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Re: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"
« Reply #3375 on: August 06, 2026, 06:58:44 AM »
I don't see why Iran doesn't just buy some nukes from Russia or China. Why waste time trying to reinvent the wheel?
They don´t want a new Kid on the Block

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Re: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"
« Reply #3376 on: August 06, 2026, 09:11:35 AM »
Huge difference between us and them. But it probably wouldn’t be a bad idea to push the button to eliminate this vermin but we’re civilized and won’t. At this point if they had it they wouldn’t hesitate

https://www.foxnews.com/live-news/iran-war-us-trump-hormuz-august-6

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Re: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"
« Reply #3377 on: August 06, 2026, 09:36:40 AM »
I don't see why Iran doesn't just buy some nukes from Russia or China. Why waste time trying to reinvent the wheel?

I see zero chance of either China or Russia supplying them. Probably the same for North Korea and Pakistan. Any responsible state wouldn't want proliferation, it's bad all around. Even Iran doesn't want them but pushed too far they might feel the need to reverse the fatwa, I don't know the chances of that happening. Like many experts say Iran could have made nukes for a long time now but has so far decided against it. Announcing one is also mega risky, you risk the Israelis immediately nuking them hoping they only have one or two with uncertain delivery mechanisms. Boomers like Coach who consume Fox news slop simply do not understand anything. Him being a Christian anf advocating mass murder and eradicating thousands of years old ancient civilizations by a 250 year old civilization... vomit inducing Satanic peak boomerism. Nukes are of the devil, they shouldn't exist. No concept of the culture that is in and came from Persia, all the boomers see is some crazed towelhead. Iran's statesmen are PhDs and war veterans, America's are draft dodging pedo protecting reality TV show hosts. Compare an Iranian gentleman like Marandi above to Fox news opinion makers. JFC! what madness. I encourage everyone to watch just a few minutes of the vid I put up.

I'm not religious but I'm praying for Iran. This is good vs evil.

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Re: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"
« Reply #3378 on: August 06, 2026, 11:07:14 AM »
Feld Coreyman win yet?

Iran win yet?

Ukraine win yet?
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Re: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"
« Reply #3379 on: August 06, 2026, 11:13:07 AM »
I don't see why Iran doesn't just buy some nukes from Russia or China. Why waste time trying to reinvent the wheel?
Russia and China hate Eeron.
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Re: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"
« Reply #3380 on: August 06, 2026, 11:48:51 AM »
I don't see why Iran doesn't just buy some nukes from Russia or China. Why waste time trying to reinvent the wheel?

Because they’re not as uncivilized as Iran/IRGC and know they gave it to them they wouldn’t hesitate to use it.

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Re: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"
« Reply #3381 on: August 06, 2026, 03:50:59 PM »
Because they’re not as uncivilized as Iran/IRGC and know they gave it to them they wouldn’t hesitate to use it.

Your underestimation of their sophistication and civilization is stereotypical american stuff.

The government isn't the people either.


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Re: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"
« Reply #3382 on: August 07, 2026, 05:08:44 AM »
Your underestimation of their sophistication and civilization is stereotypical american stuff.

He says he's the only one on here who "actually reads" and "researches" and actually "knows people." Sophistication is his middle name, deep knowledge of history, civilization and culture, particularly as it pertains to West Asia.

However, if China and Russia are so civilized, how come they are assisting uncivilized and irrational Iran with satellite targeting (e.g. of secret CIA locations), air defense, drones, possibly missiles?

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Re: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"
« Reply #3383 on: August 07, 2026, 06:07:14 AM »
Because they’re not as uncivilized as Iran/IRGC and know they gave it to them they wouldn’t hesitate to use it.
If they did they'd be wiped out by everyone else. If I were an Iranian leader I would try to purchase and if they don't sell they aren't really allies and I would stop supporting them.

I'm also interested on why we keep hearing how dangerous Iran is and how they wouldn't hesitate in just nuking someone. How many wars has Iran been in since 1900? So far the US is the only country to use nukes on a country that was ready to surrender weeks earlier but yet always accuse others of being irresponsible. I sense projection going on.

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Re: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"
« Reply #3384 on: August 07, 2026, 06:41:40 AM »
If they did they'd be wiped out by everyone else. If I were an Iranian leader I would try to purchase and if they don't sell they aren't really allies and I would stop supporting them.

I'm also interested on why we keep hearing how dangerous Iran is and how they wouldn't hesitate in just nuking someone. How many wars has Iran been in since 1900? So far the US is the only country to use nukes on a country that was ready to surrender weeks earlier but yet always accuse others of being irresponsible. I sense projection going on.

Again, this assumes rational behavior.

Doesn't take into consideration martyrdom, fanaticism, etc.

As for the bolded, what?

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Historians’ debate
There is no consensus that Japan was on the verge of unconditional surrender without the bombs (or without the Soviet entry). Traditional accounts emphasize the bombs’ shock effect in breaking the deadlock and avoiding a costly invasion. Revisionist views (and some postwar surveys such as the U.S. Strategic Bombing Survey) argue Japan would likely have surrendered later in 1945 under continued blockade, conventional bombing, and Soviet pressure, making the bombs unnecessary or primarily aimed at signaling to the Soviets. More recent scholarship (e.g., Tsuyoshi Hasegawa) often assigns greater weight to the Soviet invasion in destroying Japan’s remaining hope of mediated terms via Moscow, while still recognizing the bombs’ contribution to urgency and the Emperor’s decision. What is clear from Japanese records and contemporaneous U.S. intelligence is that Tokyo had not accepted unconditional surrender—and the military was prepared to continue fighting—before those events.
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Re: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"
« Reply #3385 on: August 07, 2026, 07:17:29 AM »
Again, this assumes rational behavior.

Doesn't take into consideration martyrdom, fanaticism, etc.

They've had a lot of opportunities to act irrationally and fanatically. I know you don't agree, but I think, so far, they've acted extremely rationally, cautiously and intelligently. I mean they've already managed to get the U.S. to sign one surrender document and have been able to make the U.S. think twice about going through with another massive attack. They've driven out the enemy from their bases in the Middle East, perhaps permanently. However this ends, this may mark the time when Iran along with the 'Axis of Resistance' along with China and Russia forced multipolarity on the world, as opposed to U.S. hegemony. We don't have to love Islam or the regime to see that. Where's the irrationality and fanatical suicidality? Furthermore, Iran was intelligent in investing in cheap missiles and drones and little speed boats instead of for example an air force or a big navy.

As I've said many times before, Iran could destroy Israel with conventional weapons, they don't need a nuke for that. But they haven't been suicidal fanatics. They are ready to die for their cause, yes, but they obviously want their civilization to go on.

Saudi has been a breeding ground for Sunni Salafist extremists. The 9/11 attackers came from there. This is who Trump wants to give nuclear. In my view the Sunni are the true extremists and terrorists. But the U.S. of course has built and given aid to all these terrorist groups like Al Qaeda, ISIS, Hay'at Tahrir al-Sham (HTS) etc. Trump blamed Obama for ISIS but then Trump helps and praises rebranded Al Qaeda leaders himself. The U.S. helped the Mujahideen of Afghanistan, that later became the Taliban, to goad Russia into 'their Vietnam' in Afghanistan.

Rambo III end credits. Hollywood of course was a very powerful propaganda arm of the U.S. deep state, but Hollywood is as good as dead now.

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Re: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"
« Reply #3386 on: August 07, 2026, 07:28:00 AM »
So far the US is the only country to use nukes on a country that was ready to surrender weeks earlier but yet always accuse others of being irresponsible.
That's just not true despite what your revisionist history may be trying to teach you. That's like saying Eeron wants to surrender now, because a few Eeronians want to stop the fighting. As long as the Eeronian military continues to fight, just like the Japs did, they should be considered an enemy.
Liar!!!!Filt!!!!

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Re: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"
« Reply #3387 on: August 07, 2026, 07:59:00 AM »
They've had a lot of opportunities to act irrationally and fanatically. I know you don't agree, but I think, so far, they've acted extremely rationally, cautiously and intelligently. I mean they've already managed to get the U.S. to sign one surrender document and have been able to make the U.S. think twice about going through with another massive attack. They've driven out the enemy from their bases in the Middle East, perhaps permanently. However this ends, this may mark the time when Iran along with the 'Axis of Resistance' along with China and Russia forced multipolarity on the world, as opposed to U.S. hegemony. We don't have to love Islam or the regime to see that. Where's the irrationality and fanatical suicidality? Furthermore, Iran was intelligent in investing in cheap missiles and drones and little speed boats instead of for example an air force or a big navy.

As I've said many times before, Iran could destroy Israel with conventional weapons, they don't need a nuke for that. But they haven't been suicidal fanatics. They are ready to die for their cause, yes, but they obviously want their civilization to go on.

Saudi has been a breeding ground for Sunni Salafist extremists. The 9/11 attackers came from there. This is who Trump wants to give nuclear. In my view the Sunni are the true extremists and terrorists. But the U.S. of course has built and given aid to all these terrorist groups like Al Qaeda, ISIS, Hay'at Tahrir al-Sham (HTS) etc. Trump blamed Obama for ISIS but then Trump helps and praises rebranded Al Qaeda leaders himself. The U.S. helped the Mujahideen of Afghanistan, that later became the Taliban, to goad Russia into 'their Vietnam' in Afghanistan.

Rambo III end credits. Hollywood of course was a very powerful propaganda arm of the U.S. deep state, but Hollywood is as good as dead now.

By starting proxy wars with terrorist groups, mass executing citizens, flogging women, etc?  I am not going to judge them based on solely on the current situation, but their overall behavior since the Shah was removed.

Keep rooting for evil though.
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Re: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"
« Reply #3388 on: August 07, 2026, 02:42:23 PM »
By starting proxy wars with terrorist groups, mass executing citizens, flogging women, etc?  I am not going to judge them based on solely on the current situation, but their overall behavior since the Shah was removed.

Keep rooting for evil though.

Respectfully, I obviously completely reject this Zionist neocon conception of what terrorism and EVIL is. The ideology is not internally consistent. Zionists such as yourself or Coach never even attempt to explain why the U.S. support of terrorist groups is NOT evil. The U.S. has openly funded proxy terrorist groups a thousand times over what Iran has. From the Mujahideen in Afghanistan to Al Qaeda to ISIS to HTS and dozens of other Islamist terrorist groups. Trump said Obama built ISIS. Is this not evil? I've posted the pics of head chopper Sharaa (Jolani or whatever he calls himself), killer of Americans in Iraq, being warmly welcomed by Trump into the White House a hundred times but people like Coach or you don't even attempt to defend it. "He is handsome and has a STRONG past" Trump said admiringly. Very obviously 'evil' and terrorism is fine if it furthers Israeli goals. Madeleine Albright famously said it's worth it to kill 500,000 innocent Iraqi children.

It won't happen but imagine this: the U.S. reins in expansionist genocidal Israel and forces it to become a normal country. Imagine if the U.S. truly forces Israel to make peace with Palestinians (if I'm not mistaken the two state solution is still official goal). If Iran isn't threatened by Zionists and the Palestine issue is solved Iran stops helping proxy 'terrorists' and Iran won't have a reason to want a nuke, not that it wants one now. Ironically, Israel has funded Hamas to the tune of hundreds of millions of dollars so the Palestinians won't unify, as Netanyahu has said. As things stand, Israel is at war with the whole world, including the U.S. as per Netanyahu's own words. Israeli politicians have recently said Qatar is a bigger problem than Iran, a bigger funder of terrorism. Israel has said after Iran comes war with Turkey. Other named enemies in the region include nuclear armed Pakistan.

Many would argue Iran is on the side of what 'true' America is. Look at the 'old MAGA' and what it's saying. Only a third of American support the Iran war if I'm not mistaken. Israel has totally subjugated America and made it fight its forever wars, killing thousands of gentile Americans and millions of innocent civilians in the middle east.

When does it all end?

TL;DR: I'm siding with evil? Respectfully, you got it ass backwards ;)

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Re: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"
« Reply #3389 on: August 07, 2026, 03:46:57 PM »
I would like the US to bring all of our troops home and leave the rest of the world to fuck off.
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Re: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"
« Reply #3390 on: August 07, 2026, 04:08:40 PM »
the US is addicted to war. They are in one war after another.

One of the most violent countries on the go.

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Re: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"
« Reply #3391 on: August 08, 2026, 03:45:52 AM »
I would like the US to bring all of our troops home and leave the rest of the world to fuck off.

Agree. We'd be far better off this way.

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Re: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"
« Reply #3392 on: August 08, 2026, 03:59:59 AM »
I would like the US to bring all of our troops home and leave the rest of the world to fuck off.
It would save a lot of refugees flooding Europe & save useless Wars

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Re: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"
« Reply #3393 on: August 08, 2026, 07:17:28 AM »
It would save a lot of refugees flooding Europe & save useless Wars
Make up your mind Mr Die Linke, are they refugees or invaders? ;)
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Re: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"
« Reply #3394 on: August 08, 2026, 07:54:41 AM »
Make up your mind Mr Die Linke, are they illegal refugees or invaders? ;)
stupid Question  :D

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Re: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"
« Reply #3395 on: August 08, 2026, 08:22:49 AM »
That's just not true despite what your revisionist history may be trying to teach you. That's like saying Eeron wants to surrender now, because a few Eeronians want to stop the fighting. As long as the Eeronian military continues to fight, just like the Japs did, they should be considered an enemy.
How is what I said revisionist history? Which other countries have used nukes against another?

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Re: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"
« Reply #3396 on: August 08, 2026, 11:14:04 AM »
How is what I said revisionist history? Which other countries have used nukes against another?
The Japs were not "ready to surrender weeks earlier", that is a highly disputed claim. Like I said, that is like saying Eeron wants to surrender now, sure some of it's citizens might, but the military and government does not. The Japs also didn't surrender after the first time we dropped sunshine on them.
Would not dispute the fact that the US dropped the sun twice.
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Re: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"
« Reply #3397 on: August 09, 2026, 01:56:19 AM »

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Re: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"
« Reply #3398 on: August 09, 2026, 03:54:23 AM »
Crazy how you guys lost this war. Seemed like a pretty easy win. Draining your missiles as well. Are they trying to get more money for their buddies in the military industrial complex? what are the still bombing?

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Re: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"
« Reply #3399 on: August 09, 2026, 03:04:40 PM »
https://www.cnbc.com/2026/08/09/israel-rejects-trumps-15-point-plan-for-gaza-netanyahu-says.html

Netanyahu says Trump’s new Gaza plan is unacceptable
Published Sun, Aug 9 20269:22 AM EDT
Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin ⁠Netanyahu restated his rejection of U.S. President Donald Trump’s latest Gaza plan in televised remarks to his right-wing government on Sunday, even as Israel’s military has effectively halted attacks in the territory under pressure from ​Trump.
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