Hit con man John Heart is wrong again.

[Van_Bilderass]

Is your pain all caused from years of lifting?

No not at all. The reason I took Oxycontin and the reason docs even wrote a script was I have chronic pancreatitis where the pain can approach 10/10. Let me tell you, several times recently I've called an ambulance or taxi (faster than ambulance many times) rushing to hospital screaming, praying and crying like a bitch pleading for help, utter panic They don't write scripts for the good stufff for lifting injuries here, not to me at least. I do have lots of lifting related aches and pains of course having ego lifted since my early teens and trashed my body. Sometimes when my friend gave me codeine before lifting I had sciatica pain or something else but I would have taken them anyway as the session just feels better on mild stuff like this. I did take a tiny 5mg oxy before lifting a couple of times and I felt like I needed to get to bed immediately, soo tired LOL. Plus for some reason that stuff gives me crushing depression, I don't know if that's common

[Humble Narcissist]

No not at all. The reason I took Oxycontin and the reason docs even wrote a script was I have chronic pancreatitis where the pain can approach 10/10. Let me tell you, several times recently I've called an ambulance or taxi (faster than ambulance many times) rushing to hospital screaming, praying and crying like a bitch pleading for help, utter panic They don't write scripts for the good stufff for lifting injuries here, not to me at least. I do have lots of lifting related aches and pains of course having ego lifted since my early teens and trashed my body. Sometimes when my friend gave me codeine before lifting I had sciatica pain or something else but I would have taken them anyway as the session just feels better on mild stuff like this. I did take a tiny 5mg oxy before lifting a couple of times and I felt like I needed to get to bed immediately, soo tired LOL. Plus for some reason that stuff gives me crushing depression, I don't know if that's common

Pancreatitis is a bitch.

[beakdoctor]

Your lucky you didn't get addicted.

Very true.

My first dabble with it was for a legitimate injury and only had so man per my Rx.. Enough to enjoy but not enough to get addicted. That was my first experience with it and it felt so good I would have certainly had a hard time stopping if I had a steady supply.

A few years a later I "came across" a hefty supply. Took it a few times then in a surprising show of will power, flushed the rest down the toilet. At times I regretted doing that but it was probably one of the smarter things I ever did. The guy I got them from DID get addicted and eventually turned to heroin. Sad story. He ended up robbing a convenience store and going to prison. Real shame too. He had a beautiful wife, nice home, a 5 year old son and blew it all.

[Van_Bilderass]

A few years a later I "came across" a hefty supply. Took it a few times then in a surprising show of will power, flushed the rest down the toilet. At times I regretted doing that but it was probably one of the smarter things I ever did.

Yeah having easy access is dangerous. I've been swearing at times about not having any access at times when I've been in severe pain but OTOH it's probably good that they are very restrictive here.

I remembered ESFitness' story. I hope he is doing well.

Let's see...

All starts with starting using Nubain in '00/'01 'bout 6months after  after graduating H.S.

... Then started alcohol to deal with the Nubain withdrawal in '02/'03. Was clean for bout a year, then back on alcohol, then on then to deal with alcohol withdrawal, then clean, then back on alcohol.. Then rehab, where I met the dude who set me up for the robbery.. Then prison '06-'11 lol.

Then Dr put me on Tramadol, thinking it was non-addictive (I refused scripts for Percocet, Vicodin, and tylenol3 lol) & was on that for maybe 6-9months before they changed the scheduling of Tramadol and I couldn't get a doctor's appointment for 3 weeks and was in withdrawal and a client just so happen to have 1000 Dilaudid tablets, so I used that for a month before going to Cancun on vacation and came back and turns out I used all of her 1000 tablets in that month (was shooting 14-24mg IV 5-10x a day) and she happened to have friends on heroin, so I started using heroin about 2014 and blew $78,000 on heroin in about 15 to 18 months & used alcohol to detox.. Which led to alcohol relapse on top of heroin relapse. Which led to 2 DUI in Aug '16 (clean off heroin since April 14th 2016, went to rehab April 20th 2016)... Then was having chest pain Aug 12th 2017 and got ANOTHER DUI...

So, regrets? Starting opiates, which led to alcohol.... Which led to every fucking problem/bad thing in my life.

My friend is on methadone now due to prescribed oxycodone and he warned me and said to do everything possible to avoid using opiates, though sometimes you simply can't avoid it.

[Humble Narcissist]

Yeah having easy access is dangerous. I've been swearing at times about not having any access at times when I've been in severe pain but OTOH it's probably good that they are very restrictive here.

I remembered ESFitness' story. I hope he is doing well.

My friend is on methadone now due to prescribed oxycodone and he warned me and said to do everything possible to avoid using opiates, though sometimes you simply can't avoid it.

They almost work too well.

[Griffith]

I've found Tramadol to be the most effective painkiller in terms of lower side-effects, especially drowsiness.

[Van_Bilderass]

I've found Tramadol to be the most effective painkiller in terms of lower side-effects, especially drowsiness.

bhanks said it had no effect whatsoever on him and as it didn't make him itch it wasn't an opioid contrary to all the literature.

I feel the pain killing effect is just so-so but the mood brightening effects are absolutely wonderful. Which could make it treacherous. Back in the day it was thought it was hardly addictive at all. Nowadays here in Sweden it's harder to get an Rx for than oxycodone which is insane. It's what all the little immigrant gang kids sell and eat.

[AbrahamG]

I take two servings per week of ibuprofen which allows me to complete a push day on Monday and a pull day on Wednesday.  I try to take each dose at least 4 hours but preferably 6-8 hours before training.  Really does the trick. 

[beakdoctor]

I take two servings per week of ibuprofen which allows me to complete a push day on Monday and a pull day on Wednesday.  I try to take each dose at least 4 hours but preferably 6-8 hours before training.  Really does the trick.

I don't think that's a dose to be concerned about by any means. Especially is you don't drink alcohol.

If you're interested in something that will alleviate pain, you could try 2 to 3 grams of a green or white leaf Kratom. Years of use and no liver, kidney or BP issues at all. Filipinos, Cambodians, Laotians have been chewing it for centuries with no ill health effects outside of addiction but as far as addictions go it's relatively minor.

[AbrahamG]

I don't think that's a dose to be concerned about by any means. Especially is you don't drink alcohol.

If you're interested in something that will alleviate pain, you could try 2 to 3 grams of a green or white leaf Kratom. Years of use and no liver, kidney or BP issues at all. Filipinos, Cambodians, Laotians have been chewing it for centuries with no ill health effects outside of addiction but as far as addictions go it's relatively minor.

I've never really paid much attention or read much on kratom.  I'll do some reading later.  Thanks.