Bodybuilding equipment is getting outlandish

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They look cool but seem to take up a lot of space.

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[Stephano]

People will do anything to avoid dumbbells and barbells, ffs...   

Basically, it's stupid for the same reason a basic smith machine is stupid -- it lacks adjustability and forces all body types into the same groove. 

This is why the best (and usually most popular) machines are the most flexible ones -- lat pulldowns, cable-crossover stations that you can use for almost anything, etc. 

[NaturalWonder83]

Looks unnecessary and reminds me of the Emperor's New Clothes. Smoke and mirrors.

Won't build muscle faster or better than a pull-up, barbell/dumbbell row, Nautilus Pullover, Hammer Strength Iso-Row, or any old 1990's rusted seated cable row with a torn / ripped seat to sit on.

Machines to work every freaking angle. I saw a barbell row machine the other day. Ridiculous crap.

I have had it with all these machines being forced down out throats in every video you watch. The only gyms that have all these high end equipment lines are the influencer gyms with the weird square designs on the ceilings. Or the garbage influencers that are given free equipment for their home gyms.

I'm so sick and tired of hearing about Panatta, Prime, and Arsenal. No normal small gym can afford this crap.

[Stephano]

Looks unnecessary and reminds me of the Emperor's New Clothes. Smoke and mirrors.

Won't build muscle faster or better than a pull-up, barbell/dumbbell row, Nautilus Pullover, Hammer Strength Iso-Row, or any old 1990's rusted seated cable row with a torn / ripped seat to sit on.

Machines to work every freaking angle. I saw a barbell row machine the other day. Ridiculous crap.

I have had it with all these machines being forced down out throats in every video you watch. The only gyms that have all these high end equipment lines are the influencer gyms with the weird square designs on the ceilings. Or the garbage influencers that are given free equipment for their home gyms.

I'm so sick and tired of hearing about Panatta, Prime, and Arsenal. No normal small gym can afford this crap.

I've mentioned this before, but a lot of basic/normie gyms here in Europe have Panatta equipment, and it's really nothing special.  I'd call Panatta mid at best. 

...Some of their machines are among the worst I've ever seen -- e.g. a pec deck that's so mechanically and biomechanically busted that a 100-pound weakling can use the entire stack of weights.

I wouldn't rank Panatta higher than Cybex, Nautilus, or LifeFitness at all.  Maybe lower, actually.

[Donny]

Looks unnecessary and reminds me of the Emperor's New Clothes. Smoke and mirrors.

Won't build muscle faster or better than a pull-up, barbell/dumbbell row, Nautilus Pullover, Hammer Strength Iso-Row, or any old 1990's rusted seated cable row with a torn / ripped seat to sit on.

Machines to work every freaking angle. I saw a barbell row machine the other day. Ridiculous crap.

I have had it with all these machines being forced down out throats in every video you watch. The only gyms that have all these high end equipment lines are the influencer gyms with the weird square designs on the ceilings. Or the garbage influencers that are given free equipment for their home gyms.

I'm so sick and tired of hearing about Panatta, Prime, and Arsenal. No normal small gym can afford this crap.

haha...  If people canīt BB Row ..do DB rows or a bench supported Row.
can do it in a home Gym

[NaturalWonder83]

I've mentioned this before, but a lot of basic/normie gyms here in Europe have Panatta equipment, and it's really nothing special.  I'd call Panatta mid at best. 

...Some of their machines are among the worst I've ever seen -- e.g. a pec deck that's so mechanically and biomechanically busted that a 100-pound weakling can use the entire stack of weights.

I wouldn't rank Panatta higher than Cybex, Nautilus, or LifeFitness at all.  Maybe lower, actually.

I believe you! I'm so sick of seeing these influencers praise Panatta so much.

I've never seen any in person here on the East Coast.

You ever see Hany Rambod's personal gym? I think it's all custom Panatta equipment. He makes Panatta seem like the top of the line, best of the best.

I've heard people in videos refer to Panatta equipment as the "Ferrari of Gym Equipment." Apparently the seats are also supposed to be out of this world comfortable/luxurious.

haha...  If people canīt BB Row ..do DB rows or a bench supported Row.
can do it in a home Gym

The machine's stupid selling point is that it takes the core and lower back out of the exercise. They go to so many lengths just to make the exercise easier and more comfortable. All these new machines make it seem like "God forbid you need to stabilize".

[IroNat]

Arms Race in the commercial gym world.

[BB]

Panatta is really pretty stuff, lots of eye appeal, that helps it. I always stop to look at it. They're also good at getting in with influencers.

Gym equipment has become like comic or tool collecting. Lots of buying and hunting down this or that, but little actual use. Guys with $50,000 - 100,000 gyms that use maybe $5,000 of it at best.

That being said, if I owned a commercial facility, I'd own tons of odd stuff.

[Pet shop boys]

People will do anything to avoid dumbbells and barbells, ffs...   

Basically, it's stupid for the same reason a basic smith machine is stupid -- it lacks adjustability and forces all body types into the same groove. 

This is why the best (and usually most popular) machines are the most flexible ones -- lat pulldowns, cable-crossover stations that you can use for almost anything, etc.

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[Grape Ape]

They look cool but seem to take up a lot of space.

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Probably hired basile as a consultant

[MajorDomo]

People will do anything to avoid dumbbells and barbells hard work, ffs...   

[Van_Bilderass]

I've mentioned this before, but a lot of basic/normie gyms here in Europe have Panatta equipment, and it's really nothing special.  I'd call Panatta mid at best. 

...Some of their machines are among the worst I've ever seen -- e.g. a pec deck that's so mechanically and biomechanically busted that a 100-pound weakling can use the entire stack of weights.

I wouldn't rank Panatta higher than Cybex, Nautilus, or LifeFitness at all.  Maybe lower, actually.

Panatta must be the shittiest stuff I've ever seen. I haven't looked but they must have different lines, the pieces at my gym a horrible. Like  a seated alternate curl when it only starts loading when the arm is at 90 degrees

All the older stuff is best. Like this 3 decade+ old David shoulder press.

[Stephano]

Like  a seated alternate curl when it only starts loading when the arm is at 90 degrees

Hahah, I think I've seen that one before. 

The only Panatta machine I really like is the seated chest press (lol, I know, I know) which is somewhere between a regular chest press and the Hammer Strength "Wide Chest".  The rest of their stuff is mediocre or plain bad.

Speaking of crazy gym equipment, I was once at a gym that had the wall panel in pic attached and it's one of the best things ever.  It seems to me that the most popular piece of equipment in any gym is the cable stack for pec crossovers, curls, pushdowns, whatever.  So it makes sense for companies to focus on making a better version of that, rather than a ridiculous rowing contraption...

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[Grape Ape]

Hahah, I think I've seen that one before. 

The only Panatta machine I really like is the seated chest press (lol, I know, I know) which is somewhere between a regular chest press and the Hammer Strength "Wide Chest".  The rest of their stuff is mediocre or plain bad.

Speaking of crazy gym equipment, I was once at a gym that had the wall panel in pic attached and it's one of the best things ever.  It seems to me that the most popular piece of equipment in any gym is the cable stack for pec crossovers, curls, pushdowns, whatever.  So it makes sense for companies to focus on making a better version of that, rather than a ridiculous rowing contraption...

Thanks for posting that.  I was trying to describe this to someone once, but couldn't and I couldn't remember the name of it.

I was the same was - WTF is that? Then I used it for stuff and it was pretty awesome.

[Humble Narcissist]

Probably hired basile as a consultant

Nah, doesn't have nearly enough moveable parts.

[Van_Bilderass]

Hahah, I think I've seen that one before. 

The only Panatta machine I really like is the seated chest press (lol, I know, I know) which is somewhere between a regular chest press and the Hammer Strength "Wide Chest".  The rest of their stuff is mediocre or plain bad.

Speaking of crazy gym equipment, I was once at a gym that had the wall panel in pic attached and it's one of the best things ever.  It seems to me that the most popular piece of equipment in any gym is the cable stack for pec crossovers, curls, pushdowns, whatever.  So it makes sense for companies to focus on making a better version of that, rather than a ridiculous rowing contraption...

Some people ridicule all machines but it doesn't have to be one or the other. You still see on forums guys asking which is better for muscle building, machines or free weights I've said it before, it's great when you 'discover' a nice machine in your gym. My gym was set up by a competitive bb as if for himself so it has several good pieces but he didn't have unlimited funds either so it doesn't have everything you'd like.

The cable cross stations does seem to be one of the most crowded areas. I have observed blacks in particular like cables for some reason

I've never had the chance to use a horizontal seated leg press like this, but Id like to see how the angles fit my body. I get almost zero range of motion on an angled leg press.

[IroNat]

Most schools have lots of dumbbells in them.

[wes]

Most schools have lots of dumbbells in them.

[Brenda Steunbeer]

"Lift heavy ass weight"....

[Humble Narcissist]

"Lift heavy ass weight"....

He can't even lift that chair now.

[AbrahamG]

Some people ridicule all machines but it doesn't have to be one or the other. You still see on forums guys asking which is better for muscle building, machines or free weights I've said it before, it's great when you 'discover' a nice machine in your gym. My gym was set up by a competitive bb as if for himself so it has several good pieces but he didn't have unlimited funds either so it doesn't have everything you'd like.

The cable cross stations does seem to be one of the most crowded areas. I have observed blacks in particular like cables for some reason

I've never had the chance to use a horizontal seated leg press like this, but Id like to see how the angles fit my body. I get almost zero range of motion on an angled leg press.

They might be lazy. 

[Bevo]

I believe you! I'm so sick of seeing these influencers praise Panatta so much.

I've never seen any in person here on the East Coast.

You ever see Hany Rambod's personal gym? I think it's all custom Panatta equipment. He makes Panatta seem like the top of the line, best of the best.

I've heard people in videos refer to Panatta equipment as the "Ferrari of Gym Equipment." Apparently the seats are also supposed to be out of this world comfortable/luxurious.

The machine's stupid selling point is that it takes the core and lower back out of the exercise. They go to so many lengths just to make the exercise easier and more comfortable. All these new machines make it seem like "God forbid you need to stabilize".

Fuck that bald midget handsey Rimjob