2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"

[B_B_C]

Exposed....what you're saying is that those executions are justified on innocent people. Got it. Tard

if that is what you want to believe but remember that many people (silly libturds of course) believe more than few innocent people have been executed here   but  no foreign power used that a reason to attack another country
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https://x.com/atrupar/status/2069471573044576560?s=20

Q: What will you say to allies of yours like Ted Cruz who have been critical of the Iran deal?

TRUMP: I think anybody who has been critical of it has to be educated

[Van_Bilderass]

Van might be a bigger propagandist/conspiracy theorist than any lib rag I’ve ever read all wrapped up into one

Please, if you will, tell me what is conspiratorial and false about what I'm posting now? Seems to me most of what I've speculated about has later been shown to be correct, often by Trump's own words. For example I said Trump made this deal due to the catastrophic oil reserve levels. You posted silly oil price charts. Sure enough, Trump confirmed it. BEDLAM!

Please, by all means define conservative and liberal to us all. I know you won't but would be illuminating if you did. Clearly your definitions are far from the usually accepted ones.

Dragged out for too long. You can’t negotiate with terrorists especially ones that have chanted everyday for 47 years “Death to America” “Death to Israel”. All layers of their “leadership” are gone. IRGC is charge and I’m pretty sure everyone in the administration knows no matter what’s agreed on and signed they will never hold their end of the deal.

You can’t negotiate with a regime who only bases their fights on religious ideology and are willing to become martyrs for it.

The US has lots of religious nuts as well. You are one, a Zionist Christian and these are some of the most delusional ones, with their end times theology where Trump is supposed to usher in Armageddon. So push for total war, like you do, it's what Jesus wants and will hasten the coming of the end.

Tell me again about religious extremists.


Iran has held all their promises so far. Trump broke the terms within hours by threats of genocide and murder. Vance had to placate the Iranians by telling them not to pay any mind to Trump's public outbursts. As US diplomats have done previously as well. You can never trust the US, at least under Trump but the same is true of everyone else as well historically, everyone around the world knows this. Putin and Lavrov have both said numerous times, and Lavrov in recent days again, that the Trump reneged on everything they agreed to in Anchorage. Do you think they are lying? I sure don't. The Russians call Americans "not agreement capable." Explain that. You can never trust the Russians I assume and it's them who break all agreements?

The US attacked Iran TWICE during negotiations! Trump just threatened to kill the Iranian negotiators. Spare me the retarded rhetoric about the irrational Iranians. NOW you're saying you're disappointed in Trump. Of course everyone knew you would come to this Zionist view. But you were just posting JD Vance pressers, obviously saying that the deal was great, unlike what us conspiracy theorists said (it's "bad" in the sense that the US "lost," but actually good in that, if we were to believe Trump is sincere, he's finally coming to his senses).

[Van_Bilderass]

Exposed....what you're saying is that those executions are justified on innocent people. Got it. Tard

That's not what he's saying you mental midget. Tell us again that Trump is concerned with capital punishment for innocent protesters. You think Trump should be making deals with these religious extremists? Saudi either whips or beheads homos. Saudi is an ALLY LOL, an ally who spends a lot of money in America, buys US weapons etc, so who cares right?

You are a complete fuckhead.

"Saudi Arabia imposes the death penalty for consensual same-sex sexual relations under its uncodified system of Sharia (Islamic law). Beheading with a sword is the state’s primary method of execution. While the government frequently states that capital punishment is reserved for terrorism, murder, and violent crimes, human rights organizations have documented instances where individuals were executed after being convicted of homosexual acts."

Who are you calling a Muslim lover again?

[Van_Bilderass]

Did you not get the memo advising you should not argue with the coach unless you are his intellectual equal ?

Haha, I only have an IQ of 100 if I'm lucky so it should be easy for Coach to "win" arguments on here but for some reason he's not demonstrating his considerable intellect. He's also assured us he does more "research" that any of us.
He only uses objective sources too, not liberal rags like myself and others.

[Rambone]

Iran made Trump look like a chump. The shart of the deal folks!

[Van_Bilderass]

How is AIPAC even allowed to exist?

And how about that US ambassador to Israel, Mike Huckabee?

A few days ago Trump boasted that Israel wouldn't exist without him. Huckabee was quick to counter that the US wouldn't exist without Israel!

Huckabee also held a meeting with Israeli spy Jonathan Pollard, who stole US atomic secrets which Israel then sold to the Soviet Union (commies!!!) Usually spies like this are executed. Trump pardoned him, Pollard took the next flight to Israel and he was received as a hero at the airport by Netanyahu.

"Jonathan Pollard, a former U.S. Navy intelligence analyst, was convicted in 1987 for spying on the United States and passing highly classified U.S. military secrets to Israel. While he was ostensibly spying for Israel, the core of the "secrets" controversy centers on allegations that Israeli intelligence bartered portions of his stolen American intelligence to the Soviet Union in exchange for the exit and release of Soviet Jews."

It's almost as if Huckabee works for Israel, not the US. Unbelievable.

[Royalty]

Haha, I only have an IQ of 100 if I'm lucky so it should be easy for Coach to "win" arguments on here but for some reason he's not demonstrating his considerable intellect. He's also assured us he does more "research" that any of us.
He only uses objective sources too, not liberal rags like myself and others.

My statement about the Olympic Wrestler being executed by the Iranian government had nothing to do with Trump.

Coach had said that the religious ideology in Iran is turn their people into martyr’s.

My point was that the Iranian leaders can also viciously  “make examples out of their own people”.

[Van_Bilderass]

My statement about the Olympic Wrestler being executed by the Iranian government had nothing to do with Trump.

Coach had said that the religious ideology in Iran is turn people into martyr’s.

My point was that the Iranian leaders can also viciously  “make examples out of people”.

Ok. I was responding to Coach quoting B_B_C though.

Iran can be vicious but Saudi implements Sharia Law and according to Coach you can never make deals with these religious lunatics. OMG they are MUSLIMS! These guys executed someone who attended a protest as a 15 year old FFS! But here we see Trump making deals with them.

So clearly the US didn't go to war for protester executions or to protect homos, there is no such principled stance.
The US also gave immunity to MBS for torturing and dismembering a US resident journalist. You can see Trump thinking what a nice guy he's welcomed to the White House, so chummy.

It's only slop for the retards (mostly boomers).

[chaos]

And how about that US ambassador to Israel, Mike Huckabee?

A few days ago Trump boasted that Israel wouldn't exist without him. Huckabee was quick to counter that the US wouldn't exist without Israel!

Huckabee also held a meeting with Israeli spy Jonathan Pollard, who stole US atomic secrets which Israel then sold to the Soviet Union (commies!!!) Usually spies like this are executed. Trump pardoned him, Pollard took the next flight to Israel and he was received as a hero at the airport by Netanyahu.

"Jonathan Pollard, a former U.S. Navy intelligence analyst, was convicted in 1987 for spying on the United States and passing highly classified U.S. military secrets to Israel. While he was ostensibly spying for Israel, the core of the "secrets" controversy centers on allegations that Israeli intelligence bartered portions of his stolen American intelligence to the Soviet Union in exchange for the exit and release of Soviet Jews."

It's almost as if Huckabee works for Israel, not the US. Unbelievable.

Guess we know who pays Mike Huckajew

[Van_Bilderass]

Guess we know who pays Mike Huckajew

I guess it's possible he's a Christian Zionist true believer. But it's interesting how the MAGA MIGA supporters are turning on Trump now and think nothing of criticizing and correcting him. Even Coach is disappointed.

Apparently Trump just told Bibi "not even the Jews like you!" LOL.

[Coach is Back!]

Dragged out for too long. You can’t negotiate with terrorists especially ones that have chanted everyday for 47 years “Death to America” “Death to Israel”. All layers of their “leadership” are gone. IRGC is charge and I’m pretty sure everyone in the administration knows no matter what’s agreed on and signed they will never hold their end of the deal.

You can’t say Trump didn’t try to use diplomacy but regardless we should have leveled what needed to be leveled and eliminated who needed to be eliminated. Enough is enough. I rarely get pissed at Trump but this dragging out thing pissed me off. It’s frustrating. But then again like everyone else, I’m not there so we really don’t know what’s being said.

You can’t negotiate with a regime who only bases their fights on religious ideology and are willing to become martyrs for it.

Here Van, my quote literally sums up every 1000 word post you’ve made in over a hundred something pages…..

“ But then again like everyone else (on here) I’m not there so we really don’t know what’s being said.”

[Van_Bilderass]

Here Van, my quote literally sums up every 1000 word post you’ve made in over a hundred something pages…..

“ But then again like everyone else (on here) I’m not there so we really don’t know what’s being said.”

We are all speculating and giving our opinions. You are entitled to your opinions and I counter when I disagree. The problem for me is when you tell everyone else they have no idea what's really happening and they should just shut up when you have just as strong opinions and come on here to educate everyone on the supposed real facts. Again, you are entitled to your own opinions but this is a message board where people can speculate just as you do.

It's likely that whatever we see is often mostly smoke and mirrors, that there are conspiracies afoot. You are basically saying we can't comment on public statements or actions because we don't know what's really being said behind the scenes. That makes you a conspiracy theorist as well

This young guy Mario Nawfal whose posts on X I posted above, says it's amazing what's said to him when off camera, people have no idea how deep the conspiracies go. He said on occasion he's posted speculation or a "conspiracy theory" about something on X and then an administration official has liked his post, basically giving him a thumbs up. Only he can see who liked his posts so he wouldn't say what it's been about since the person obviously wanted to stay anonymous, but I believe it's happening. Mario interviews a ton of world leaders around the world.

Currently I'm wondering where this supposed rift between Trump and the Jews is going, if it's real and if so, can Trump resist the intense pressure from the Jewish lobby in the US. Since I mentioned Turkey above, I just noticed Trump praised Erdogan and called him a friend and said the US might sell him F-35s. Predictably Mark Levin lost his shit, "can't sell Islamists weapons!" When I say Trump loves Muslims, I actually have something too back it up LOL. What's your opinion on this?

Mark Levin is such a bitch, he's now constantly attacking Trump's actions, when they go against his Jewish agenda, but does it in a passive aggressive way without actually naming Trump. If he can put it on someone else like Vance that's what he'll do. Ben Shapiro, Laura Loomer and Lindsey Graham are the exact same way, passive aggressive against Trump. I don't agree with everything Tucker says but he's a mench right now. Trump must have though highly of him as well since Tucker's evidently had Trump's ear on many occasions.

TL;DR

Take a look at this shit, deals with Islamists, MUSLIMS! An Islamist is a great friend of Trump's!

[Griffith]

We are all speculating and giving our opinions. You are entitled to your opinions and I counter when I disagree. The problem for me is when you tell everyone else they have no idea what's really happening and they should just shut up when you have just as strong opinions and come on here to educate everyone on the supposed real facts. Again, you are entitled to your own opinions but this is a message board where people can speculate just as you do.

It's likely that whatever we see is often mostly smoke and mirrors, that there are conspiracies afoot. You are basically saying we can't comment on public statements or actions because we don't know what's really being said behind the scenes. That makes you a conspiracy theorist as well

This young guy Mario Nawfal whose posts on X I posted above, says it's amazing what's said to him when off camera, people have no idea how deep the conspiracies go. He said on occasion he's posted speculation or a "conspiracy theory" about something on X and then an administration official has liked his post, basically giving him a thumbs up. Only he can see who liked his posts so he wouldn't say what it's been about since the person obviously wanted to stay anonymous, but I believe it's happening. Mario interviews a ton of world leaders around the world.

Currently I'm wondering where this supposed rift between Trump and the Jews is going, if it's real and if so, can Trump resist the intense pressure from the Jewish lobby in the US. Since I mentioned Turkey above, I just noticed Trump praised Erdogan and called him a friend and said the US might sell him F-35s. Predictably Mark Levin lost his shit, "can't sell Islamists weapons!" When I say Trump loves Muslims, I actually have something too back it up LOL. What's your opinion on this?

Mark Levin is such a bitch, he's now constantly attacking Trump's actions, when they go against his Jewish agenda, but does it in a passive aggressive way without actually naming Trump. If he can put it on someone else like Vance that's what he'll do. Ben Shapiro, Laura Loomer and Lindsey Graham are the exact same way, passive aggressive against Trump. I don't agree with everything Tucker says but he's a mench right now. Trump must have though highly of him as well since Tucker's evidently had Trump's ear on many occasions.

TL;DR

Take a look at this shit, deals with Islamists, MUSLIMS! An Islamist is a great friend of Trump's!

A war with Turkey would be idiotic, equivalent to attacking a western country with a modern military.

If Israel were stupid enough to do that they would have attacked NATO and be flattened by entire EU, US and Canada.

Seems like they just want permanent conflict in the region.

[chaos]

We are all speculating and giving our opinions. You are entitled to your opinions and I counter when I disagree. The problem for me is when you tell everyone else they have no idea what's really happening and they should just shut up when you have just as strong opinions and come on here to educate everyone on the supposed real facts. Again, you are entitled to your own opinions but this is a message board where people can speculate just as you do.

It's likely that whatever we see is often mostly smoke and mirrors, that there are conspiracies afoot. You are basically saying we can't comment on public statements or actions because we don't know what's really being said behind the scenes. That makes you a conspiracy theorist as well

This young guy Mario Nawfal whose posts on X I posted above, says it's amazing what's said to him when off camera, people have no idea how deep the conspiracies go. He said on occasion he's posted speculation or a "conspiracy theory" about something on X and then an administration official has liked his post, basically giving him a thumbs up. Only he can see who liked his posts so he wouldn't say what it's been about since the person obviously wanted to stay anonymous, but I believe it's happening. Mario interviews a ton of world leaders around the world.

Currently I'm wondering where this supposed rift between Trump and the Jews is going, if it's real and if so, can Trump resist the intense pressure from the Jewish lobby in the US. Since I mentioned Turkey above, I just noticed Trump praised Erdogan and called him a friend and said the US might sell him F-35s. Predictably Mark Levin lost his shit, "can't sell Islamists weapons!" When I say Trump loves Muslims, I actually have something too back it up LOL. What's your opinion on this?

Mark Levin is such a bitch, he's now constantly attacking Trump's actions, when they go against his Jewish agenda, but does it in a passive aggressive way without actually naming Trump. If he can put it on someone else like Vance that's what he'll do. Ben Shapiro, Laura Loomer and Lindsey Graham are the exact same way, passive aggressive against Trump. I don't agree with everything Tucker says but he's a mench right now. Trump must have though highly of him as well since Tucker's evidently had Trump's ear on many occasions.

TL;DR

Take a look at this shit, deals with Islamists, MUSLIMS! An Islamist is a great friend of Trump's!

Cliffs?
Let me guess....Coach is stupid for his opinion, your opinion is right. Trump is also stupid and the rest of the world is turning on him, again.
About right?

[Griffith]

Cliffs?
Let me guess....Coach is stupid for his opinion, your opinion is right. Trump is also stupid and the rest of the world is turning on him, again.
About right?

About Israel trying to provoke a war with Turkey.

[Coach is Back!]

We are all speculating and giving our opinions. You are entitled to your opinions and I counter when I disagree. The problem for me is when you tell everyone else they have no idea what's really happening and they should just shut up when you have just as strong opinions and come on here to educate everyone on the supposed real facts. Again, you are entitled to your own opinions but this is a message board where people can speculate just as you do.

It's likely that whatever we see is often mostly smoke and mirrors, that there are conspiracies afoot. You are basically saying we can't comment on public statements or actions because we don't know what's really being said behind the scenes. That makes you a conspiracy theorist as well

This young guy Mario Nawfal whose posts on X I posted above, says it's amazing what's said to him when off camera, people have no idea how deep the conspiracies go. He said on occasion he's posted speculation or a "conspiracy theory" about something on X and then an administration official has liked his post, basically giving him a thumbs up. Only he can see who liked his posts so he wouldn't say what it's been about since the person obviously wanted to stay anonymous, but I believe it's happening. Mario interviews a ton of world leaders around the world.

Currently I'm wondering where this supposed rift between Trump and the Jews is going, if it's real and if so, can Trump resist the intense pressure from the Jewish lobby in the US. Since I mentioned Turkey above, I just noticed Trump praised Erdogan and called him a friend and said the US might sell him F-35s. Predictably Mark Levin lost his shit, "can't sell Islamists weapons!" When I say Trump loves Muslims, I actually have something too back it up LOL. What's your opinion on this?

Mark Levin is such a bitch, he's now constantly attacking Trump's actions, when they go against his Jewish agenda, but does it in a passive aggressive way without actually naming Trump. If he can put it on someone else like Vance that's what he'll do. Ben Shapiro, Laura Loomer and Lindsey Graham are the exact same way, passive aggressive against Trump. I don't agree with everything Tucker says but he's a mench right now. Trump must have though highly of him as well since Tucker's evidently had Trump's ear on many occasions.

TL;DR

Take a look at this shit, deals with Islamists, MUSLIMS! An Islamist is a great friend of Trump's!

To say that we don’t know what’s going on except whats being released and do not know what’s being said within those negotiations is a literal fact. It’s not speculation, it’s not an opinion. We do no know the details of they’re discussing. Fuck, as far as I can tell we don’t even know WHO Trump and his negotiating team are even negotiating with. We don’t even know if the gay Ayatollah is even alive.

[chaos]

About Israel trying to provoke a war with Turkey.

isreal tries to provoke war with everyone.

[Van_Bilderass]

Cliffs?
Let me guess....Coach is stupid for his opinion, your opinion is right. Trump is also stupid and the rest of the world is turning on him, again.
About right?

How lazy can you be, it would take 10 seconds to quickly skim the post

I did not say I was right and he was wrong exactly. I said we are all speculating and he's complaining about everyone else's speculation when he's doing the same. You know Coach, he's always calling for bans of people on here and trying to silence others and declaring himself the winner when no one agrees. He should have been a cop, he's the exact type, likes to boss people around Regarding the world turning against him, well when was the "world" not against him? However I think the old MAGA faithful who supported Trump for a decade, who Trump called losers for not supporting the Jew agenda, would forgive everything very quickly if Trump extracts himself from this mess. They will call him very brave. Doug McGregor already said this deal was very brave since the Jews and the donors are so strong.



This reply was probably too long for you as well so here's the cliffs:

I didn't say that.

To say that we don’t know what’s going on except whats being released and do not know what’s being said within those negotiations is a literal fact. It’s not speculation, it’s not an opinion. We do no know the details of they’re discussing. Fuck, as far as I can tell we don’t even know WHO Trump and his negotiating team are even negotiating with. We don’t even know if the gay Ayatollah is even alive.

Well I obviously agree that we don't know what is said behind closed doors, duh!
We can still have an opinion on what is said publicly and what is actually done, you can draw inferences from that.

In my opinion, if you want to know what is said in these negotiations between Iran and the US/Trump the safe bet is listening to what the Iranians say. I would say it's pretty much a fact that they have been way less deceptive and everything they said they would do they have done.

FFS, even Israeli media said they don't pay much attention to what Trump says, they wait for the Iranian statements! LMAO. Imagine that, the country that is at war with Iran listens to the Iranians for the facts!

Regarding who Trump is negotiating with. This is another thing Trump is constantly lying about. He's said he's talked to the Iranians directly or he'll claim the Iranians called him at the White House begging for a deal. This obvious bullshit, both the Iranians and the Pakistani mediators have said there have been no direct communications. A number of days ago Trump claimed he talked to Hezbollah directly. Another bullshit claim. He's going through some non-Hezbollah Lebanese mediator. I too don't know if the Ayatollah is alive BUT Trump talked about him as if he's alive, and Trump should know better than us right? Explain to me WTF this is if Trump and US intelligence doesn't know if he's alive?!

"Younger. I think more rational. Injured. He’s pretty badly injured. So there’s a certain bravery there. A lot of people, if they were injured that badly, they wouldn’t be talking about, you know, how we’re doing with the United States. They’d have other things on their mind."

Trump's fucking praising him for his bravery. He also said he'd be "honored" to meet him but the Iranians said forget about it, obviously. The Zionists fucking killed his father and wife and several other members of his family, so Trump's got some nerve

[chaos]

How lazy can you be, it would take 10 seconds to quickly skim the post

When it comes to your kind, almost all of your posts are the same. You might find a new meme or cartoon to post, but for the most part they're pretty standard.

I did not say I was right and he was wrong exactly.

Right, same post, slightly different wording, new meme/cartoon, another unsubstantiated rumor.

[Necrosis]

Cliffs?
Let me guess....Coach is stupid for his opinion, your opinion is right. Trump is also stupid and the rest of the world is turning on him, again.
About right?

A moment of perspicacity!! it's finally dawning on you after all the failures continue to pile up you are on the dumb side.

[Van_Bilderass]

When it comes to your kind, almost all of your posts are the same. You might find a new meme or cartoon to post, but for the most part they're pretty standard.
Right, same post, slightly different wording, new meme/cartoon, another unsubstantiated rumor.

As opposed to your posts? WTF is your contribution except the same constant complaining? WTF is the problem, just scroll the fuck on through if you're not interested and shut your bitch ass up LOL. Are you even funny? I can't think of one interesting or funny thing you've said, ever. I'm not a comedian and I'm too wordy but if someone isn't up to date on, but somewhat interested in certain things I provide information, and when it comes to all things bodybuilding some experience too. I don't even know if you talk about your lifting, if you even lift

But you're a mod so I guess you decide on what is appropriate here and I'm not it LOL. Coach's posts are so much better, very similar to yours.

[chaos]

As opposed to your posts? WTF is your contribution except the same constant complaining? WTF is the problem, just scroll the fuck on through if you're not interested and shut your bitch ass up LOL. Are you even funny? I can't think of one interesting or funny thing you've said, ever. I'm not a comedian and I'm too wordy but if someone isn't up to date on, but somewhat interested in certain things I provide information, and when it comes to all things bodybuilding some experience too. I don't even know if you talk about your lifting, if you even lift

But you're a mod so I guess you decide on what is appropriate here and I'm not it LOL. Coach's posts are so much better, very similar to yours.

Foreigner meltdown.

[IroNat]

[Van_Bilderass]

Former Israeli prime minister Ehud Olmert.

Paraphrased, "Obama was a failure at everything, but Israel penetrated the nuclear archives of Iran and we didn't find a shred of evidence that Iran violated the JCPOA agreement. When Trump withdrew from the agreement Iran quickly started to enrich to 60% and we know they have the technical capability to produce a few nuclear bombs. So now Trump had to correct what wouldn't have needed correcting if the JCPOA that Obama signed was still in place. The only solution now is a similar agreement that Obama signed except now Iran gets 300 billion dollars and the unfreezing of Iranian assets worth maybe 25 billion."

"If Israel only had the wisdom to go for a two state solution. Things would calm down and tens of millions of Americans would sigh a sign of relief."

I'd add that now there is the problem of the Straits that Iran controls and can shut at any time.

How much more "in the know" than an Israeli prime minister can you get? I wonder if Coach thinks Olmert is conspiracy theorizing?

[chaos]

Former Israeli prime minister Ehud Olmert.

Paraphrased, "Obama was a failure at everything, but Israel penetrated the nuclear archives of Iran and we didn't find a shred of evidence that Iran violated the JCPOA agreement. When Trump withdrew from the agreement Iran quickly started to enrich to 60% and we know they have the technical capability to produce a few nuclear bombs. So now Trump had to correct what wouldn't have needed correcting if the JCPOA that Obama signed was still in place. The only solution now is a similar agreement that Obama signed except now Iran gets 300 billion dollars and the unfreezing of Iranian assets worth maybe 25 billion."

"If Israel only had the wisdom to go for a two state solution. Things would calm down and tens of millions of Americans would sigh a sign of relief."

I'd add that now there is the problem of the Straits that Iran controls and can shut at any time.

How much more "in the know" than an Israeli prime minister can you get? I wonder if Coach thinks Olmert is conspiracy theorizing?

Ehud Olmert was prime minister until 2009, the jcpoa was signed in 2015, Trump pulled out in 2018, same year supposedly the mossad penetrated the nuclear archives.

Paraphased, more speculation and bullshit from MR Van "I gave up on my own country so I'll criticize yours" BilderASS