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Re: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"
« Reply #476 on: March 10, 2026, 12:31:33 PM »
Cliffs... I have a life. If you can't sum it up in a paragraph or less it usually mean's you can't answer on your own.

That makes absolutely zero sense. The more you elaborate, the less you have thought about it? You just can't defend your crap, you'd rather just misrepresent by calling me a Muslim or a leftist.

Their entire radical Islamic culture is LITERALLY the complete opposite of what they supposedly hate, its culture of homosexuality, pedophilia and incest.

"LITERALLY" LOL.

What's a better place for those groups, Iran or Israel?


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Re: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"
« Reply #477 on: March 10, 2026, 12:34:39 PM »
Cliffs... I have a life. If you can't sum it up in a paragraph or less it usually mean's you can't answer on your own.

I don't often read Van's long winded posts only I did this one & It's worth
reading he makes some very good valid points.
for you to just dismiss it would not be fair or leave you in a good position
of understanding his points.

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Re: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"
« Reply #478 on: March 10, 2026, 12:52:56 PM »
I do think Trump brings the humor every day.

Reporter: "You said the war is very complete. But your defense secretary says this is just the beginning. So which is it?"

Trump: "You could say both."

Reporter: "You just suggested Iran got its hands on a tomahawk and bombed its own elementary school. You’re the only person in your government saying this. Why?"

Trump: "Because I just don’t know enough about it"

Trump: "I believe upon information and belief… but I believe that he was going to… they [Iran] were gonna take over the Middle East. They were looking to take over the Middle East."

"VERY COMPLETE, PRETTY MUCH"

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Re: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"
« Reply #479 on: March 10, 2026, 12:54:31 PM »
I do think Trump brings the humor every day.

Reporter: "You said the war is very complete. But your defense secretary says this is just the beginning. So which is it?"

Trump: "You could say both."

Reporter: "You just suggested Iran got its hands on a tomahawk and bombed its own elementary school. You’re the only person in your government saying this. Why?"

Trump: "Because I just don’t know enough about it"

Trump: "I believe upon information and belief… but I believe that he was going to… they [Iran] were gonna take over the Middle East. They were looking to take over the Middle East."

"VERY COMPLETE, PRETTY MUCH"

Lmao!!

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Re: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"
« Reply #480 on: March 10, 2026, 12:55:41 PM »
That makes absolutely zero sense. The more you elaborate, the less you have thought about it? You just can't defend your crap, you'd rather just misrepresent by calling me a Muslim or a leftist.

"LITERALLY" LOL.

What's a better place for those groups, Iran or Israel?

Yes..literally

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Re: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"
« Reply #481 on: March 10, 2026, 01:44:09 PM »
Literally everything I've read based on your postings suggests otherwise.

Another example.  If it were not for bullshit and CTs you would not have a single thought in your head.

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Re: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"
« Reply #482 on: March 10, 2026, 01:45:09 PM »
I want to add to what I said bout Hitler. Although Hitler was right about the Jews he was a terrible man and was responsible for a lot of death, for example slavs. I don't celebrate that, I don't celebrate indiscriminate killing of Jews or anyone. However, I think it's ridiculous that it's acceptable for Jews to openly say genocide is righteous, and I'm not just talking about the recent situation. I'm talking about what the religion says. I'm talking about the greater Israel project which necessitates doing something about 100 or 150 million people. While Hitler apparently didn't have problems with killing people or eradicating Jews from Europe he didn't go as far as what these religionists believe. Then when someone says something even remotely positive about Hitler or just criticizes Jews it's an outrage. It's like Jews are in a special category.

I think Iran threatened Israel's ability to take over the whole ME. Iran desperately sought good relations with the US but since Israel decides US foreign policy Iran would have to stop supporting the Palestinians. I see Israel as the big threat to the world. The Ayatollah had a fatwa against nukes since he said they were immoral. Israel has nukes and has no type of prohibition against using them, in fact they have the Samson Option.

Since I'm not American I can't say what the US should be.

Not only are you 100% correct here, but you will probably be killed in your sleep for saying this.

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Re: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"
« Reply #483 on: March 10, 2026, 01:45:58 PM »
US foreign policy should be coldly rational and impartial. Judge every nation solely by whether it advances the security and prosperity of average Americans ignoring religion, culture, history, or ideology.

All relationships must be transactional. Support only when clear benefits outweigh costs. No sentiment based alliances. In the Middle East we should treat Israel, Saudi Arabia, and Turkey the same way with no favorites.

The US Israel tie is currently overweighted. Israel delivers value but the massive aid, diplomatic protection, and political capital often exceed net returns for Americans while creating unnecessary costs elsewhere.

Foreign policy exists to deliver results for Americans. We should support what works and drop what doesn’t.

You will probably be killed in your bed for saying all this too.

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Re: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"
« Reply #484 on: March 10, 2026, 01:55:09 PM »
GymnJuice is not suicidal.

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Re: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"
« Reply #485 on: March 10, 2026, 01:57:33 PM »
GymnJuice is not suicidal.

They will make it look accidental-ish.  Not Clinton-ish.

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Re: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"
« Reply #486 on: March 10, 2026, 02:16:38 PM »




Trump nailed this pick. A 9/11 survivor and Epstein Island visitor. Drain the swamp. Amirite?

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Re: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"
« Reply #487 on: March 10, 2026, 03:22:46 PM »
Not only are you 100% correct here, but you will probably be killed in your sleep for saying this.
You will probably be killed in your bed for saying all this too.
In other words you've snitched to your handlers.
Liar!!!!Filt!!!!

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Re: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"
« Reply #488 on: March 10, 2026, 04:56:26 PM »
Cliffs... I have a life. If you can't sum it up in a paragraph or less it usually mean's you can't answer on your own.


It’ll take two minutes to read, which is less time than it takes to watch one of the videos you post and ask Lurker “did you not watch the video?”  I’d like to hear/read your thoughts on Vans post because it has some valid points.

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Re: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"
« Reply #489 on: March 10, 2026, 04:58:05 PM »

It’ll take two minutes to read, which is less time than it takes to watch one of the videos you post and ask Lurker “did you not watch the video?”  I’d like to hear/read your thoughts on Vans post because it has some valid points.

You think he’s going to take the time away from watching Bongino and Hannity?

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Re: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"
« Reply #490 on: March 10, 2026, 05:24:09 PM »
You will probably be killed in your bed for saying all this too.

Jokes on them brotato. I've had combat yoga training. I am vigilant even in my sleep.

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Re: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"
« Reply #491 on: March 10, 2026, 05:33:53 PM »
I want to add to what I said bout Hitler. Although Hitler was right about the Jews he was a terrible man and was responsible for a lot of death, for example slavs. I don't celebrate that, I don't celebrate indiscriminate killing of Jews or anyone. However, I think it's ridiculous that it's acceptable for Jews to openly say genocide is righteous, and I'm not just talking about the recent situation. I'm talking about what the religion says. I'm talking about the greater Israel project which necessitates doing something about 100 or 150 million people. While Hitler apparently didn't have problems with killing people or eradicating Jews from Europe he didn't go as far as what these religionists believe. Then when someone says something even remotely positive about Hitler or just criticizes Jews it's an outrage. It's like Jews are in a special category.

I think Iran threatened Israel's ability to take over the whole ME. Iran desperately sought good relations with the US but since Israel decides US foreign policy Iran would have to stop supporting the Palestinians. I see Israel as the big threat to the world. The Ayatollah had a fatwa against nukes since he said they were immoral. Israel has nukes and has no type of prohibition against using them, in fact they have the Samson Option.

Since I'm not American I can't say what the US should be.

If you’re trying not to get banned by Ron, might not want to start with “Although Hitler was right about the Jews…”

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Re: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"
« Reply #492 on: March 10, 2026, 05:43:56 PM »
You think he’s going to take the time away from watching Bongino and Hannity?

This was funny though. We could do without text wall unless they come with Thunder Bay updates.

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Re: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"
« Reply #493 on: March 10, 2026, 09:40:34 PM »
Hmm, I don't know if I can answer this with a reasonably short reply because you you raise several things I'd like to elaborate on. You have complained of walls of text you don't have the patience to read when I do. You also said I have no original thoughts as if I copy pasted everything (which is something you like to do). But I'll write something anyway. I answered you accusation of being Muslim but it should have been obvious I wasn't anyway. I am not Muslim and I think Muslims should stay in their countries of which there are many Ok, not a Muslim but a Muslim (Radical Muslim) sympathizer, fair enough? but due to a large part Jewish designs we in Europe have been infested with them. Since I'm not Christian perhaps it isn't fair of me to say what Christianity is or should be but I do have some knowledge of the bible due to my upbringing. In general, most Christians do not get excited by killing and genocide, bloodlust doesn't seem very Christian to me even if I were to agree Christ wasn't a pacifist. Your Holy Father has sought understanding with Muslim leaders, I hope you aren't ignorant of this No, I'm not. Big difference between Muslims and radical IslamistsMuslims see Jesus as a prophet and they honor Mary. Do Jews? Jews say Mary was a whore. Really? All Jews say that? Even Christian Messianic Jews? Interesting!

Now as to Hamas, they aren't very cowardly by most metrics. They self sacrifice to an insane degree. Men can give credit to good enemies. When I saw Hamas leader Yahia Sinwar, a man born into a refugee camp, swatting off an Israeli drone in his last moments, with one arm already blown off with a wire around it, I didn't see a coward Hamas, Hezbollah, etc are in fact cowards in the sense that they purposely and intentionally go after civilian targets, use women and children as human shields, place their military installations in hospitals, schools, civilian neighborhoods just as they did this last week and not using identifying uniforms all that would add up to war crimes. Giving one or two examples of individuals fighting for their lives because they had no choice doesn't mean they weren't cowards Compare a man like that to Donald Trump, a man born into luxury, who used his connections with his Jewish doctor neighbor to get deferments from the Vietnam war and then tell me who is a coward. This couldn't be more irrelevant The IDF has command and control HQ under a building which is situated among civilian apartment buildings. Do you think this is cowardly? Since you raised the point I think you should take thee trouble of seeing an IDF spokesman confirm it here. From 6:25 Curious why at the 9:20 mark they went on to another guest and didn't let Conricus finish
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Saying Iran is the #1 supporter of terrorism is just something people who are very ignorant say. As I've said many times, which you'll ignore again, unfortunately even the US sponsors a lot of terrorist groups all the time. Iran is absolutely the #1 terrorist sponsored state to the US and Israel. We are the only two countries they pledge to destroy and "wipe off the map"Iran has been fighting radical Sunni Islamists for a long time, groups like ISIS, Al-Qaeda and so on. Israel and the US sponsors them. Why do you think Al-Qaeda just released a statement they support Israel against Iran in this war? They absolutely did not. Good God

I do think you are pretty ignorant Islamic cultures in general. Not that I'm very knowledgeable but you seem to have just the most base and ignorant opinions and you are very sure of them. What I find ridiculous is how you are so blind to Jewish culture. If you think it's just Muslims who are hateful and terroristic, maybe you'd like to see this clip on what Jewish kids are taught in schools in Israel.
https://x.com/tw_tayyab/status/2029471569614123063

These people hate Christians, especially Catholics such as yourself. It beggars belief that you support them when they think you are cattle and your only worth is being a slave to them. This is pure ignorance, Holy shit

Jesus said "it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich person to enter the kingdom of God." This picture was something I thought interesting, what the US wants to install in Iran vs what was. The Ayatollah reportedly lived in modest quarters, plus he forbade his relatives to go into business due it's corrupting nature being in their position. Compare to Trump and all his greed and gold and flashy things and his relatives' business ventures. His and his nephew's plans to build real estate on the bones of Palestinian women and children.

Bottom line here is that you and I will never agree on this or probably anything politically related. I'm not trying to change anyone's mind those that agree with you already had their minds made up about Israel. I'll state right here, If this were another President you would be for it. Guaranteed

I can literally counter all day long and back it but again lets face it,  It would do no good. The fact that you think Iran and radical Islam, who in fact have killed thousands of Americans and their own people over the last 47 years (at least) oppressed and raped women (they are an in the closet culture of homosexuality) forced children as young as 9 years old into marriage (they don't deny pedophilia), killed Christians and Jews and as of late over 35, 000 protesters, and now their women's soccer team had to seek asylum In Australia (Thanks to Trump) because they refused to sing the Iranian national anthem and now their afraid of being killed.

These are are your people. These are the ones you support. Congratulations on setting your moral standards of human dignity as low as radical islamists. Bud, you should really check your sources but I could bury you in real facts all day long, but again, it wouldn't make a difference.

“No, Al-Qaeda’s central leadership (the core group under figures like Saif al-Adel) has not released any official statement supporting Israel over Iran. In fact, recent statements from Al-Qaeda central frame ongoing U.S. and Israeli military actions against Iran (including strikes and the reported killing of Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei in early 2026) as part of a broader “Zionist-Crusader” aggression against Muslim lands.

These calls urge jihad against U.S. and Israeli forces/assets in the region, such as attacking aircraft carriers, while avoiding direct endorsement of Iran due to sectarian tensions but effectively positioning resistance to Israel and the U.S. as a unifying Muslim cause.

For example:
•  A recent Al-Qaeda General Command statement (circulated via channels like trackingterrorism.org) describes U.S./Israeli buildups and actions as efforts to occupy Muslim territories, calling for attacks on American naval and other assets without naming Iran explicitly as the party to defend—but the context signals opposition to the strikes on Iran and alignment against the common “Zionist-Crusader” enemy.
•  This fits Al-Qaeda’s pattern: They praise Palestinian/Hamas actions against Israel, condemn Israeli aggression in Gaza and beyond, and opportunistically downplay Sunni-Shia divides to rally against the U.S. and Israel when it suits their narrative.
Claims of Al-Qaeda “supporting Israel against Iran” stem from viral social media posts and videos (widely shared on X/Twitter in early March 2026), often attributing a statement or video to a TTP (Tehrik-i-Taliban Pakistan) Shura commander named Qari Khalid (aka Ashna). These allege he declared support for Israel against Iran, calling Iran a “seditious state” conspiring against Muslims and saying “whoever acts against Iran, be it Israel or anyone else, we fully support them.”

However:
•  TTP is an Al-Qaeda affiliate (pledged bay’ah to Al-Qaeda), but it is not the central leadership. Statements from regional affiliates or commanders do not represent official Al-Qaeda central policy.
•  These appear to be fringe, unauthenticated, or exaggerated claims amplified in pro-Iran or anti-TTP circles, possibly tied to local rivalries (e.g., TTP vs. Taliban/Iran dynamics) rather than a coordinated shift.
•  No credible terrorism monitoring sites (e.g., Long War Journal, Jihadology, SITE Intelligence) or analyses confirm an official central statement flipping to support Israel.
Instead, reports highlight Al-Qaeda’s continued anti-Israel stance and pragmatic ties to Iran (e.g., safe havens for leaders like Saif al-Adel in Tehran).
In summary: Al-Qaeda central remains ideologically hostile to Israel (far more than to Iran, despite distrust of Shia “Rafidites”) and has used recent events to call for anti-U.S./anti-Israel jihad, not the reverse. Any “support Israel” narrative traces to unverified affiliate chatter or misinformation, not an official release from the group’s core command.

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Re: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"
« Reply #494 on: March 10, 2026, 09:48:15 PM »
That makes absolutely zero sense. The more you elaborate, the less you have thought about it? You just can't defend your crap, you'd rather just misrepresent by calling me a Muslim or a leftist.

"LITERALLY" LOL.

What's a better place for those groups, Iran or Israel?

If you the full interview let me know. This has also been concurred with those that fought in not just Afghanistan but almost every Radical Islamic country

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Re: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"
« Reply #495 on: March 10, 2026, 10:03:57 PM »
Oh yeah, one other thing that needs to be addressed. The whole "Israel decides US foreign" policy thing. It's bullshit in a nutshell. We have a strategic partnership that benefits US national security, intelligence, tech and regional stability more than it even costs. It's in no way decided by Israel if anything it aligns with our own priorities as seen in this war.

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Re: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"
« Reply #496 on: March 10, 2026, 10:10:08 PM »
US foreign policy should be coldly rational and impartial. Judge every nation solely by whether it advances the security and prosperity of average Americans ignoring religion, culture, history, or ideology.

All relationships must be transactional. Support only when clear benefits outweigh costs. No sentiment based alliances. In the Middle East we should treat Israel, Saudi Arabia, and Turkey the same way with no favorites.

The US Israel tie is currently overweighted. Israel delivers value but the massive aid, diplomatic protection, and political capital often exceed net returns for Americans while creating unnecessary costs elsewhere.

Foreign policy exists to deliver results for Americans. We should support what works and drop what doesn’t.

Past loyalty matters in relationships and in how rational it is to trust someone based on whether they've screwed you over in the past or helped you.  You can't be transactional and ignore the history of prior transactions.

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Oh yeah, one other thing that needs to be addressed. The whole "Israel decides US foreign" policy thing. It's bullshit in a nutshell. We have a strategic partnership that benefits US national security, intelligence, tech and regional stability more than it even costs. It's in no way decided by Israel if anything it aligns with our own priorities as seen in this war.


I have to disagree with you - Israel has far to much pull over America,
They're a warmongering bully boy country & do as they want.
I think you should step back a bit & get a broader view of them.

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If you the full interview let me know. This has also been concurred with those that fought in not just Afghanistan but almost every Radical Islamic country

i=pr6XM94kCF6v0Vjj

Lmao! Also, Nicholas Irvin on Iran. Coach, I believe you have some sort of savior complex. You can go to any 3rd world country and find deviant behavior. Should we bomb and invade Thailand next or how about Brazil?