2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"

[B_B_C]

[Van_Bilderass]

Peace deal signed yet?

I'll be amazed if they can come to terms with each other. Trump makes statements about the deal and then immediately the Iranians say it's not true. Like Trump says the nuke issue is included and Iranians say they haven't even discussed it. Iranians say US officials tell them not to listen to Trump's public statements, it's just for domestic consumption LOL. I believe them.

[Humble Narcissist]

I'll be amazed if they can come to terms with each other. Trump makes statements about the deal and then immediately the Iranians say it's not true. Like Trump says the nuke issue is included and Iranians say they haven't even discussed it. Iranians say US officials tell them not to listen to Trump's public statements, it's just for domestic consumption LOL. I believe them.

You would think Trump would have figured this out by now.

[Van_Bilderass]

You would think Trump would have figured this out by now.

Never seen anyone like Trump. He's unbelievable. He's certainly achieved something (behaved like) no one else ever has. Historical. Notorious is maybe the word.

Some believe we are already in WWII. We have the other theater, Europe (USA) and Russia and things are heating up in a very worrying way. Current and former Russian officials are now increasingly talking about nuking Europe because they are manufacturing drones used to attack Russia. The US (and Trump is Commander in Chief so responsible) supplies targeting data for drones and missiles to strike inside Russia so directly involved. Russia is reportedly also worried about a preemptive nuclear first strike by Europe. "It's Biden's war." I think Biden didn't even want to send tanks IIRC because it could breach Russian red lines. Trump brags about sending missiles. Someone tell me this stance by Europe/NATO (including the US) is a good idea?!

[IroNat]

I think what's driving the U.S. hesitancy is the ordnance shortage.

ordnance /ôrd′nəns/
noun
Military materiel, such as weapons, ammunition, combat vehicles, and equipment.
The branch of an armed force that procures, maintains, and issues weapons, ammunition, and combat vehicles.
Cannon; artillery.

[Rambone]

Trump called the Iranians LOSERS in caps. So we’re clearly winning this thing.

[LurkerNoMore]

Trump called the Iranians LOSERS in caps. So we’re clearly winning this thing.

It was said that all US Officials dealing with the Iranians are begging them not to pay attention to anything Trumpy says.

[Rambone]

It was said that all US Officials dealing with the Iranians are begging them not to pay attention to anything Trumpy says.

It must be hard to do because he’s so convincing when he leaves the caps lock on

[LurkerNoMore]

It must be hard to do because he’s so convincing when he leaves the caps lock on

It means that he is SERIOUS.  He REALLY means it.  THIS time.

[chaos]

Crazy that everyone believes the US is suddenly short on ordnance but Eeron seems to have an endless supply. 

[Van_Bilderass]

I think what's driving the U.S. hesitancy is the ordnance shortage.

Of course, at least partly. But chaos just won't believe it

Crazy that everyone believes the US is suddenly short on ordnance but Eeron seems to have an endless supply. 

Not trying to antagonize you, this is almost always in good humor US delayed promised deliveries of Patriots to Japan by a couple of years. Pentagon itself says it's because the US needs them in Iran. I could list several other countries who were told the same. Trump said he doesn't want to send the billions worth of weapons to Taiwan. This was a huge lucrative deal but suddenly Trump changes his mind. I think it's very well established by now the US is catastrophically low on ordnance - the precision missiles. US officials say it openly, including Trump.

Many years ago Iran had considered investing in jets. After analyzing what would be the best bet to invest in, they went all out on missiles instead. So they built an industrial complex, much of which was buried under 500 meters of granite rock so conventional weapons can't touch them, all US/Israel can do is bomb the entrances which the Iranians clear within hours or maybe a day or two. Trump JUST said he thinks they have now built back. We don't have cameras inside the underground facilities so we can't know how much they have. But the US obviously isn't so confident, otherwise it would attack with little fear. The US is afraid of the Iranian missiles, the Gulf states are absolutely terrified.

TL;DR

Iran is probably able to build new missiles underground, we can't know how many missiles they have exactly, obviously. Iran claims they are at 120% of pre-war levels, US intelligence estimates they are at 90%.

[Van_Bilderass]

Trump called the Iranians LOSERS in caps. So we’re clearly winning this thing.

He also called those who posted supposedly leaked drafts of the plan LOSERS, and that no one has seen the real plan, also said "I don't make bad deals."

I heard this, and I totally believe it, these drafts are likely leaked by the US admin itself. They are testing how different plans go over with the people before committing to a plan of action. Makes total sense. I posted an NYT article and Coach told me he "stopped reading at NYT," obviously because it's FAKE media, but the fact is that the admin for example uses all these media to intentionally leak info - they work with the fake media all the time. So if you read the NYT you may be reading the administration.

It was said that all US Officials dealing with the Iranians are begging them not to pay attention to anything Trumpy says.

Yes I mentioned it above and I totally believe it. US officials told the Iranians the social media stuff is for US domestic public consumption, for what is left of MAGA and so on. Basically saying it's baloney needed to manipulate the Trump supporters

[illuminati]

It was said that all US Officials dealing with the Iranians are begging them not to pay attention to anything Trumpy says.

Looik on the Bright side the Iranians could be dealing with sleepy
senile Joe - or worse still the laughing cackling whore who can't
answer if its not written down for her Khvntmala - or
God forbid AOC the DummyCraps are on about as a potential
runner my lord she hasnt a Fucking clue & runs away when she
get stuck, mind she got some nice Big Tits to look at.

[B_B_C]

Looik on the Bright side the Iranians could be dealing with sleepy
senile Joe - or worse still the laughing cackling whore who can't
answer if its not written down for her Khvntmala - or
God forbid AOC the DummyCraps are on about as a potential
runner my lord she hasnt a Fucking clue & runs away when she
get stuck, mind she got some nice Big Tits to look at.

[LurkerNoMore]

Looik on the Bright side the Iranians could be dealing with sleepy
senile Joe - or worse still the laughing cackling whore who can't
answer if its not written down for her Khvntmala - or
God forbid AOC the DummyCraps are on about as a potential
runner my lord she hasnt a Fucking clue & runs away when she
get stuck, mind she got some nice Big Tits to look at.

If they were, they wouldn't be in a strategic position right now and the US wouldn't be looking so weak.  Instead we have TACO and NACHO.

[LurkerNoMore]

Crazy that everyone believes the US is suddenly short on ordnance but Eeron seems to have an endless supply. 

You know who else has an endless supply?  Israel.  Because they are not using shit for their own protection.  Fucking leeches.

[illuminati]

If they were, they wouldn't be in a strategic position right now and the US wouldn't be looking so weak.  Instead we have TACO and NACHO.

You are clearly joking - wouldn't be looking so weak NO they'd be a
laughed at by Iran & the rest of the world for having such utterly stupid
an ineffective leader - If you do really think any of those 3 would be any
use then lord help America.
None of them would be able to do any good on a world stage.

[Humble Narcissist]

I think what's driving the U.S. hesitancy is the ordnance shortage.

ordnance /ôrd′nəns/
noun
Military materiel, such as weapons, ammunition, combat vehicles, and equipment.
The branch of an armed force that procures, maintains, and issues weapons, ammunition, and combat vehicles.
Cannon; artillery.

How? The U.S. spends more on military than the rest of the world combined. Where does all of it go?

[Necrosis]

You know who else has an endless supply?  Israel.  Because they are not using shit for their own protection.  Fucking leeches.

Imagine not understanding that bombing another country relentlessly while the other country barely bombs anything in retaliation (they have no targets per se) and not being able to figure out why one country has used more missiles.

[LurkerNoMore]

You are clearly joking - wouldn't be looking so weak NO they'd be a
laughed at by Iran & the rest of the world for having such utterly stupid
an ineffective leader - If you do really think any of those 3 would be any
use then lord help America.
None of them would be able to do any good on a world stage.

As opposed to the current President that is kept out of the Situation Room by his own aides.  A diaper filled loser that can't even follow through with his own threats.  Yeah, that's a good sign.   Dude claims to have stopped 8 imaginary wars but can't end the one he started.

[LurkerNoMore]

Imagine not understanding that bombing another country relentlessly while the other country barely bombs anything in retaliation (they have no targets per se) and not being able to figure out why one country has used more missiles.

It's MAGA math bro.  Or rather, lack of math skills.  Same thing really. 

[chaos]

Of course, at least partly. But chaos just won't believe it

Not trying to antagonize you, this is almost always in good humor US delayed promised deliveries of Patriots to Japan by a couple of years. Pentagon itself says it's because the US needs them in Iran. I could list several other countries who were told the same. Trump said he doesn't want to send the billions worth of weapons to Taiwan. This was a huge lucrative deal but suddenly Trump changes his mind. I think it's very well established by now the US is catastrophically low on ordnance - the precision missiles. US officials say it openly, including Trump.

Many years ago Iran had considered investing in jets. After analyzing what would be the best bet to invest in, they went all out on missiles instead. So they built an industrial complex, much of which was buried under 500 meters of granite rock so conventional weapons can't touch them, all US/Israel can do is bomb the entrances which the Iranians clear within hours or maybe a day or two. Trump JUST said he thinks they have now built back. We don't have cameras inside the underground facilities so we can't know how much they have. But the US obviously isn't so confident, otherwise it would attack with little fear. The US is afraid of the Iranian missiles, the Gulf states are absolutely terrified.

TL;DR

Iran is probably able to build new missiles underground, we can't know how many missiles they have exactly, obviously. Iran claims they are at 120% of pre-war levels, US intelligence estimates they are at 90%.

Once again, you put faith in what the government is telling you through the media. You are the type of person the government will give a barcode to.

[chaos]

You know who else has an endless supply?  Israel.  Because they are not using shit for their own protection.  Fucking leeches.

An endless supply of US missiles!
Imagine picking and choosing to believe the government only when it fits your narrative.
The gov, "we're winning the situation in Eeron" = the left, "ALL LIES!!!!"
The gov, "we're running out of missiles" = the left, "omg Eeron is destroying us, we don't have any missiles to defend ourselves!!"

LOL dumbasses