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Re: Do You Have Any Questions About What Happened in 2001?
« Reply #50 on: July 12, 2026, 10:23:48 AM »
Highly experienced high rise building designer interview.  This guy is an expert he know his stuff inside and out.

@2:40 he describes the exterior construction the goes on to say "those planes were shredded the moment they started into the building".  Which is exactly what I was thinking when I saw the building design.


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Re: Do You Have Any Questions About What Happened in 2001?
« Reply #51 on: July 13, 2026, 07:23:35 AM »
^^^ "Conspiracy theorists" prove to be right more often than not.

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Re: Do You Have Any Questions About What Happened in 2001?
« Reply #52 on: July 13, 2026, 07:36:31 AM »
Google bird strikes on 747. Those are fucking seagulls smashing the front of fuselage and windscreens.
There is no way that those aluminium alloy wing would just glide right thru solid steed beams and structural glass.

Image that if the plane would be stationary and you swatted it with this huge skyscraper. What would happen. The plade would explode to pieces and debris would fly everywhere.
Not plane imbedding itself to the building.

Building 7, Flight93 are giveaways. Pentagon had a fuselage hole, not even holes for 8metric ton steel engines at wings.

Flight 93 left hardly any debris. Because it sunk into earth. Look at any crash site pics. It just won’t happen.

Obviously the planes got destroyed, I’m not saying the planes cut the towers in half.

Regardless - 300,000lbs of ANYTHING smashing into a structure at 500mph is going to compromise structural integrity to a massive degree.  A steel tower isn’t designed to withstand those kinds of lateral forces.  Compromised structural elements weakened by a fire (750F fire will ruin the heat treatment and soften the steel) and its pretty easy to imagine how the plane collisions could cause the collapse of those towers

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Re: Do You Have Any Questions About What Happened in 2001?
« Reply #53 on: July 13, 2026, 01:36:40 PM »
Obviously the planes got destroyed, I’m not saying the planes cut the towers in half.

Regardless - 300,000lbs of ANYTHING smashing into a structure at 500mph is going to compromise structural integrity to a massive degree.  A steel tower isn’t designed to withstand those kinds of lateral forces.  Compromised structural elements weakened by a fire (750F fire will ruin the heat treatment and soften the steel) and its pretty easy to imagine how the plane collisions could cause the collapse of those towers



[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-3FQtZnk2A[/youtube

Calmly & factually counter what he says in this video - he makes a lot of very valid points
About the design & structure of these buildings.
He wants answers as the 'official' narrative doesn't add up.

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Re: Do You Have Any Questions About What Happened in 2001?
« Reply #54 on: July 13, 2026, 02:45:31 PM »
Obviously the planes got destroyed, I’m not saying the planes cut the towers in half.

Regardless - 300,000lbs of ANYTHING smashing into a structure at 500mph is going to compromise structural integrity to a massive degree.  A steel tower isn’t designed to withstand those kinds of lateral forces. 


These buildings were specifically designed to withstand the impact of a Boeing 707 which has a maximum takeoff weight of 330,000 pounds, which is actually higher that the 767-200.  These buildings were designed to take the impact of a plane the size of the 767.


Compromised structural elements weakened by a fire (750F fire will ruin the heat treatment and soften the steel) and its pretty easy to imagine how the plane collisions could cause the collapse of those towers

None of the structural elements of this building were heat treated.  Heat treating is expensive and can result in a brittle material.  The chemical properties of the steel give it it's strength along with the rolling and forming processes when manufacturing.  You can put a cast iron pan in a hot oven and it doesn't weaken it.

All of the exterior columns on these buildings on the floor that was hit used .375" thick steel and the fuselage of the 767 uses .063" Aluminum. 

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Re: Do You Have Any Questions About What Happened in 2001?
« Reply #55 on: July 13, 2026, 05:15:26 PM »

These buildings were specifically designed to withstand the impact of a Boeing 707 which has a maximum takeoff weight of 330,000 pounds, which is actually higher that the 767-200.  These buildings were designed to take the impact of a plane the size of the 767.


None of the structural elements of this building were heat treated.  Heat treating is expensive and can result in a brittle material.  The chemical properties of the steel give it it's strength along with the rolling and forming processes when manufacturing.  You can put a cast iron pan in a hot oven and it doesn't weaken it.

All of the exterior columns on these buildings on the floor that was hit used .375" thick steel and the fuselage of the 767 uses .063" Aluminum.

Your last sentence doesn’t necessarily hold up. It’s not like it was a spit ball, it was a 300,000 pound object hitting a building.

I once shot a potato through my grandmothers garage sheathing that was made out of T-111. Is wood harder than a potato or was it that it was traveling a few hundred miles an hour?

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Re: Do You Have Any Questions About What Happened in 2001?
« Reply #56 on: July 13, 2026, 06:20:43 PM »
Your last sentence doesn’t necessarily hold up. It’s not like it was a spit ball, it was a 300,000 pound object hitting a building.

I once shot a potato through my grandmothers garage sheathing that was made out of T-111. Is wood harder than a potato or was it that it was traveling a few hundred miles an hour?

Aircraft aren't designed to be a battering ram.  It may be 300,000 pounds, but it has a structural skin that's only 0.063" thick.  It also has a height of 17'9" meaning it's not just hitting one floor, it's hitting two floors.

It's hitting five vertical columns, three horizontal beams, and two steel reinforce concrete slabs and it's only 0.063" thick.  It was just shredded.

I think explosives were used to take the building down and were also used on the impact zone.  It's the number of columns they show cut as well as how they were cut.  The ends of the wings would not be able to cut through the columns and it's showing they were cut right through.  They used massive amounts of explosives and massive amounts of Thermite on all three buildings. 

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Re: Do You Have Any Questions About What Happened in 2001?
« Reply #57 on: July 13, 2026, 06:25:50 PM »
Aircraft aren't designed to be a battering ram.  It may be 300,000 pounds, but it has a structural skin that's only 0.063" thick.  It also has a height of 17'9" meaning it's not just hitting one floor, it's hitting two floors.

It's hitting five vertical columns, three horizontal beams, and two steel reinforce concrete slabs and it's only 0.063" thick.  It was just shredded.
Are you saying 300,000#'s of 1/16" thick aluminum, steel and fuel traveling at close to 500mph didn't cause any damage?
Liar!!!!Filt!!!!

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Re: Do You Have Any Questions About What Happened in 2001?
« Reply #58 on: July 13, 2026, 06:41:24 PM »
Are you saying 300,000#'s of 1/16" thick aluminum, steel and fuel traveling at close to 500mph didn't cause any damage?

No, I'm saying the front of the fuselage crumpled on impact like the crumple zone in a car, but even more so.  When it hit the wing box and engines, and wing spars it ran into some heavy material.  Engine are cast and weigh about 20,000 pound.

The absolute heart of the matter is the first thing that went down when the first tower collapsed was the antenna at the top.  That's critical because that was bolted to all the strong center columns in the middle of the buildings. It free fell meaning all those massive columns had no resistance.  That can only happen if they were detonated and cut using Thermite.  It was the design engineer of the building that was questioning how that was possible.

This was an expert job and I believe they used explosive and Thermite on the impact zone as well.

The smoking gun is how fast it fell with no resistance from the massive steel columns below.


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Re: Do You Have Any Questions About What Happened in 2001?
« Reply #59 on: July 13, 2026, 06:47:42 PM »
No, I'm saying the front of the fuselage crumpled on impact like the crumple zone in a car, but even more so.
So there is no thicker support/bracing behind the fuselage?
For the record I question the official narrative all day but to minimize the damage cause by 300,000+lbs moving at 500mph and the subsequent fire that burned for an hour to an hour and a half would be dismissive.
Question for you...how many people would it take to run all that thermite in 3(?) buildings? Who would detonate that? Where are the installers or even the manufacturers that sell thermite to talk about the increase in sales?
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Re: Do You Have Any Questions About What Happened in 2001?
« Reply #60 on: July 13, 2026, 10:22:57 PM »
So there is no thicker support/bracing behind the fuselage?
For the record I question the official narrative all day but to minimize the damage cause by 300,000+lbs moving at 500mph and the subsequent fire that burned for an hour to an hour and a half would be dismissive.
Question for you...how many people would it take to run all that thermite in 3(?) buildings? Who would detonate that? Where are the installers or even the manufacturers that sell thermite to talk about the increase in sales?

It's a monocoque design where the external skin supports the load.  There are also frames and stringers, but their primary job keep the shape of the skin.  Any deformation in the shape of the skin compromises the fuselage.  If you took a sledge hammer and dented a section of the skin, the plane would not be able to fly. 

On impact the skin is taking the majority of the load.  The deformation would be immediate just taking a sledge hammer to an empty beer can.

This link shows what the frames and stringers look like on a commercial airplane.
https://www.cnet.com/pictures/the-great-boeing-metal-airplane-shop-pictures/

Every column on every floor of every building needed to be cut.  This was a huge operation.  All three buildings were "instrumented" for insurance purposes.  Cases were rolled into the building and never seen again.

 



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Re: Do You Have Any Questions About What Happened in 2001?
« Reply #61 on: Today at 12:19:18 AM »
As I mentioned before both towers fell identically, I don't know what went on but what's the chances of 2 structures  collapsing  the same. I feel like it should have been messy,  like why not one side give out more and one side stay up while the other plummets, just looked too perfect and symmetrical

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Re: Do You Have Any Questions About What Happened in 2001?
« Reply #62 on: Today at 06:35:28 AM »

Every column on every floor of every building needed to be cut.  This was a huge operation.  All three buildings were "instrumented" for insurance purposes.  Cases were rolled into the building and never seen again.
Who did all of that cutting? Who planted the explosives? Who set the explosives off? The preparation would have taken what months? A year? It would have involved dozens of people? Thousands of pounds of thermite per building? All of that, all of the people involved to orchestrate and implement that and who has stepped forward to claim they were involved in rigging any of that up?
Liar!!!!Filt!!!!

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« Reply #63 on: Today at 07:07:19 AM »
As I mentioned before both towers fell identically, I don't know what went on but what's the chances of 2 structures  collapsing  the same. I feel like it should have been messy,  like why not one side give out more and one side stay up while the other plummets, just looked too perfect and symmetrical
It's so obvious now but almost everyone believed the story in real time.

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Re: Do You Have Any Questions About What Happened in 2001?
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As I mentioned before both towers fell identically, I don't know what went on but what's the chances of 2 structures  collapsing  the same. I feel like it should have been messy,  like why not one side give out more and one side stay up while the other plummets, just looked too perfect and symmetrical

two identical towers falling identically?

wouldnt that be more likely?

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Re: Do You Have Any Questions About What Happened in 2001?
« Reply #66 on: Today at 01:09:42 PM »
https://nypost.com/2017/09/26/pilot-lands-safely-after-bird-strike-destroys-planes-nose/
That picture has to be photoshopped, according to Palumboism a dent on a section of skin would prevent the plane from flying.


Any deformation in the shape of the skin compromises the fuselage.  If you took a sledge hammer and dented a section of the skin, the plane would not be able to fly. 


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Re: Do You Have Any Questions About What Happened in 2001?
« Reply #67 on: Today at 01:28:44 PM »
That picture has to be photoshopped, according to Palumboism a dent on a section of skin would prevent the plane from flying.

No airline would takeoff with passengers with an aircraft that looked like that.  That's what I meant by prevent a plane from flying.

There have been F15 that have had half a wing shot off and have landed. 

An Aloha airlines flight landed with it's roof blown off. 

https://admiralcloudberg.medium.com/falling-to-pieces-the-near-crash-of-aloha-airlines-flight-243-18f28c03f27b


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Re: Do You Have Any Questions About What Happened in 2001?
« Reply #68 on: Today at 01:47:50 PM »
No airline would takeoff with passengers with an aircraft that looked like that.  That's what I meant by prevent a plane from flying.

There have been F15 that have had half a wing shot off and have landed. 

An Aloha airlines flight landed with it's roof blown off. 

https://admiralcloudberg.medium.com/falling-to-pieces-the-near-crash-of-aloha-airlines-flight-243-18f28c03f27b


Epic skipping over my questions. >:(

Who did all of that cutting? Who planted the explosives? Who set the explosives off? The preparation would have taken what months? A year? It would have involved dozens of people? Thousands of pounds of thermite per building? All of that, all of the people involved to orchestrate and implement that and who has stepped forward to claim they were involved in rigging any of that up?
Liar!!!!Filt!!!!