Why Healthy People Suddenly Decline After 60

[_bruce_]

To me, age is just a number. I still train as I did in my 30's and see myself as the 18yr old stud I've always been.

That's the spirit - a getbigger is a mixture of silverback and lion with horse genitals.

[Humble Narcissist]

That's the spirit - a getbigger is a mixture of silverback and lion with horse genitals.

With Einstenian brain.

[ThisisOverload]

Genes is the most important factor of all, it always is

I agree with sleep, I personally feel that might be the biggest factor you could somewhat affect youtself.

Women trouble ages you FAST.

Genes are everything. Both of my parents are in incredible health in their late 70's.

I just had some blood work done and everything was damn near perfect. Considering the crazy things I've done I would expect something bad. Been on AAS for 20 years with zero issues, but I have been TRT only for the last 4-5 years.

But in my late 40's sleep is huge! I feel like a completely different person if I don't get 8 hours of real sleep. The difference is unreal. My physical and mental performance is cut in half if I don't sleep well.

Also, mentally I cope with stress a lot better these days. It's almost impossible to get me worked up and my ability to let things go is legit.

My wife is dealing with a lot of mental stress from her family, I swear she has aged 5 years in the last 18 months.

I think a person's ability to handle stress is genetic to a point, but I also think you can learn to deal with it better.

[Max Stryker]

Genes are everything. Both of my parents are in incredible health in their late 70's.

I just had some blood work done and everything was damn near perfect. Considering the crazy things I've done I would expect something bad. Been on AAS for 20 years with zero issues, but I have been TRT only for the last 4-5 years.

But in my late 40's sleep is huge! I feel like a completely different person if I don't get 8 hours of real sleep. The difference is unreal. My physical and mental performance is cut in half if I don't sleep well.

Also, mentally I cope with stress a lot better these days. It's almost impossible to get me worked up and my ability to let things go is legit.

My wife is dealing with a lot of mental stress from her family, I swear she has aged 5 years in the last 18 months.

I think a person's ability to handle stress is genetic to a point, but I also think you can learn to deal with it better.

100%. Well said.

[Max Stryker]

I think the decline often *looks* sudden because the loss of reserve was gradual.

For years, your body compensates well enough to make  you "feel normal". Then an infection, injury, surgery, spending too much time on getbig.com or period of inactivity pushes you past a threshold. Recovery takes longer, you lose strength, and that can become a shitty cycle.

There’s no magic age where this happens. Genetics, training, sleep, shitty wife and medical history all affect how much reserve you have. Key is the reserve (And no Ron Avdian, can't replenish reserves on Orange Chicken alone)

Staying "fit-ish" helps, but it doesn’t make anyone immune. If someone declines dramatically over weeks or months, I wouldn’t simply write it off as “getting old.”

I’d want to know what changed. Then treat it, rebound and get back to baseline.

[Humble Narcissist]

Genes are everything. Both of my parents are in incredible health in their late 70's.

I just had some blood work done and everything was damn near perfect. Considering the crazy things I've done I would expect something bad. Been on AAS for 20 years with zero issues, but I have been TRT only for the last 4-5 years.

But in my late 40's sleep is huge! I feel like a completely different person if I don't get 8 hours of real sleep. The difference is unreal. My physical and mental performance is cut in half if I don't sleep well.

Also, mentally I cope with stress a lot better these days. It's almost impossible to get me worked up and my ability to let things go is legit.

My wife is dealing with a lot of mental stress from her family, I swear she has aged 5 years in the last 18 months.

I think a person's ability to handle stress is genetic to a point, but I also think you can learn to deal with it better.

Yes, stress ages a person fast.

[pamith]

Think young and see how that goes for you.

Bro...

[pamith]

To me, age is just a number. I still train as I did in my 30's and see myself as the 18yr old stud I've always been.

My nikka

[MajorDomo]

Minimize cortisol and you will maximize life. Its no accident that most long lived people are also the calmest

[IroNat]

I think the decline often *looks* sudden because the loss of reserve was gradual.

For years, your body compensates well enough to make  you "feel normal". Then an infection, injury, surgery, spending too much time on getbig.com or period of inactivity pushes you past a threshold. Recovery takes longer, you lose strength, and that can become a shitty cycle.

There’s no magic age where this happens. Genetics, training, sleep, shitty wife and medical history all affect how much reserve you have. Key is the reserve (And no Ron Avdian, can't replenish reserves on Orange Chicken alone)

Staying "fit-ish" helps, but it doesn’t make anyone immune. If someone declines dramatically over weeks or months, I wouldn’t simply write it off as “getting old.”

I’d want to know what changed. Then treat it, rebound and get back to baseline.

Agreed.

[Humble Narcissist]

Bro...

Brutal but true.

[pamith]

Brutal but true.

I know the secret to not aging

[loco]

Genes are everything.

Genes play a huge role, but they aren't everything.

Just one example:  Hypertension runs very aggressively in my family.  Except for me, all the men and some of the women in my family are on hypertension medications, or were for those who passed.  After starting a meat-heavy keto diet years ago, I induced clinical remission of hypertension.  My blood pressure is now consistently normal without medications.

And here is another example:

"The Indianapolis-Ibadan Dementia Project (IIDP) was a groundbreaking, 20-year longitudinal comparative epidemiological study established in 1991. It was designed to measure the prevalence, incidence rates, and risk factors for Alzheimer's disease and other age-associated dementias by comparing two culturally, environmentally, and geographically distinct populations of similar genetic ancestry.

The stark difference in Alzheimer’s rates between two ethnically related groups provided powerful evidence that environmental factors, lifestyle, and cardiovascular health play a massive role in dementia risk, overriding purely genetic predispositions."

https://iidpportal.medicine.iu.edu/about/study-history.html

[IroNat]

Say you are 65-70 in good shape but you get a serious injury and now you have limited mobility.
Your muscle mass and probably bone density will decrease drastically.
Not good.

[Van_Bilderass]

I think a person's ability to handle stress is genetic to a point, but I also think you can learn to deal with it better.

Lots of people mellow out with age. Even some career criminals or addicts just suddenly stop at a certain age. I'm on HRT (with a + sometimes lol) but a couple of friends who have just stopped after a few decades on talk about how it's a stress relief in a way, not as amped up, not 'needing' pussy, sleep is better if higher dosages were used and so on

Some people are just very low stress genetically as you say. I've had to learn some mindfulness, maybe it's worked a little tiny bit 

[MajorDomo]

Say you are 65-70 in good shape but you get a serious injury and now you have limited mobility.
Your muscle mass and probably bone density will decrease drastically.
Not good.

Isometrics

The Birth of Isometric Training
Severely injured and captured by Austro-Hungarian forces, Zass recovered and attempted to escape multiple times. After repeated failures, he was sentenced to solitary confinement with his arms and feet shackled. It was in these brutal conditions that he began experimenting with isometric training – contracting the muscles without changing their length or moving the joints – developing what would later be recognised as the foundation of his exercise methods.

Zass found that by pushing and pulling against the shackles and bars in his cell, he was able to regain the strength he once had. Despite the cuffs wounding his skin, he would persevere and complete sets of 15-20 seconds of isometric effort. Before being reallocated to dig trenches in France, which he knew would be a death sentence, he planned his final escape.

Zass’ escape from captivity wouldn't be out of place in a Spielberg film. He used his regained strength to break the chains binding his arms and legs. He had also spent weeks secretly loosening one of the iron bars in his cell. Once it was free, he used it as a lever to pry apart two other bars just enough to squeeze through. After escaping the cell, he swam across a moat surrounding the prison, then used a makeshift rope and hook to scale the outer wall in the middle of the night.


https://www.menshealth.com/uk/building-muscle/a65611746/alexander-zass-isometric-training-strongman-history/

[joswift]

Isometrics

The Birth of Isometric Training
Severely injured and captured by Austro-Hungarian forces, Zass recovered and attempted to escape multiple times. After repeated failures, he was sentenced to solitary confinement with his arms and feet shackled. It was in these brutal conditions that he began experimenting with isometric training – contracting the muscles without changing their length or moving the joints – developing what would later be recognised as the foundation of his exercise methods.

Zass found that by pushing and pulling against the shackles and bars in his cell, he was able to regain the strength he once had. Despite the cuffs wounding his skin, he would persevere and complete sets of 15-20 seconds of isometric effort. Before being reallocated to dig trenches in France, which he knew would be a death sentence, he planned his final escape.

Zass’ escape from captivity wouldn't be out of place in a Spielberg film. He used his regained strength to break the chains binding his arms and legs. He had also spent weeks secretly loosening one of the iron bars in his cell. Once it was free, he used it as a lever to pry apart two other bars just enough to squeeze through. After escaping the cell, he swam across a moat surrounding the prison, then used a makeshift rope and hook to scale the outer wall in the middle of the night.


https://www.menshealth.com/uk/building-muscle/a65611746/alexander-zass-isometric-training-strongman-history/

my dad told me to do that "dynamic tension" he called it


He just didnt want to buy me any weights