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Man Lives with Pig Kidney
« on: September 04, 2026, 03:56:43 PM »
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/pig-kidney-works-record-271-days-body-surviving-american-rcna596101

A New Hampshire man, at death’s door 1 ˝ years ago, said Friday he could now have “decades” left after surviving a record 271 days with a transplanted pig kidney — in a procedure that could offer new hope to countless other patients.

When Tim Andrews and doctors first started discussing a pig transplant in late 2024, the patient with end-stage kidney failure said he was convinced death was near.

But Andrews, 68, wanted to try this procedure, if just for the findings and data it could yield for researchers.

“I didn’t think I was going to live through it, to be honest. But I wanted to do it for humanity,” he told NBC News on Friday.

“I realized, OK, I’m a dead man. I’m a dead man walking. So I said to myself, ‘What have I done? What have I done with my life? This is an opportunity for me to do something that most people don’t get an opportunity to do, and that’s to help humanity.’”
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Re: Man Lives with Pig Kidney
« Reply #1 on: September 04, 2026, 04:02:39 PM »
Was it one of Lou’s pigs? Generous of Farmer Lou if true….

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Re: Man Lives with Pig Kidney
« Reply #2 on: September 04, 2026, 05:00:26 PM »
The guy can't stop eating.

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Re: Man Lives with Pig Kidney
« Reply #3 on: September 04, 2026, 05:09:30 PM »
I thought I remember reading about this a few years ago and the dude died. I guess that was an early beta test model?

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Re: Man Lives with Pig Kidney
« Reply #4 on: September 04, 2026, 05:55:16 PM »
Was it one of Lou’s pigs? Generous of Farmer Lou if true….

I thought I remember reading about this a few years ago and the dude died. I guess that was an early beta test model?

 Not that pig kidney. It’s not good pig kidney (in that case). It’s no good.

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Re: Man Lives with Pig Kidney
« Reply #5 on: September 05, 2026, 04:35:36 AM »
Was it one of Lou’s pigs? Generous of Farmer Lou if true….


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Re: Man Lives with Pig Kidney
« Reply #6 on: September 05, 2026, 10:44:23 AM »
“TL;DR: CRISPR gene-editing finally made pig kidneys way less alien to the human immune system. That’s the big leap.
Back in the day (and honestly until pretty recently), transplanting a regular pig kidney into a person was a non-starter. The human immune system would freak out almost immediately — hyperacute rejection in minutes to hours. Pig cells are covered in certain sugar molecules (mainly alpha-gal, plus a couple others like Neu5Gc and Sda) that our antibodies treat like a massive red flag. Blood would clot in the organ, complement would go nuts, inflammation would explode, and the kidney would die. There were also worries about pig viruses (PERVs) that sit in the pig genome and could theoretically jump to humans, plus the organs sometimes kept growing because of pig growth hormone signaling.
What changed is we can now edit the pig genome with CRISPR (and related tools) at scale. Companies like eGenesis are putting ~69 edits into Yucatan miniature pigs. The key ones:
   •   Knock out the three main sugar/antigen genes so those instant-rejection triggers are gone.
   •   Inactivate basically all the PERV sequences so the virus risk drops hard.
   •   Insert a bunch of human genes that act like camouflage and peacekeepers — stuff that regulates complement, calms inflammation, helps with blood clotting compatibility, and tells human immune cells “don’t eat me.”
Other groups (like Revivicor/United Therapeutics) do fewer edits but hit the same big problems: knock out the antigens, sometimes the growth hormone receptor so the kidney doesn’t keep enlarging, and add several human protective genes.
Add better modern immunosuppressive drugs on top of that, raise the pigs in super-clean facilities, and you get organs that can actually function in a living person for months instead of hours or days. We’ve already seen cases where a gene-edited pig kidney kept someone off dialysis for 9 months (record territory), worked well enough to act as a bridge until a human kidney became available, and didn’t leave the patient worse off for the eventual human transplant.
It’s still experimental, not perfect, and not routine yet — rejection can still happen later, patients need heavy immuno suppression, and long-term durability is being figured out. But the difference between “dies in minutes” and “keeps someone dialysis-free for the better part of a year” is almost entirely the genetic humanization of the donor pig. That’s why it’s working better now than in the past.”
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Re: Man Lives with Pig Kidney
« Reply #7 on: September 05, 2026, 11:27:15 AM »
“TL;DR: CRISPR gene-editing finally made pig kidneys way less alien to the human immune system. That’s the big leap.
Back in the day (and honestly until pretty recently), transplanting a regular pig kidney into a person was a non-starter. The human immune system would freak out almost immediately — hyperacute rejection in minutes to hours. Pig cells are covered in certain sugar molecules (mainly alpha-gal, plus a couple others like Neu5Gc and Sda) that our antibodies treat like a massive red flag. Blood would clot in the organ, complement would go nuts, inflammation would explode, and the kidney would die. There were also worries about pig viruses (PERVs) that sit in the pig genome and could theoretically jump to humans, plus the organs sometimes kept growing because of pig growth hormone signaling.
What changed is we can now edit the pig genome with CRISPR (and related tools) at scale. Companies like eGenesis are putting ~69 edits into Yucatan miniature pigs. The key ones:
   •   Knock out the three main sugar/antigen genes so those instant-rejection triggers are gone.
   •   Inactivate basically all the PERV sequences so the virus risk drops hard.
   •   Insert a bunch of human genes that act like camouflage and peacekeepers — stuff that regulates complement, calms inflammation, helps with blood clotting compatibility, and tells human immune cells “don’t eat me.”
Other groups (like Revivicor/United Therapeutics) do fewer edits but hit the same big problems: knock out the antigens, sometimes the growth hormone receptor so the kidney doesn’t keep enlarging, and add several human protective genes.
Add better modern immunosuppressive drugs on top of that, raise the pigs in super-clean facilities, and you get organs that can actually function in a living person for months instead of hours or days. We’ve already seen cases where a gene-edited pig kidney kept someone off dialysis for 9 months (record territory), worked well enough to act as a bridge until a human kidney became available, and didn’t leave the patient worse off for the eventual human transplant.
It’s still experimental, not perfect, and not routine yet — rejection can still happen later, patients need heavy immuno suppression, and long-term durability is being figured out. But the difference between “dies in minutes” and “keeps someone dialysis-free for the better part of a year” is almost entirely the genetic humanization of the donor pig. That’s why it’s working better now than in the past.”
Makes you wonder what they are playing with behind closed doors.
Liar!!!!Filt!!!!

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Re: Man Lives with Pig Kidney
« Reply #8 on: September 05, 2026, 04:00:23 PM »
“In the big record case (Tim Andrews, ~271 days / ~9 months), it wasn’t some automatic “expires at 9 months” thing. The kidney just started failing around then and had to come out.
Here’s the rough timeline of what happened:
   •   Early on there was a T-cell rejection episode (day 8-ish in some of these cases). They cranked up the immunosuppression and it settled down. Kidney worked great for months — off dialysis, feeling human again.
   •   Around the 6-month mark he got an infection. Doctors had to dial back the heavy immunosuppressant drugs so his body could fight the infection.
   •   After that, damage started showing up in the tiny blood vessels inside the pig kidney (microvascular injury / thrombotic microangiopathy — basically little clots and inflammation in the small vessels). The organ got inflamed, function slowly dropped, and it became “clogged up.”
   •   By ~9 months the numbers were bad enough they had to remove it. No massive antibody storm that they could clearly pin it on in the write-ups, but the vessels were toast.
So the kidney didn’t just randomly quit at 9 months. It was a combination of:
   •   Having to lower the anti-rejection meds for infection
   •   Slow vascular damage that the current gene edits + drugs still don’t fully prevent long-term
   •   The usual wear-and-tear of keeping a cross-species organ alive under heavy drugs
After removal he went back on dialysis for a bit, then got a regular human kidney (which has been working fine). Importantly, the pig kidney didn’t mess up his chances for the human one — no new antibodies that made matching harder.
This is still super early science. Other patients are already past that mark (one was over 285 days and counting as of recent updates). The late failures are teaching the teams what to tweak next — better infection management so they don’t have to drop the drugs, more/better gene edits aimed at the blood vessels and clotting, tighter monitoring, etc.
It’s progress, not a hard ceiling.”
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Was it one of Lou’s pigs? Generous of Farmer Lou if true….
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