Was Zane as perfect as we're told he was?

[galain]

It´s OK ..your opinions but i do believe he was very intelligent & knew what he was doing
He mentioned Steve Reeves & Reeves was another Bodybuilder who developed every thing in proportion, neck, Biceps, waist
Reeves in his Book mentioned his shoulder width too, so i believe Zane had his plan

No doubt. He always sounded very intelligent. But even if you develop everything in proportion, you're still going to be limited by things like skeletal structure, attachments and insertions...I believe Zane probably emphasised this but he was certainly helped by having the right structure and muscle shape. Kovacs could have trained with the same goals in mind and he would have looked stupid.

[WrongAdvices]

IMHO no bodybuilder ever really changes their proportions, for example when they try to emphasize certain muscle groups in training, which is more evidence it's mostly genetic. The guys who are somewhat unproportionate will claim that's actually the look they were going for LOL. Small bodybuilders who can't gain size will claim they don't want a lot of size, they are going for "quality" instead. And so on. Reeves was a genetic freak. Great genes for everything, great proportions and skeletal structure. Steve also believed in complete baloney such as this exercise widening his shoulders:

Arnold changed his calves though, thereby changing his proportions a bit

[wes]

I think I remember Serge actually coming on here and posting that he was slowly being poisoned by his ....daughter? Was it here? This is the only BB related board I visit and back in the day I still only visited a couple of others.

I remember that......who knows,maybe she did 

[Zillotch]

this is within the realm of perfection imo

zane is like paris in that he's not very exciting but becomes stunningly good when in top form - dry and tight - due to structural gifts.

u could inflate this or that... but the overall harmony is undeniable.

[Brenda Steunbeer]

Not a mass monster but balance, symmetry, great skin, proportions. His look appealed to a large part of the population, both male and female.

The same qualities that Steve Reeves had.

[Van_Bilderass]

Arnold changed his calves though, thereby changing his proportions a bit

Yep that usually comes up when discussing this topic. Though I don't think Arnold's calves were ever really that bad from what I remember seeing and he obviously had great attachments and the fibers must have been there. But anyways the exception confirms the rule!

And pellius did miraculously improve his calves

I think I remember Serge actually coming on here and posting that he was slowly being poisoned by his ....daughter? Was it here? This is the only BB related board I visit and back in the day I still only visited a couple of others.

Now that you mention it I do remember that but I don't remember where I saw it either. Now I also remember that Serge went into a coma and then some from France claimed it was an insulin OD. Just a rumor AFAIAC. Maybe Serge was still using speed and in an amphetamine psychosis when he talked about poisoning LOL. Serge had told someone on promuscle he used speed when he was on top, as did many of the others back then.

[tacobender]

Wasn’t he a fag? I do know he lives somewhere in Palm Springs so I should say it all.

[Donny]

This Guy had a Great Physique back in the Day... 

https://ditillo2.blogspot.com/2018/11/john-defendis-interview-bob-gruskin-1979.html

[AbrahamG]

Wasn’t he a fag? I do know he lives somewhere in Palm Springs so I should say it all.

LMFAO.  Detective Tacobender reporting for duty. 

[falco]

Better back than Krizo.

[wes]

Wasn’t he a fag? I do know he lives somewhere in Palm Springs so I should say it all.

^^^^Here`s the fag he`s been married to for 56 years......you fucking weird c0cksucker!

[joswift]

sounds like a swingers club

[wes]

Maybe they`re kinky..... you never know!   

[Humble Narcissist]

sounds like a swingers club

Very attractive wife. I wonder if Arnold ever tried to get with her.

[Donny]

Very attractive wife. I wonder if Arnold ever tried to get with her.

I doubt it she didn´t like fat fucks 

[Humble Narcissist]

I doubt it she didn´t like fat fucks 

Arnold was skinnier than Zane in the late 70's. When Zane ruptured his cock in the 80's she probably had guys all over her.

[NaturalWonder83]

A true legend but was very arrogant. I guess he had a right to be. He wasn’t very friendly when I met him. I feel Zane wouldn’t look down on someone only if they were famous, paying him money, or was a fellow competitor or armed forces vet.

Sergio Oliva was the exact opposite when I met him. Did Zane act like he was the greatest of all time? I would say yes. And I would say he was mistaken to think that.

But I feel he was one of the greatest. He’s not in my Top 5, but I think his training and diet should be studied and get a tip of the hat.

[joswift]

PFFT

Hanky is 220lb, he would bury Zane.,

[Humble Narcissist]

A true legend but was very arrogant. I guess he had a right to be. He wasn’t very friendly when I met him. I feel Zane wouldn’t look down on someone only if they were famous, paying him money, or was a fellow competitor or armed forces vet.

Sergio Oliva was the exact opposite when I met him. Did Zane act like he was the greatest of all time? I would say yes. And I would say he was mistaken to think that.

But I feel he was one of the greatest. He’s not in my Top 5, but I think his training and diet should be studied and get a tip of the hat.

You would think being a school teacher would make someone very humble.

[Donny]

A true legend but was very arrogant. I guess he had a right to be. He wasn’t very friendly when I met him. I feel Zane wouldn’t look down on someone only if they were famous, paying him money, or was a fellow competitor or armed forces vet.

Sergio Oliva was the exact opposite when I met him. Did Zane act like he was the greatest of all time? I would say yes. And I would say he was mistaken to think that.

But I feel he was one of the greatest. He’s not in my Top 5, but I think his training and diet should be studied and get a tip of the hat.

Jerry Brainum said he was a weird guy at times..Zane liked to smoke weed, maybe had mood swings

[Griffith]

A true legend but was very arrogant. I guess he had a right to be. He wasn’t very friendly when I met him. I feel Zane wouldn’t look down on someone only if they were famous, paying him money, or was a fellow competitor or armed forces vet.

Sergio Oliva was the exact opposite when I met him. Did Zane act like he was the greatest of all time? I would say yes. And I would say he was mistaken to think that.

But I feel he was one of the greatest. He’s not in my Top 5, but I think his training and diet should be studied and get a tip of the hat.

Did you meet Sergio Oliva when he was still competing? What were your impressions?

[Van_Bilderass]

but I think his training and diet should be studied

You think we would learn something new?

[NaturalWonder83]

Did you meet Sergio Oliva when he was still competing? What were your impressions?

I met him when he was retired. I think it was one of the last Olympias that Ronnie won. He was so friendly and spoke to me for a while. No one was at his booth and he was happy I wanted to meet him. Big smile on his face and welcoming. Really humble and a kind man.

You think we would learn something new?

His pullovers were intriguing.

Jerry Brainum said he was a weird guy at times..Zane liked to smoke weed, maybe had mood swings

I just remember he was hunched over under his booth’s tent at the expo and seemed angry at anyone who came over to meet him. Not sure why he attended the expo. He reminded me of an angry old man yelling at people who walked on his lawn.

You would think being a school teacher would make someone very humble.

Definitely didn’t seem humble to me. He appeared on edge like a Vietnam Vet with PTSD flashbacks.

[Donny]

You think we would learn something new?

well maybe you should enlighten us with your wisdom as you seem to know better in almost every subject

[wes]

I never met Zane but I overheard Katz,Arnold,Franco,and a few others say he was quiet and didn`t speak much...........Arnold called him a stuck up asshole.

I heard this back when they filmed Pumping Iron.......did I ever tell you guys I was in P.I. ?   LOL