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Re: Virginia gerrymandering vote
« Reply #100 on: April 29, 2026, 06:29:22 AM »
Maybe you should read the thread, LurkingforBOYS

Maybe you should read the question I was asked, GAYaos.

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Re: Virginia gerrymandering vote
« Reply #101 on: April 29, 2026, 06:32:35 AM »
And how do you know this when the jury was not required to find that he falsified business records?

Here is a little help:

Judge Merchan issued legally incorrect jury instructions
• Judge Merchan instructed the jurors that they “need not be unanimous as to
what those unlawful means were.”2
• Judge Merchan provided the jury with three options of “unlawful means”: a
violation of Federal election law, violation of tax law, or falsification of records.
• Under these instructions, the jury was not required to agree on the underlying
crime Trump committed. It could have been split 4-4-4 among the three vague,
distinct options provided by the judge.
• The jury was ultimately only unanimous with respect to half of the elements.
• The underlying crime and the jurors’ agreement on it remain entirely unknown.


https://aflegal.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/07/Merged-One-Pagers.pdf

Sounds like he might want to pay more attention to checks he signs then. 

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Re: Virginia gerrymandering vote
« Reply #102 on: April 29, 2026, 06:33:47 AM »
I voted for Trump twice.  I didn't only vote twice, you lying zombie.  Wait.  Are you just outright lying, or do you just not understand what I said?

So reading the first two sentences of a reply is your limit? 

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Re: Virginia gerrymandering vote
« Reply #103 on: April 29, 2026, 09:45:33 PM »

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Re: Virginia gerrymandering vote
« Reply #104 on: April 29, 2026, 09:46:35 PM »
Sounds like he might want to pay more attention to checks he signs then.

That's your response?  Do you understand that there is no way to tell whether or not the jury determined that Trump falsified business records?  I gave you the info. 

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Re: Virginia gerrymandering vote
« Reply #105 on: April 29, 2026, 09:47:00 PM »
So reading the first two sentences of a reply is your limit?

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Re: Virginia gerrymandering vote
« Reply #106 on: April 29, 2026, 10:11:47 PM »
Virginia Supreme Court leaves order temporarily blocking redistricting certification in place
by Sophie Brams - 04/29/26
https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/5854983-virginia-supreme-court-redistricting/

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Re: Virginia gerrymandering vote
« Reply #107 on: April 30, 2026, 05:28:56 AM »
That's your response?  Do you understand that there is no way to tell whether or not the jury determined that Trump falsified business records?  I gave you the info.

Do you understand if he hadn't signed those checks that he would have never been in front of a jury?

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Re: Virginia gerrymandering vote
« Reply #108 on: April 30, 2026, 08:42:50 AM »
Do you understand if he hadn't signed those checks that he would have never been in front of a jury?
Do you realize of dems didn't have TDS he would never have been in front of a jury?
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Re: Virginia gerrymandering vote
« Reply #109 on: April 30, 2026, 09:06:35 AM »
Do you realize of dems didn't have TDS he would never have been in front of a jury?

I didn't know Michael Cohen was a Dem. 

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Re: Virginia gerrymandering vote
« Reply #110 on: April 30, 2026, 09:47:32 AM »
I didn't know Michael Cohen was a Dem.
You don't have to be a dem to have TDS, RetardforBOYS.
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Re: Virginia gerrymandering vote
« Reply #111 on: April 30, 2026, 02:34:51 PM »
Do you understand if he hadn't signed those checks that he would have never been in front of a jury?


Just playing devils advocate here, I am small fucking potatoes, but I can see how running the enterprise he does that you can sign a lot of shit and never really fully read it.

I know I do, and I don’t have shit compared to him and all the paperwork drives me crazy. Shit, I even have an in house controller and I still get caught looking sometimes.

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Re: Virginia gerrymandering vote
« Reply #112 on: April 30, 2026, 04:34:09 PM »
You don't have to be a dem to have TDS, RetardforBOYS.

Don't try and confuse him with the facts.  I know I've said this before, but I've tried to have a rational discussion with him and he's just not capable of doing it.

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Re: Virginia gerrymandering vote
« Reply #113 on: Today at 11:39:42 AM »
You don't have to be a dem to have TDS, RetardforBOYS.

No but you have to be fat and stupid to deflect constantly GAYaos.

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Re: Virginia gerrymandering vote
« Reply #114 on: Today at 11:42:47 AM »
That's your response?  Do you understand that there is no way to tell whether or not the jury determined that Trump falsified business records?  I gave you the info.

Maybe you should try this info :

Yes, it is possible to tell that the jury determined Donald Trump falsified business records.

On May 30, 2024, a New York jury unanimously found him guilty on all 34 felony counts of Falsifying Business Records in the First Degree.  Here is how that determination was made and how it can be verified:

1. The Verdict Sheet (Public Record)The jury filled out a public Verdict Sheet in the Manhattan criminal trial (Indictment No. 71543-23). The sheet clearly lists "GUILTY" for all 34 counts, which included:11 invoices from Michael Cohen to the Trump Organization.11 checks and stubs used to pay Cohen.12 general ledger entries from the Trump Organization.

2. What "Guilty" Specifically Means HereTo reach this verdict, the jury had to unanimously conclude beyond a reasonable doubt that:Trump created or caused false entries to be made in the business records of the Trump Organization.He did so with the intent to defraud.The falsification was done to conceal or commit a separate crime (making it a felony under New York law), such as violating tax or election laws.

3. Jury ConfirmationWhen the verdict was read in court, the jury foreperson stated "Guilty" 34 consecutive times. Following this, Judge Juan Merchan asked the jury if the verdict was unanimous, and each juror confirmed it individually.


That really was like a 3 second search.

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Re: Virginia gerrymandering vote
« Reply #115 on: Today at 12:43:44 PM »
No but you have to be fat and stupid to deflect constantly GAYaos.
Well you are fat and stupid....and gay and probably on a watch list because of your blue hair and flapjack titties.
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Re: Virginia gerrymandering vote
« Reply #116 on: Today at 12:53:45 PM »
Well you are fat and stupid....and gay and probably on a watch list because of your blue hair and flapjack titties.

I see you discovered mirrors.  Or is this one of the 12 Step Program requirements?  Admitting your flaws? 

Fat - check
Stupid - check
Gay - CHECK
titties - CHECK

The only things you left off of was the conehead, cankles and shitty ass prison tattoos.  But I am sure you will get around to this in Part Two.  But good start.  Self admittance is a step to overcoming your constant projections.

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Re: Virginia gerrymandering vote
« Reply #117 on: Today at 01:14:47 PM »
I see you discovered mirrors.  Or is this one of the 12 Step Program requirements?  Admitting your flaws? 

Fat - check
Stupid - check
Gay - CHECK
titties - CHECK

The only things you left off of was the conehead, cankles and shitty ass prison tattoos.  But I am sure you will get around to this in Part Two.  But good start.  Self admittance is a step to overcoming your constant projections.
Typical of you blue haired, nose ringed type, reading comprehension is out of your capacity.
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Re: Virginia gerrymandering vote
« Reply #118 on: Today at 03:57:54 PM »
Maybe you should try this info :

Yes, it is possible to tell that the jury determined Donald Trump falsified business records.

On May 30, 2024, a New York jury unanimously found him guilty on all 34 felony counts of Falsifying Business Records in the First Degree.  Here is how that determination was made and how it can be verified:

1. The Verdict Sheet (Public Record)The jury filled out a public Verdict Sheet in the Manhattan criminal trial (Indictment No. 71543-23). The sheet clearly lists "GUILTY" for all 34 counts, which included:11 invoices from Michael Cohen to the Trump Organization.11 checks and stubs used to pay Cohen.12 general ledger entries from the Trump Organization.

2. What "Guilty" Specifically Means HereTo reach this verdict, the jury had to unanimously conclude beyond a reasonable doubt that:Trump created or caused false entries to be made in the business records of the Trump Organization.He did so with the intent to defraud.The falsification was done to conceal or commit a separate crime (making it a felony under New York law), such as violating tax or election laws.

3. Jury ConfirmationWhen the verdict was read in court, the jury foreperson stated "Guilty" 34 consecutive times. Following this, Judge Juan Merchan asked the jury if the verdict was unanimous, and each juror confirmed it individually.


That really was like a 3 second search.

I get that you are unable to understand what actually happened--and frankly you're just dishonest--but for the benefit of anyone else reading, no one knows what the underlying crime was.  Here is a repost of I provided earlier:

Judge Merchan issued legally incorrect jury instructions
• Judge Merchan instructed the jurors that they “need not be unanimous as to
what those unlawful means were.”2
Judge Merchan provided the jury with three options of “unlawful means”: a
violation of Federal election law, violation of tax law, or falsification of record
s.
Under these instructions, the jury was not required to agree on the underlying
crime Trump committed. It could have been split 4-4-4 among the three vague,
distinct options provided by the judge
.
• The jury was ultimately only unanimous with respect to half of the elements.
• The underlying crime and the jurors’ agreement on it remain entirely unknown.

https://aflegal.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/07/Merged-One-Pagers.pdf

In other words, only one of the three options the jury was given included "falsification of records," but we don't know if that is the underlying crime they selected.