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Re: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"
« Reply #2825 on: June 15, 2026, 11:04:00 AM »
I don't care if it's a "bad deal," if Iran gets billions in frozen funds, or if they control the strait. If it means we are finally out of there, it’s a win for American citizens and taxpayers.

And the entire world has to be dragged into this stupid bullshit and pay the price because the US got duped by Israel.

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Re: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"
« Reply #2826 on: June 15, 2026, 11:44:25 AM »

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Re: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"
« Reply #2827 on: June 15, 2026, 01:51:53 PM »
Hahahaha.  Iran is now saying that contrary to Trumpy's claims, the Strait is not open free of tolls.

How much are we going to pay them?   :D :D :D :D   And they keep their nuclear dust?   :D :D :D :D   

Can't wait to see how much worse than Obama's agreement this will be.  A complete humiliation of the called "deal maker".

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Re: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"
« Reply #2828 on: June 15, 2026, 01:59:07 PM »
Hahahaha.  Iran is now saying that contrary to Trumpy's claims, the Strait is not open free of tolls.

How much are we going to pay them?   :D :D :D :D   And they keep their nuclear dust?   :D :D :D :D   

Can't wait to see how much worse than Obama's agreement this will be.  A complete humiliation of the called "deal maker".

I actually don't care if Iran gets to charge tolls after this deal. It doesn't hurt me personally, and it doesn't really hurt the US either. Thanks to fracking, we're now a net exporter of oil, and we don't rely on that strait for our own shipments. The tolls will mostly be paid by Europe and China, since they're the big buyers. If anything, this ends up hurting Israel, Iran's main enemy, and probably Iran's Arab adversaries too. Overall, it feels like a pretty neutral concession for the US if you look at it without emotion.

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Re: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"
« Reply #2829 on: June 15, 2026, 02:03:13 PM »
I actually don't care if Iran gets to charge tolls after this deal. It doesn't hurt me personally, and it doesn't really hurt the US either. Thanks to fracking, we're now a net exporter of oil, and we don't rely on that strait for our own shipments. The tolls will mostly be paid by Europe and China, since they're the big buyers. If anything, this ends up hurting Israel, Iran's main enemy, and probably Iran's Arab adversaries too. Overall, it feels like a pretty neutral concession for the US if you look at it without emotion.

Naw we getting fleeced even more.  This is now being reported :

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JD Vance went on CBS News and tried to spin Donald Trump's Iran deal. Instead, he CONFIRMED exactly how badly Trump got fleeced.
CBS correspondent Ed O'Keefe asked Vance point-blank whether Iran would have access to a $300 BILLION reconstruction fund. Vance's answer? Essentially yes — "funded by the Gulf Coast coalition so long as they honor their end of the obligation."

So let's do the math that the Trump administration desperately doesn't want you to do. Let's compare Trump's Iran deal to the one Republicans spent a DECADE calling the worst deal in American history — Barack Obama's.

OBAMA'S IRAN DEAL:
• $1.7 billion in unfrozen Iranian assets
• In exchange for a 98% reduction in Iran's uranium stockpile
• And strict limits capping enrichment at 3.7%

TRUMP'S IRAN DEAL:
• $24 BILLION in unfrozen assets and cash
• A $300 BILLION reconstruction fund
• Lifted sanctions
• In exchange for an "opened Strait" under Iran and Oman's control

Read those numbers again. Trump is handing Iran roughly FOURTEEN TIMES the unfrozen cash Obama did — plus a $300 billion reconstruction windfall — after starting a war that nobody wanted, spiking gas prices, and killing the existing ceasefire because he found negotiations "boring." AND the deal just kicks what happens with Iran's uranium stockpile to future negotiations!

Republicans screamed for YEARS that Obama "gave Iran billions" and "appeased the mullahs." They called his deal treasonous. They tore it up. And now their guy is giving Iran an order of magnitude MORE money for a far weaker arrangement.

But here's the part Vance accidentally revealed. He warned that Iranian hardliners would "over-emphasize the benefits that Iran gets while under-emphasizing all the things they have to concede."

That's PROJECTION. Because it's the TRUMP administration that's been over-emphasizing the "wins" while burying the $24 billion, the $300 billion fund, the lifted sanctions, and the fact that the strategic Strait would fall under Iranian and Omani control. Vance is accusing Iran of doing EXACTLY what his own administration is doing — hiding the real terms of the deal from the public.

The man who promised to be tougher than Obama on Iran just handed Tehran the biggest payday in its history — after dragging America into a war first.  $1.7 billion versus $324 billion. That's the difference between Obama's "terrible" deal and Trump's "great" one.
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Re: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"
« Reply #2830 on: June 15, 2026, 02:12:04 PM »
Naw we getting fleeced even more.  This is now being reported :

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JD Vance went on CBS News and tried to spin Donald Trump's Iran deal. Instead, he CONFIRMED exactly how badly Trump got fleeced.
CBS correspondent Ed O'Keefe asked Vance point-blank whether Iran would have access to a $300 BILLION reconstruction fund. Vance's answer? Essentially yes — "funded by the Gulf Coast coalition so long as they honor their end of the obligation."

So let's do the math that the Trump administration desperately doesn't want you to do. Let's compare Trump's Iran deal to the one Republicans spent a DECADE calling the worst deal in American history — Barack Obama's.

OBAMA'S IRAN DEAL:
• $1.7 billion in unfrozen Iranian assets
• In exchange for a 98% reduction in Iran's uranium stockpile
• And strict limits capping enrichment at 3.7%

TRUMP'S IRAN DEAL:
• $24 BILLION in unfrozen assets and cash
• A $300 BILLION reconstruction fund
• Lifted sanctions
• In exchange for an "opened Strait" under Iran and Oman's control

Read those numbers again. Trump is handing Iran roughly FOURTEEN TIMES the unfrozen cash Obama did — plus a $300 billion reconstruction windfall — after starting a war that nobody wanted, spiking gas prices, and killing the existing ceasefire because he found negotiations "boring." AND the deal just kicks what happens with Iran's uranium stockpile to future negotiations!

Republicans screamed for YEARS that Obama "gave Iran billions" and "appeased the mullahs." They called his deal treasonous. They tore it up. And now their guy is giving Iran an order of magnitude MORE money for a far weaker arrangement.

But here's the part Vance accidentally revealed. He warned that Iranian hardliners would "over-emphasize the benefits that Iran gets while under-emphasizing all the things they have to concede."

That's PROJECTION. Because it's the TRUMP administration that's been over-emphasizing the "wins" while burying the $24 billion, the $300 billion fund, the lifted sanctions, and the fact that the strategic Strait would fall under Iranian and Omani control. Vance is accusing Iran of doing EXACTLY what his own administration is doing — hiding the real terms of the deal from the public.

The man who promised to be tougher than Obama on Iran just handed Tehran the biggest payday in its history — after dragging America into a war first.  $1.7 billion versus $324 billion. That's the difference between Obama's "terrible" deal and Trump's "great" one.
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As a neutral bystander, an American watching from the other side of the globe, I’ve been consistent from the beginning that this isn’t our fight, and we shouldn’t be involved in the first place.

That said, even if Iran receives more money under this deal, it doesn’t hurt me personally as long as the funds aren’t coming from American taxpayers or resources. If Gulf countries want to pay Iran billions, that’s their decision. Why should that concern me?

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Re: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"
« Reply #2831 on: June 15, 2026, 02:25:45 PM »
As a neutral bystander, an American watching from the other side of the globe, I’ve been consistent from the beginning that this isn’t our fight, and we shouldn’t be involved in the first place.

That said, even if Iran receives more money under this deal, it doesn’t hurt me personally as long as the funds aren’t coming from American taxpayers or resources. If Gulf countries want to pay Iran billions, that’s their decision. Why should that concern me?

And that summarises everything.

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Re: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"
« Reply #2832 on: June 15, 2026, 05:14:44 PM »
Isreal said they will continue alone of the US signs out. :D
Liar!!!!Filt!!!!

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Re: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"
« Reply #2833 on: June 15, 2026, 05:28:00 PM »
Isreal said they will continue alone of the US signs out. :D

Please let this happen. I’m sick and tired of the US being dragged into this shit. Israel is big enough to do this shit on their own, so let them.

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Re: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"
« Reply #2834 on: June 15, 2026, 05:43:15 PM »
Isreal said they will continue alone of the US signs out. :D

Would never happen. Too many politicians blackmailed

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Isreal said they will continue alone of the US signs out. :D
Israel is big enough to do this shit on their own, so let them.

Not really. In reality they can't do anything without the US, they couldn't even have done what they did in Gaza without US weapons. And the US won't ever stop the weapons supplies.

There's this constant debate on who is the dog and who is the tail wagging the dog. This time Rubio and other officials immediately blamed Israel for the necessity of the US stepping in, but...

From a US policy paper from 2009! It actually had a chapter named "Leave it to Bibi" LOL :D

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Naw we getting fleeced even more.  This is now being reported :

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JD Vance went on CBS News and tried to spin Donald Trump's Iran deal. Instead, he CONFIRMED exactly how badly Trump got fleeced.
CBS correspondent Ed O'Keefe asked Vance point-blank whether Iran would have access to a $300 BILLION reconstruction fund. Vance's answer? Essentially yes — "funded by the Gulf Coast coalition so long as they honor their end of the obligation."

So let's do the math that the Trump administration desperately doesn't want you to do. Let's compare Trump's Iran deal to the one Republicans spent a DECADE calling the worst deal in American history — Barack Obama's.

OBAMA'S IRAN DEAL:
• $1.7 billion in unfrozen Iranian assets
• In exchange for a 98% reduction in Iran's uranium stockpile
• And strict limits capping enrichment at 3.7%

TRUMP'S IRAN DEAL:
• $24 BILLION in unfrozen assets and cash
• A $300 BILLION reconstruction fund
• Lifted sanctions
• In exchange for an "opened Strait" under Iran and Oman's control

Read those numbers again. Trump is handing Iran roughly FOURTEEN TIMES the unfrozen cash Obama did — plus a $300 billion reconstruction windfall — after starting a war that nobody wanted, spiking gas prices, and killing the existing ceasefire because he found negotiations "boring." AND the deal just kicks what happens with Iran's uranium stockpile to future negotiations!

Republicans screamed for YEARS that Obama "gave Iran billions" and "appeased the mullahs." They called his deal treasonous. They tore it up. And now their guy is giving Iran an order of magnitude MORE money for a far weaker arrangement.

But here's the part Vance accidentally revealed. He warned that Iranian hardliners would "over-emphasize the benefits that Iran gets while under-emphasizing all the things they have to concede."

That's PROJECTION. Because it's the TRUMP administration that's been over-emphasizing the "wins" while burying the $24 billion, the $300 billion fund, the lifted sanctions, and the fact that the strategic Strait would fall under Iranian and Omani control. Vance is accusing Iran of doing EXACTLY what his own administration is doing — hiding the real terms of the deal from the public.

The man who promised to be tougher than Obama on Iran just handed Tehran the biggest payday in its history — after dragging America into a war first.  $1.7 billion versus $324 billion. That's the difference between Obama's "terrible" deal and Trump's "great" one.
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Obama is lightyears more intelligent then trump. Anyone with a brain can see that. Of course it was always going to be worse, he is a moron. All of his ideas are dumb and have led to nothing but shit.

This article doesn't mention the money spent on bombing and the war, using up a ton of missiles which they are now requesting 500 billion from tax payers.

It's a disaster, much like this presidency. The world leaders must be in awe when they have to deal with this moronic conman.


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Isreal said they will continue alone of the US signs out. :D

Only with OUR money.  OUR weapons.  OUR help.  OUR burdening the weight from their shoulders.

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Isreal said they will continue alone of the US signs out. :D
Won´t happen they own Trump
Israel has the best secret service & know everything about Trump
they have the Epstein files

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If this plan is so great, why does he have to wait until Friday to release it?   :D :D :D :D  This is the Epstein files part 2.