the Islamic Republic of Iran, including the United Nations Security Council resolutions, IAEA Board of Governors resolutions and all unilateral U.S. sanctions, primary and secondary, in an agreed upon schedule as part of the final deal. The Islamic Republic of Iran and the United States of America acknowledge the critical importance of the sanctions termination issue above mentioned and express their intentions to immediately address these issues in the negotiations in order to achieve mutual agreement on them.

Iran is way stronger because of this, money, unfrozen assets, sanctions lifted and able to sell their oil LOLOLOLOL

 

[Van_Bilderass]

I've said before that Trump should own his mistake, take the L, and move on.

I just watched a bit of clip with Douglas McGregor, and without looking up his creds, I think knows Trump and has advised Trump previously, and he says Trump has actually shown great courage with this deal considering the intense pressure he faces in the US from the Jews. He does however question whether he can withstand the pressure coming from the Jews now, since they own the media, own all the politicians; it will take extreme courage now that they will mobilize against him. Douglas also says he thinks Trump is now at great risk of being assassinated and this has been echoed by many others recently.

Israel has also said Turkey is next after Iran. McGregor says the Iranians are rational people and businessmen (unlike what people like Coach feel), but the Turks on the other hand are martial people, natural born warriors, and if you start conflict with them they will fight to the end. Israel and the US should want none of that. McGregor says in the past he used to travel to Israel for years and always told them Iran should not be such a worry to them since you can deal with them, the Turks are different matter, which doesn't mean to start a war.

I didn't watch the presser but apparently Vance said this:

"Donald J. Trump is the ONLY head of state in the ENTIRE WORLD who is sympathetic to the nation of Israel at this moment in time, and he happens to be the head of state of the world superpower.

If I was in the cabinet of the Israeli government, I might not be attacking the only powerful ally that I have ANYWHERE left in the entire world."

"The other thing that I would say is that over the last 3 months, TWO-THIRDS of the defensive weapons that have protected your homeland have been built by AMERICAN HANDS and paid for by AMERICAN TAX DOLLARS.

The problem for Israel is not Donald J. Trump, and anybody in Israel who thinks their biggest problem is the President of the United States needs to WAKE UP and smell the reality of the situation that country is in."



This is the new MAGA. Laura Loomer is an unofficial advisor to president Trump and has influence on who to hire and fire for the administration and other gov agencies.
These Jews will put intense pressure on Trump now, it's all about Israel for them.

[Rambone]

The upcoming retarded boomer victory spin speeches will be cringey at best. Trump included.


Initial public reaction has not been positive 

[Van_Bilderass]

I missed it but apparently Trump just said himself what I was saying earlier, the MOU was due to the oil situation, "if we kept bombing Iran we would have run out in 4 weeks, you want to see bedlam?"

BTW it's not like turning on a faucet, it may already be too late. Oil infrastructure may be damaged to a degree. The insurance companies for the tankers may also be skeptical for a good while (mines, still a risk of flare up).

The upcoming retarded boomer victory spin speeches will be cringey at best. Trump included.

Initial public reaction has not been positive 

I heard Fox news is also very negative 

Again I'm really surprised Coach is supportive seeing as he's such a Zionist and even the reliable and objective non-fake Fox news is against this.

Oh that American Patriot Mark Levin... Times of Israel quotes CNN:

[chaos]

Right wingers don't support giving our money to isreal.