Who's the Getbigger?

[Van_Bilderass]

Don’t like him for one reason. He believes his friend, Doug Miller, is natural and was advocating for his natural status on here.

Did ACH say he himself was also hormone free?

Seems ACH wasn't exactly saying Doug was a nattie, at least in that post, just ridiculing those who "cared." I hate this "money justifies anything" attitude. I really wonder if I have autism because honesty is so important to me

There was never any effective drug testing in any bodybuilding federation, ever. Testing effectively is extremely expensive, there simply never was a way to enforce the rules. If urine samples were given I think they were mostly poured down the drain, it was just for show.

This whole nattie thing was ridiculous on its face from the start anyway. Even without actual banned hormones basically all competitive bodybuilders down tons of synthetic potions. The "natties" probably overall took more drug-like compounds than the actual juicers.

[Dave D]

I think fake natties should be rounded up and executed

In Doug’s defense he looks better as a fake nattie than he did as a natural. Plus with his supplement line he’s laughing all the way to the bank.

[delon]

Did ACH say he himself was also hormone free?

Seems ACH wasn't exactly saying Doug was a nattie, at least in that post, just ridiculing those who "cared." I hate this "money justifies anything" attitude. I really wonder if I have autism because honesty is so important to me

There was never any effective drug testing in any bodybuilding federation, ever. Testing effectively is extremely expensive, there simply never was a way to enforce the rules. If urine samples were given I think they were mostly poured down the drain, it was just for show.

This whole nattie thing was ridiculous on its face from the start anyway. Even without actual banned hormones basically all competitive bodybuilders down tons of synthetic potions. The "natties" probably overall took more drug-like compounds than the actual juicers.

He did in other posts though for eg:

I believe Doug (a good friend of mine) is natural.  Dude competes at like 185 or so, is that REALLy unattainable naturally to you guys?  and he lives and sleeps bodybuilding, takes obssession to a new level, seriously!

But I know none of you guys will believe me so whatever!

[Rambone]

In Doug’s defense he looks better as a fake nattie than he did as a natural. Plus with his supplement line he’s laughing all the way to the bank.

^Big Ach’s burner account

[funk51]

Did ACH say he himself was also hormone free?

Seems ACH wasn't exactly saying Doug was a nattie, at least in that post, just ridiculing those who "cared." I hate this "money justifies anything" attitude. I really wonder if I have autism because honesty is so important to me

There was never any effective drug testing in any bodybuilding federation, ever. Testing effectively is extremely expensive, there simply never was a way to enforce the rules. If urine samples were given I think they were mostly poured down the drain, it was just for show.

This whole nattie thing was ridiculous on its face from the start anyway. Even without actual banned hormones basically all competitive bodybuilders down tons of synthetic potions. The "natties" probably overall took more drug-like compounds than the actual juicers.

   Dennis tinerino won a natural contest, what does that say. Word was that when ken cole   tested positive for PED's chet yorton wept real tears.

[funk51]

   https://fitnessvolt.com/15857/chet-yorton-natural-beat-arnold/

[Dave D]

   Dennis tinerino won a natural contest, what does that say. Word was that when ken cole   tested positive for PED's chet yorton wept real tears.

What the funk are you talking about?

Big Ach wasn’t crying because Doug was testing positive, he was crying because we didn’t believe he was natural. Everyone knows Chet Yorton was mega dosing and once he realized others were using his run was over. He was crying because the bodybuilding money was about to dry up.

[SF1900]

Did ACH say he himself was also hormone free?

Seems ACH wasn't exactly saying Doug was a nattie, at least in that post, just ridiculing those who "cared." I hate this "money justifies anything" attitude. I really wonder if I have autism because honesty is so important to me

There was never any effective drug testing in any bodybuilding federation, ever. Testing effectively is extremely expensive, there simply never was a way to enforce the rules. If urine samples were given I think they were mostly poured down the drain, it was just for show.

This whole nattie thing was ridiculous on its face from the start anyway. Even without actual banned hormones basically all competitive bodybuilders down tons of synthetic potions. The "natties" probably overall took more drug-like compounds than the actual juicers.

There were other posts where he said he was natty and its clear the above post indicates that Big ACH believes Dough Miller is natural.