Virginia gerrymandering vote

[chaos]

Is this your self loathing version of TDS about what facts do?  No wonder you are a pivotin, raving faggot.

Much like your gender, this post makes no sense.

[LurkerNoMore]

Much like your gender, this post makes no sense.

Much like heterosexuality, testosterone and masculine characteristics are lost on you GAYaos?

[Dos Equis]

While you may be saying we don't know the underlying theory they chose, we know the underlying crime.  Falsification of business records with intent.

You got it backward.  They found he used unlawful means.  Falsification of business records was one of three unlawful means they could have picked.  We don't know which one they picked. 

[Dos Equis]

There was even more to it than that, but we've been over it.

This one was bound to be overturned on it's own merit.

It accomplished it's mission - to get the talking point out and have the sheep parrot it.

Smart people saw it for what it is, and not let it affect anything.

They had to engage in gymnastics, doing something that had never been done, using a ridiculous set of facts, over something that should be akin to a parking ticket. 

[LurkerNoMore]

You got it backward.  They found he used unlawful means.  Falsification of business records was one of three unlawful means they could have picked.  We don't know which one they picked.

Doesn't matter which one they picked.  They unanimously agreed that Trump was guilty on all 34 counts.

[Necrosis]

Doesn't matter which one they picked.  They unanimously agreed that Trump was guilty on all 34 counts.

Yes but that doesn't count and he isnt a rapist either! its all made up! the 2020 election was stolen as well and trump finished first in his class despite records showing otherwise. The man doesn't lie!

[chaos]

Yes but that doesn't count and he isnt a rapist either! its all made up! the 2020 election was stolen as well and trump finished first in his class despite records showing otherwise. The man doesn't lie!

Glad to see you're slowly opening your eyes.

[Necrosis]

Glad to see you're slowly opening your eyes.

I think you actually believe what I said above about Trump.

[chaos]

I think you actually believe what I said above about Trump.

I don't believe anything you post. You are a notorious fibber.

[Necrosis]

I don't believe anything you post. You are a notorious fibber.

name ten times i lied?

[chaos]

name ten times i lied?

Open your post history and see for yourself.

[Necrosis]

Open your post history and see for yourself.

oh so you can't even name ten lies?

[Dos Equis]

Doesn't matter which one they picked.  They unanimously agreed that Trump was guilty on all 34 counts.

So you say this:

For falsifying business records.

I try and help you understand we don't know if the jury found that he falsfified business records:

• Judge Merchan provided the jury with three options of “unlawful means”: a
violation of Federal election law, violation of tax law, or falsification of records.
• Under these instructions, the jury was not required to agree on the underlying
crime Trump committed. It could have been split 4-4-4 among the three vague,
distinct options provided by the judge.
• The jury was ultimately only unanimous with respect to half of the elements.
• The underlying crime and the jurors’ agreement on it remain entirely unknown.

https://aflegal.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/07/Merged-One-Pagers.pdf

Now you say it doesn't matter whether or not the jury actually found that he falsified business records. 

[chaos]

oh so you can't even name ten lies?

Lie#1^^^

Lie #2

The retarded thing is it's likely effecting the markets, they would be even higher without all this bullshit lololol.

Lie#3

you pusillanimous pugnacious truculent troglodyte

Lie#4

All exoteric religious people are retarded. You can't convince me otherwise.

Lie#5

He clearly should be impeached. He is as corrupt as they come. The bitcoin thing should of been the end of it. No reasonable person thinks its fine to scam, rob and defraud folks of their money whilst being alive let alone the president. He then rug pulled again with Melania. It's disgusting behaviour. The ballroom thing is another fucking debacle. How about the tariffs, basically stealing from consumers whilst lying to them about who is paying. He is hocking shit from the white house like it's a temu distribution center, pretending to make folks insiders if they give him money... lol. it's what plants crave!

Threatening to attack a friendly in Greenland and causing a shit show. Talking about building hotels in Gaza. Starting a war costing the whole world after clearly lying about the previous attack, bankrupting farmers and having to us taxpayer money to bail them out. Waging economic war on friends and allies.

I mean I could go on how horrendous of a human being this man is but it appears tons of magatards are already turning on him. It's a never ending shit show.

Congress is doing literally nothing. Won't matter, mid-terms will be a nightmare,  the world can rest a bit easier knowing that one of the biggest imbeciles on the planet is neutered.

Lie#6

https://github.com/abdoqwert0112/5/blob/main/readme.md#12-new-photos-of-trump-in-epsteins-files


Who isn't friends with a pedophile. This guy has more pics with this man then I do with my wife lol.

Lie#7

wasnt this predicted before the event? that there would be a mic drop moment? a big event was reported.

The guy is clearly getting a ton of money from the ballroom for favors lol. It's not even disclosed to congress how he is funding it nor by whom- just donors.

Then you have tards like Chaos who cheer him on while he makes a mockery of your country.

The guy is dying and can't get enough money. The greed is insane .

Lie#8

Nothing to see here folks, Patel only has two arrests for being a drunk. Definitely a hit piece.

It's not like you could literally know nothing about him and just assume he is incompetent because he is willing to work with trump. Surely the self-proclaimed extraordinarily brilliant man surrounds himself with nothing but the best and isn't giving out positions based on fealty or anything.

I just got my welfare cheque. I am thinking trump coins a safe place to park some money.

Lie#9

No doubt he is grifting.

Man is a rapist criminal.

Lie#10

there is an accusation in the files and another from a limo driver regarding things he said with epstein. He has been accused of sexual assault by 20 plus women. The judge presiding over the case for carroll said that the jury found the sexual abuse met the common definition of rape. He was found liable. He has bragged about going backstage to view naked girls (some underage) on tape. He said he just grabs women by the pussy- because he is a star

He was best friends with the largest pedophile in the world, who died under his watch suspiciously. He has obfuscated the files and asked to be removed from them according to the FBI. He gave maxwell an all inclusive spa package. He has been found lying about things related to epstein.

Yes this is all just my imagination, it's not context. The guy is a saint. He is the best of the best of course and should be president.

Don't be like the other fools on here, you're better then that. You know I think he is a rapist pedo but would agree I could not prove it and you know it's not because there isn't any smoke.

[Necrosis]

Lie#1^^^

Lie #2
Lie#3
Lie#4
Lie#5
Lie#6
Lie#7
Lie#8
Lie#9
Lie#10

I appreciate the effort, truly. lol

[chaos]

I appreciate the effort, truly. lol

No problem, glad you enjoyed the trip down memory lane.

[LurkerNoMore]

So you say this:

I try and help you understand we don't know if the jury found that he falsfified business records:

• Judge Merchan provided the jury with three options of “unlawful means”: a
violation of Federal election law, violation of tax law, or falsification of records.
• Under these instructions, the jury was not required to agree on the underlying
crime Trump committed. It could have been split 4-4-4 among the three vague,
distinct options provided by the judge.
• The jury was ultimately only unanimous with respect to half of the elements.
• The underlying crime and the jurors’ agreement on it remain entirely unknown.

https://aflegal.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/07/Merged-One-Pagers.pdf

Now you say it doesn't matter whether or not the jury actually found that he falsified business records.

They reached an unanimous agreement that he was guilty on 34 counts.  Are you denying this?  It doesn't matter which of the three choices they took to reach it.  They were not responsible for determining which underlying crime was committed, only that a crime was committed.  They were given parameters and defined options and only had to find at least one of the options applied.   They didn't have to specify what they agreed on.  By your same argument, there is no way to know they didn't all agree on the same one or not.

[chaos]

They reached an unanimous agreement that he was guilty on 34 counts.  Are you denying this?  It doesn't matter which of the three choices they took to reach it.  They were not responsible for determining which underlying crime was committed, only that a crime was committed.  They were given parameters and defined options and only had to find at least one of the options applied.   They didn't have to specify what they agreed on.  By your same argument, there is no way to know they didn't all agree on the same one or not.

[Necrosis]

They reached an unanimous agreement that he was guilty on 34 counts.  Are you denying this?  It doesn't matter which of the three choices they took to reach it.  They were not responsible for determining which underlying crime was committed, only that a crime was committed.  They were given parameters and defined options and only had to find at least one of the options applied.   They didn't have to specify what they agreed on.  By your same argument, there is no way to know they didn't all agree on the same one or not.

He won't answer because it's obvious. The guy has essentially been found guilty of rape and other crimes and is clearly fucking grifting money (fraudulently ) whilst in the whitehouse and these clowns love it.

[chaos]

He won't answer because it's obvious. The guy has essentially been found guilty of rape and other crimes and is clearly fucking grifting money (fraudulently ) whilst in the whitehouse and these clowns love it.

Another lie. Why do liberals lie so much?

[LurkerNoMore]

Of course facts leave you dumbfound.  Oxygen does too apparently.

[Necrosis]

Another lie. Why do liberals lie so much?

I mean he was convicted, so technically and legally it's true.

I suppose if you are a conspiracy theorist it's not true.

[Irongrip400]

You fags quit arguing about shit not germane to this situation.

[Grape Ape]

I mean he was convicted, so technically and legally it's true.

Technically and legally, there are no convictions in civil trials.

[Necrosis]

Technically and legally, there are no convictions in civil trials.

was he not convicted on 34 counts?