2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"

[B_B_C]

[chaos]

What are you talking about? Almost every expert says the Iran war can't be won with conventional means. How has it worked so far? The underground missile facilities are 500 meters under granite. Even the biggest war hawks, like Robert Kagan I referenced before, say it can't be won and Trump should take the L and just decalare "victory." BTW, US precision missiles are already 50% depleted. Will take many years to replenish. What is the US going to use? JDAMs? LOL.

Pretty sure we've had this convo before. You believe the US is telling the truth about how many missiles we've depleted, but don't believe anything else you're told? That's part of the problem when you're rooting for Eeron, you're too biased to see anything other than Eeronian victory.

[Van_Bilderass]

Pretty sure we've had this convo before. You believe the US is telling the truth about how many missiles we've depleted, but don't believe anything else you're told? That's part of the problem when you're rooting for Eeron, you're too biased to see anything other than Eeronian victory.

Yes we've had this convo before and it's pretty useless for me cite sources, which you wouldn't read anyway, or even just use reason. You go by some assumption or guess that the US has secret stockpiles. There are many angles why this can't be true, even Trump's own words where he's said he has none to give and where hardware was moved from S. Korea and Ukraine to the ME. Why in the fuck would you take Patriot batteries with the PAC3 missiles from Ukraine, when they are in the middle of a war, and move them to Israel if they are so plentiful? Anyway...

Hell yea I'm rooting for Iran, I have testosterone in my body. Right now they are behaving in an extremely manly way. If they were bitching out I wouldn't but they say they are ready for anything, I get shivers just thinking about it. Warrior culture, I wish I was as tough as them, "I don't care if I die, it's an honor, I have already prepared my successor". Would Americans behave like this? Their soft asses cry when gas goes up a bit. They are against an incredibly superior enemy if you consider resources and tech and so on. ALL they have to do is not give up now and they win. They may be destroyed in the process but morally they win and the US will lose in that the whole world may be destroyed for a bit. I have a feeling this will cement bitch ass lying TACO Trump as the worst president in history. We'll return to this many times; we'll see who was right, if your prediction that the US had lots of missiles and that the US won and Trump walked away as hero was correct...

Another MELTDOWN I guess.

TL;DR

T E A M  I R A N

And I usually dislike Iranians; not in this case...

[Van_Bilderass]

Just to add to the meltdown. I was accused of being anti-American since I support Iran in this case. That's fine, I can take it, I'm not American and have no responsibility to be especially pro-American. But I wonder how true that is. I follow the conservative space on the net and many who call themselves American patriots see this my way. They say they pray for the US soldiers and don't wish them no harm, I don't enjoy seeing harm come on them either. But these conservatives think Iran is morally right and this war of aggression by US is not America first and some say it's not even constitutional. It's the same with the Jew issue. Some claim being pro-America means supporting Jews and Israel on anything and everything while others say being more loyal to Israel is traitorous. It comes down to what you think America is or should be I guess.

Is Tucker more or less American or patriotic than Mark Levin or Ben Shapiro? Trump thinks the Jews are who America First. The again Trump has Jewish children and is paid bribed by Jews like Miriam Adelson and proud of it.

"I get her in trouble with this, but I actually asked her once… ‘What do you love more? The United States or Israel?’ She refused to answer. That might mean Israel" (laughter) - Trump in the Israeli Knesset

What a joke

How I responded to clueless Coach's tough guy talk about bombing Iran earlier. What a fool Coach is. Trump is scared.

OK, if Iran takes out UAE and Saudi, then what?

Now if we take Trump at his word, which we can't, an attack was scheduled for tomorrow, just as the NY Times said. How could the lying NY Times have known? Coach?

TACO bitch

[herne]

[Van_Bilderass]

When I think about is Trump is probably lying about calling it off (for now). He is probably saying what he said in his tweet truth above, trying to make it out as though those Gulf states are calling for peace so Iran won't hit them as hard when US attacks. The guy is lies even when he tells the truth (inversion of Tony Montana's saying).
OTOaaaH the Gulf states are pissed since the US failed in protecting them as Trump promised. I will be very surprised if Israel and the US don't attack very soon.

Praying for Iran. Stay strong and steadfast.

[herne]

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[chaos]

Another MELTDOWN I guess.

TL;DR

You pick and choose what you want to believe and what source you want to believe it from based off your bias opinion. That's fine, do you, but we can all see you're not a neutral source of information.

[Van_Bilderass]

^ That's how it appears on the surface. It's also possible Trump desperately sought an off-ramp and was thankful to be "talked out of it." Also possible the strike comes anyway as scheduled since Trump has tricked Iran several times already. Israel may say they will strike anyway and then the US "has to" come to their aid (the excuse given last time).

One example recent Trump waffling is how a couple of weeks ago he said Iran must hand over the "nuclear dust," and in fact he said Iran has agreed to hand it over (lie). Then the other day he said we don't need to take it out as the sites are in rubble and Iran can't get to it as the US has 7 satellite cameras on the site 24/7 and tbey haven't made an attempt to even start clearing the entrances. "We have sent back their program 25 years." Alrightly then, no worries then right? It's constant self-embarrassment.

[Van_Bilderass]

You pick and choose what you want to believe and what source you want to believe it from based off your bias opinion. That's fine, do you, but we can all see you're not a neutral source of information.

I've said many, many times we all have biases we have to look out for, if we want to challenge our preconceived ideas that is. I am biased, I know. I always say all experts and analysts and news sources are biased and have agendas, to keep that in mind. I just told Coach that NYT lies and twist as does everyone else, but even a broken clock is right twice day you know, and I asked him to give me some objective sources then. It was rhetorical on my part obviously. Though  judging on Coach cut and pastes his sources are usually bottom of the barrel slop as many have pointed out. Just IMO of course

My bias is towards extreme right wing, antisemitic, fascist, ethnic particularist and dissident sources but I may also listen communists and liberals on occasion, or even the NY Times!

[Coach is Back!]

I've said many, many times we all have biases we have to look out for, if we want to challenge our preconceived ideas that is. I am biased, I know. I always say all experts and analysts and news sources are biased and have agendas, to keep that in mind. I just told Coach that NYT lies and twist as does everyone else, but even a broken clock is right twice day you know, and I asked him to give me some objective sources then. It was rhetorical on my part obviously. Though  judging on Coach cut and pastes his sources are usually bottom of the barrel slop as many have pointed out. Just IMO of course

My bias is towards extreme right wing, antisemitic, fascist, ethnic particularist and dissident sources but I may also listen communists and liberals on occasion, or even the NY Times!

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