2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"

[oldschoolfan]

We’re almost at the 2 month mark since Trump declared victory. Lmao! Just two more weeks. Just two more weeks.

Rambo this just broke the news trump is bringing  in…..


Captain Jack swallows to open the straight !

[GymnJuice]

The counter is he is ending a "forever war".

I did not want any new conflicts as well, especially since I have a son who would be draft eligible.

However, I have been resigned to the fact that since Oct 7th, escalation to these levels was unavoidable.

No matter what we say, a destabilized middle east / nuclear iran will affect us, so our participation was inevitable, and Israel likely forced the timing by getting ready to go all in.

If it can be wrapped soon, fine.  I know it's a big IF, but we'll see.

I disagree that our participation was inevitable. We didn’t have to get involved at all.

I also don’t believe a nuclear Iran would affect us in a major way. It would primarily threaten Saudi Arabia, Israel, and Turkey. We’ve already lived with a nuclear Pakistan since the 1990s, and it hasn’t affected me at all. It only affects the Indians.

A destabilized middle east does affect us, but we’re the ones who destabilized it. Shipping was flowing smoothly before we took out their leadership. We would have been better off keeping the Iranians repressed with their old Ayatollah and preserving open shipping lanes. Trump should stop doubling down on a bad call, take the L, and move on.

[oldschoolfan]

I disagree that our participation was inevitable. We didn’t have to get involved at all.

I also don’t believe a nuclear Iran would affect us in a major way. It would primarily threaten Saudi Arabia, Israel, and Turkey. We’ve already lived with a nuclear Pakistan since the 1990s, and it hasn’t affected me at all. It only affects the Indians.

A destabilized middle east does affect us, but we’re the ones who destabilized it. Shipping was flowing smoothly before we took out their leadership. We would have been better off keeping the Iranians repressed with their old Ayatollah and preserving open shipping lanes. Trump should stop doubling down on a bad call, take the L, and move on.

gym juice agree with 100%of your post that was a well thought out articulate post

even former special forces guys like shawn ryan etc have echoed the same thoughts .  the u.s goverment are puppets for israel i begin to wonder just how much intel they have on our officials and the shit they have done , aka epstein they want no one to find out about

[Rambone]

Shawn Ryan takes the gloves off and responds to Coach

[Grape Ape]

I disagree that our participation was inevitable. We didn’t have to get involved at all.

I also don’t believe a nuclear Iran would affect us in a major way. It would primarily threaten Saudi Arabia, Israel, and Turkey. We’ve already lived with a nuclear Pakistan since the 1990s, and it hasn’t affected me at all. It only affects the Indians.

A destabilized middle east does affect us, but we’re the ones who destabilized it. Shipping was flowing smoothly before we took out their leadership. We would have been better off keeping the Iranians repressed with their old Ayatollah and preserving open shipping lanes. Trump should stop doubling down on a bad call, take the L, and move on.

Energy volatility, power shifts, stronger more emboldened proxies, and eventually the development of longer range missiles, etc......all that effects us.

[Royalty]

Energy volatility, power shifts, stronger more emboldened proxies, and eventually the development of longer range missiles, etc......all that effects us.

There were also discussions that Iran could have potentially enriched their Uranium enough to make mini, small-scale Nuclear devices. A nuclear device the same size as a briefcase. Those nukes would then be sold off to terror organizations. And who knows where those devices would have been used.

[Coach is Back!]

False.  I voted for Trump in large part due to his promise of “no new wars”.  I most certainly did not vote for this war with Iran.

And there were no new wars

[Coach is Back!]

There’s the patented humble brag we all know and love. Im enjoying the record stock market, but I don’t let that cloud my judgment.

It is what it is. Business economy is a huge indicator especially in the apparel industry

[chaos]

I see both sides of the discussion, but I really wish the US would annihilate them or not bother. Why go over there and play with your food?

[oldschoolfan]

Shawn Ryan takes the gloves off and responds to Coach

Bwa ha ha truth is hard for the coach

[Coach is Back!]

Bwa ha ha truth is hard for the coach

Welp, I’m in your head again and neither can keep me out of your mouths. He’s has his opinion I have mine.

[tom joad]

https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-79-bizarrely-boasts-he-can-correctly-identify-a-squirrel/

This is the man some folks on here worship. LMAO.

This will be studied for all times. The level of retard is next level.

Hate the game (the widely used MoCA for detecting dementia), not the player (who boasts about acing it … 3 times.)

[Irongrip400]

I see both sides of the discussion, but I really wish the US would annihilate them or not bother. Why go over there and play with your food?

Yes. Either pull the band aid off or leave it alone. Maybe in a generation or two shit simmers down. I’m sick of these bullshit conflicts

[Grape Ape]

Yes. Either pull the band aid off or leave it alone. Maybe in a generation or two shit simmers down. I’m sick of these bullshit conflicts

What does this mean - hit civilians, boots on the ground?

[Coach is Back!]

What does this mean - hit civilians, boots on the ground?

What sucks is that when Trump was going to level power plants and bridges Iran called for children to surround both using them as human shields (because that’s literally their MO) then blame the US killing innocent civilians. If that happened the left would have (and tried) to call it a war crime before it even was going happen.

 If it would have happened it absolutely would not have a war crime since the Iranian military controlled both it makes it a legit military target.

[Irongrip400]

What does this mean - hit civilians, boots on the ground?

These wars, when you don’t fully commit, end up running forever. It’s like Israel. Had they just smashed the Arabs after 1948 or 1967 and expelled their Arab population we wouldn’t be dealing with this shit now. We should’ve forced regime change after killing the supreme leader, crushed their nuclear capabilities and taken full control of the Strait. Either do that, or don’t do anything and leave them alone. Not being decisive leaves us with this bullshit war we have now that is just making shit more expensive and will have the Republican Party getting steam rolled at mid terms.

[The Ghost of Methzer!]

Like Jesse Ventura once said:

"You know something, folks? This whole thing ain't just political—it's metaphysical! Barry Casserole had been pulling strings behind the scenes for years, and the American people are finally waking up to the conspiracy!"

[obsidian]

And there were no new wars

You're full of midget shit. The US attack on Iran was war and cost the US billions that it does not have. The US is like the guy who has a $100,000 car in the driveway while the house is in foreclosure and the roof is leaking. All for show. The aircraft carriers are rusting out. Infrastructure is a mess. Trump is an idiot. Most Trump voters did not vote for what he delivered. Trump's second term is a mess. His first term was ineffective due to the Dems blocking and obstructing him. Trump is a massive disappointment. I wish it was different.

[obsidian]

These wars, when you don’t fully commit, end up running forever. It’s like Israel. Had they just smashed the Arabs after 1948 or 1967 and expelled their Arab population we wouldn’t be dealing with this shit now. We should’ve forced regime change after killing the supreme leader, crushed their nuclear capabilities and taken full control of the Strait. Either do that, or don’t do anything and leave them alone. Not being decisive leaves us with this bullshit war we have now that is just making shit more expensive and will have the Republican Party getting steam rolled at mid terms.

Don't you think they would if they could? The US can't take control of the Strait. The US Navy does not want to bring its ships in striking distance of Iran's missiles. You can't force a regime change on 93 million people when the majority stand behind their leaders. Not even a million troops could make that happen. Sure the US can destroy Iran with nukes. But wasn't the whole argument that Iran can't have nukes? So now you nuke them to prove a point? Ironic that this ultimatum is coming from the only nation that used nukes on civilians in a war. I am surprised Russia or Pakistan have not provided a few nukes already. All these wars would be unnecessary then. Just demo a few nukes and say we already have nukes so go home. It seems all sides want these wars to continue. Population control? Who knows? It does not make sense otherwise.

[Humble Narcissist]

This war will go down as the biggest blunder in U.S. history that effects the whole world. This Strait of Hormuz situation will not be solved in our lifetimes. I hope I am wrong.

[GymnJuice]

This war will go down as the biggest blunder in U.S. history that effects the whole world. This Strait of Hormuz situation will not be solved in our lifetimes. I hope I am wrong.

Historians cite the Suez Crisis of the 1950s as the moment that marked the end of Britain as a true superpower. I think the Iran war will be seen by future historians as a different turning point for the United States. From the fall of the USSR until now we have been the unchallenged, preeminent global power. From now it will be seen as something else. We remain the strongest superpower, but our dominance is no longer uncontested.

[Necrosis]

And there were no new wars

You are truly delusional lol

The definition of war

"War is an armed conflict between the armed forces of states, or between governmental forces and armed groups that are organized under a certain command structure and have the capacity to sustain military operations, or between such organized groups."

You guys literally killed school children to start the war. The fact that you can't recognize that the US is causing massive problems and always have is astounding. Do you think the US is innocent? such a simpleton view of reality.

[Kwon]

And there were no new wars

Exactly

Trump just showed the world, what's what.

Settling many of the problems in the World , just like that.


The Order and Beacon of Light in the middle of the Chaos

[LurkerNoMore]

TACO strikes again as there will not be any "guiding of ships" through the Strait.

Project Freedom didn't free anything.

[chaos]

These wars, when you don’t fully commit, end up running forever. It’s like Israel. Had they just smashed the Arabs after 1948 or 1967 and expelled their Arab population we wouldn’t be dealing with this shit now. We should’ve forced regime change after killing the supreme leader, crushed their nuclear capabilities and taken full control of the Strait. Either do that, or don’t do anything and leave them alone. Not being decisive leaves us with this bullshit war we have now that is just making shit more expensive and will have the Republican Party getting steam rolled at mid terms.

Agreed. Dragging this shit out is lame. Strike fast, hard and violently. Remind the world why we are in the position we're in.