Do You Have Any Questions About What Happened in 2001?

[Palumboism]

I'm not usually a conspiracy theorist, but the events of 2001 always seemed questionable to me.  In the same way that the events of the 2008 financial crisis seemed questionable.


A Conspiracy Theory:

[beakdoctor]

I know it was about more than two buildings coming down.

It seemed to signal a shift in the world far beyond any terror organization has with USA.

The world changed that day and not for the better. The trickle down effect has left us with retards in elected positions and every generation since is more weak and mentally ill. It also began the divisiveness that defines our country today. It also began the blatantly left-biased MSM.

[IroNat]

The beginning of the surveilance state.

[Brenda Steunbeer]

This statement was given by rumsfeld one day before the terror attacks:


On September 10, 2001, Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld gave a Speech on DoD Acquisition and Logistics where he famously stated that the Pentagon could not track $2.3 trillion in financial transactions.

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The core facts regarding this statement clarify what happened:
The Core Issue: The missing $2.3 trillion did not represent actual "stolen" or "lost" cash. It referred to unverified ledger transactions and systemic accounting errors caused by the Pentagon's use of dozens of incompatible and obsolete computer systems.

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The "Unaccounted For" Amount: Some estimates suggest roughly $2.3 trillion in Department of Defense transactions lacked the necessary documentation or proper receipts required by standard accounting practices at the time.

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Context of the Speech: Rumsfeld was not attempting to break a new scandal on the eve of the 9/11 attacks; he was using the $2.3 trillion figure to illustrate the inefficiency of the Pentagon bureaucracy to a group of financial managers. He cited the fact as proof that the military's financial infrastructure needed an urgent overhaul.

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Broader Implications: For decades, the Pentagon has notoriously struggled with its financial audits. While this lack of paper trails and "unaccounted for" data does not explicitly mean the funds were stolen, experts highlight that poor bookkeeping makes it dramatically easier to hide fraud and waste within defense

[wes]

NEVER FORGET

[tacobender]

Chronic 2001

[Van_Bilderass]

I feel the Israelis had foreknowledge, at the least.

It also began the divisiveness that defines our country today. It also began the blatantly left-biased MSM.

Also the neoconservative movement was turbocharged. These jews were leftists who became "conservative." The movement has informed US foreign policy and the deep state continues with the policies under Trump as well.

[Beefjake]

I know it was about more than two buildings coming down.

Third also. But it was just a show of solidarity for its two taller brethen who fell before.

[Humble Narcissist]

Third also. But it was just a show of solidarity for it two taller brethen who fell before.

Yes, Building #7 gives it away.

[IroNat]

NEVER FORGET

[Humble Narcissist]

^^^ He was certainly cheering.

[Palumboism]

Third also. But it was just a show of solidarity for its two taller brethen who fell before.

Yes, Building #7 gives it away.

All three buildings were detonated the same way and fell flat.

If you look at how the World Trade Centers were constructed, there's no reason they should have fallen do to a 767 crashing into them. 

To me it's as plane as day the narrative they have created of the fires causing the trusses to sag and fail is false.  These buildings were built with a tube in tube design and it's the tubes that keep them up.  The floors and trusses are just along for the ride.  Neither the outer tube nor the inner tube were structurally damaged by the impact. 

Even more bazaar is they're saying it's the connection point which was a plate with a bolt that failed.  So It's either the plate that failed, or the bolt.  A bolts are made out of heat treated steel, so it wasn't the bolt that sheared.  That leaves the plate.  They're saying a bolt sheared a thick steel plate because of a fire.  It just makes no sense.

I just find it odd that no engineers are stepping forward to day this narrative makes no sense.  These World Trade centers were built like tanks.  A low temperate smoky black fire is not going to take them down.

767 aren't large airplanes they seat seven across with a 2-3-2 seating configuration.  The planes were more than half empty and were flying from Boston to LA, so they really didn't have much fuel.  Typically airlines put only slightly more fuel than is needed for the flight and 3000 miles is not a long flight.

This is so false.  They actually have the fuselage going through the building and hitting the inner core columns.
A 767 fuselage is just a giant aluminum tube.  When that fuselage hit the boxed steel beams it crumpled like a tin can.  Aluminum is a very soft metal with no where near the same strength as steel. It was like an aluminum can hitting a steel I beam. 

Also, all the fuel in an aircraft is in the wings and sit between two aluminum beams called spars.  This means the majority of the fuel didn't make it into the building because the spar hit the boxed columns.  This is why you see the fuel igniting outside the building.  Most of the fuel and heat couldn't make it through the 18 inch spaces between the columns and fell to the ground igniting in a ball of fire.

[Beefjake]

Even if jet fuel burned with higher temperature it would burn out quickly.

Yes. Just google imeges from aeroplanes with bird strikes. A seagull can damage the very tip of the fuselage, but still they went through steel and inches of glass like nothing.

Even the wings 😄

[Van_Bilderass]

I just find it odd that no engineers are stepping forward to day this narrative makes no sense. 

"Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth (AE911Truth) is an American non-profit organization that promotes the conspiracy theory that the World Trade Center buildings were destroyed via controlled demolition. Founded in 2006 by architect Richard Gage, the group disputes the official scientific consensus regarding the events of September 11, 2001.

Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth states that it has gathered nearly 3,500 verified architects and engineers among its total base of approximately 16,000 signatory supporters calling for a new investigation."

I can't speak to the matter not being an engineer myself obviously but remembered this

However, another non-engineer did have an opinion:

"Donald Trump has repeatedly expressed disbelief that the planes alone could have brought down the towers, suggesting the structural integrity of the World Trade Center was so strong that explosives must have been used.

His specific comments and theories regarding the towers' construction include:

Heavy Steel Exterior: Trump has frequently described the Twin Towers as "unbelievably powerful" buildings with a unique structural design. Unlike most skyscrapers that use interior steel support structures, he highlighted that the World Trade Center featured heavy steel on the exterior, which he considered to be the strongest possible construction."

But he's done nothing about it since being president. What does it suggest, if anything?

[Palumboism]

However, another non-engineer did have an opinion:

"Donald Trump has repeatedly expressed disbelief that the planes alone could have brought down the towers, suggesting the structural integrity of the World Trade Center was so strong that explosives must have been used.

His specific comments and theories regarding the towers' construction include:

Heavy Steel Exterior: Trump has frequently described the Twin Towers as "unbelievably powerful" buildings with a unique structural design. Unlike most skyscrapers that use interior steel support structures, he highlighted that the World Trade Center featured heavy steel on the exterior, which he considered to be the strongest possible construction."

But he's done nothing about it since being president. What does it suggest, if anything?

He may not be an engineer, but he's had many working for him and he's built quite a few tall buildings and is very familiar with how they're built.

[Palumboism]

From AE911Truth:

[Palumboism]

"Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth (AE911Truth) is an American non-profit organization that promotes the conspiracy theory that the World Trade Center buildings were destroyed via controlled demolition. Founded in 2006 by architect Richard Gage, the group disputes the official scientific consensus regarding the events of September 11, 2001.

Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth states that it has gathered nearly 3,500 verified architects and engineers among its total base of approximately 16,000 signatory supporters calling for a new investigation."

I can't speak to the matter not being an engineer myself obviously but remembered this

However, another non-engineer did have an opinion:

"Donald Trump has repeatedly expressed disbelief that the planes alone could have brought down the towers, suggesting the structural integrity of the World Trade Center was so strong that explosives must have been used.

His specific comments and theories regarding the towers' construction include:

Heavy Steel Exterior: Trump has frequently described the Twin Towers as "unbelievably powerful" buildings with a unique structural design. Unlike most skyscrapers that use interior steel support structures, he highlighted that the World Trade Center featured heavy steel on the exterior, which he considered to be the strongest possible construction."

But he's done nothing about it since being president. What does it suggest, if anything?

Thanks.  I found a link.

https://www.ae911truth.org/evidence/near-free-fall-acceleration

[Palumboism]

Direct Evidence of Explosions:

https://www.ae911truth.org/evidence/explosive-features

90,000 tons of concrete in each of the Twin Towers were pulverized in midair. Their steel structures were almost entirely dismembered and ejected up to 500 feet in all directions at speeds up to 70 mph

Dozens of eyewitnesses observed molten metal in the debris of both Twin Towers. Molten metal was also observed pouring out of the South Tower continuously during the seven minutes leading up to its collapse.

[Palumboism]

Explosions | World Trade Center Building 7

https://www.ae911truth.org/evidence/explosions

[Never1AShow]

The true controversy of 2001, Should Jay Have Won?

[Palumboism]

All the Signature Features of
Controlled Demolition:

Sudden onset:
The roofline of WTC 7 went from being stationary to being in free fall in approximately one-half
second.

Rapidity:
The roofline of WTC 7 fell to the ground in less than seven seconds.

Free fall:
For 2.25 seconds of its descent, WTC 7 fell at the rate of gravity over a distance of eight stories, meaning that the lower structure of the building provided no resistance whatsoever.

Totality:
The entire structure of WTC 7 collapsed to the ground, leaving no sections of the building standing.

Symmetry:
WTC 7 fell directly downward through what had been the path of greatest resistance, with the debris deposited mostly inside the building’s footprint. Explosions and

window breakage:
Vertical sequences of explosions and window breakage could be seen running up the north face of
WTC 7 as it began to collapse.

Dismemberment:
The steel frame of WTC 7 was almost entirely dismembered.

Pulverization:
Most of WTC 7’s concrete was pulverized to a consistency of sand and gravel.

[hench]

I always found it odd how yes a plane crashed into 2 separate towers but they collapsed identically and symmetrically. You'd expect differences in how they collapsed atleast.

[Humble Narcissist]

The true controversy of 2001, Should Jay Have Won?

The real twin towers.

[Irongrip400]

The only one that leaves me wondering how and why it fell is 7. I suppose it could have been compromised by the two 100 story buildings next to it falling though. 

[Palumboism]

The only one that leaves me wondering how and why it fell is 7. I suppose it could have been compromised by the two 100 story buildings next to it falling though.

You're seriously saying you have no questions about how the twin towers fell?

That's the thing I find so disturbing.  There are hundreds of millions of Americans that have completely accepted the story about how the twin towers fell.