Author Topic: Proving the Bible is inaccurate is no BIG deal (Read 8289 times)

OzmO · « **on:** May 08, 2006, 03:01:53 PM »

Really, in the literal sense proving the Bible is wrong is no BIG chore. Nothing to be proud of.

How about prove that GOD doesn't exsist or something

War-Horse · « **Reply #1 on:** May 08, 2006, 04:59:56 PM »

The meat of the bible, remains accurate enough to find GOD, to an honest hearted one. Some translaters have made minor mistakes, but GOD has protected his book of salvation from total mutiny. There is overwhelming evidence that the bible is true in that it locates ancient cities and describes world events to us in prophecies of Daniel and Revelation.

OzmO · « **Reply #2 on:** May 08, 2006, 06:45:43 PM »

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There is overwhelming evidence that the bible is true in that it locates ancient cities and describes world events to us in prophecies of Daniel and Revelation.

We have to remember, however that locating a city or location does not validate someone's story about it.

If the Germans had won WW2 what story do you think they would have told about the Warsaw Ghetto?

Would finding the Warsaw Ghetto 2000 years later make their story true?

War-Horse · « **Reply #3 on:** May 08, 2006, 08:13:56 PM »

Well you know what i mean. The "ICE AGE" is simply the Flood in Noahs day. And the ruins of Sodom and Gommorah have researchers perplexed as to why its encrusted with sulpher and brimstone.........You mean "Fire and Brimstone" fell from the sky??? Why yes, it did

No volcanoes for hundreds of miles and its isolated in the city area......WOW!

OzmO · « **Reply #4 on:** May 09, 2006, 09:53:08 AM »

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The "ICE AGE" is simply the Flood in Noahs day. And the ruins of Sodom and Gommorah have researchers perplexed as to why its encrusted with sulpher and brimstone.........You mean "Fire and Brimstone" fell from the sky??? Why yes, it did

That's what i'm talking about. Just becuase you find sulpher and brimstone in Sodom doesn't mean the story the Bible tells is the way it happen. The sulpher and brimestone is evidence something did happen. But it doesn't mean there were 2 angels from god who visited Lot and the whole town was interested in "knowing" them and Lot offered the horny mob his 2 virgin daughters in their place.

As for the flood.... Noah's boat floated on ice?

Something did happen however. There are numerous deluge stories in almost every ancent civilization.

Johnny Apollo · « **Reply #5 on:** May 09, 2006, 02:21:04 PM »

Quote from: OzmO on May 09, 2006, 09:53:08 AM

Something did happen however. There are numerous deluge stories in almost every ancent civilization.

Only proves deluges are common all over.

OzmO · « **Reply #6 on:** May 09, 2006, 02:56:07 PM »

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Only proves deluges are common all over

Yep, and if i remember right most of them were said to be worldwide.

And many of the storeis had similarities to the Noah story.

Johnny Apollo · « **Reply #7 on:** May 09, 2006, 03:02:04 PM »

Quote from: OzmO on May 09, 2006, 02:56:07 PM

Yep, and if i remember right most of them were said to be worldwide.

And many of the storeis had similarities to the Noah story.

People will dramatize events into mythologies.

There was no Global flood...Ever.

OzmO · « **Reply #8 on:** May 09, 2006, 03:52:43 PM »

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Yep, and if i remember right most of them were said to be worldwide.

In their minds from what they know they probably thought it was world wide. However i am inclined to think that perhaps something that effected a very large amount of people, perhaps displacing some of them happened. I agree, no evidence exsists to support a worlwide deluge.

FREAKgeek · « **Reply #9 on:** May 11, 2006, 08:58:41 AM »

Quote from: OzmO on May 08, 2006, 03:01:53 PM

Really, in the literal sense proving the Bible is wrong is no BIG chore. Nothing to be proud of.

How about prove that GOD doesn't exsist or something

Well, let me ask you this. If the Bible is indeed the word of God, why is it then such a cryptic, ambiguous compilation that Christians themselves can't agree on? Why would the most supreme authority (being God here) reduce his message to such drivel?

OzmO · « **Reply #10 on:** May 11, 2006, 11:26:46 AM »

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Well, let me ask you this. If the Bible is indeed the word of God, why is it then such a cryptic, ambiguous compilation that Christians themselves can't agree on? Why would the most supreme authority (being God here) reduce his message to such drivel?

People spoke and wrote differently then. If you look at a KJV you'll notice they inserted words (in italics i think) beucase the wrtten word was different then it is now. Not that that point is a reason to say it is the word of God.

War-Horse · « **Reply #11 on:** May 13, 2006, 09:45:19 PM »

Quote from: FREAKgeek on May 11, 2006, 08:58:41 AM

Well, let me ask you this. If the Bible is indeed the word of God, why is it then such a cryptic, ambiguous compilation that Christians themselves can't agree on? Why would the most supreme authority (being God here) reduce his message to such drivel?

God has an adversary named Satan. He has done alot ,to let men think they are god-like in their reasonings. Paganism has crept into the church as jesus said "wolves would enter in sheeps clothing"

But the honest hearted one can find God thru prayer and study..........But be careful, Jeramiah 10:23.

Johnny Apollo · « **Reply #12 on:** May 13, 2006, 10:01:22 PM »

Quote from: War-Horse on May 13, 2006, 09:45:19 PM

God has an adversary named Satan. He has done alot ,to let men think they are god-like in their reasonings. Paganism has crept into the church as jesus said "wolves would enter in sheeps clothing"

But the honest hearted one can find God thru prayer and study..........But be careful, Jeramiah 10:23.

1.If God is "omnipotent" then Satan is no adversary. Omnipotent means all powerful. Ability to do ANYTHING. If this God can do anything then Satan isn't an adversary but a pawn. God could destroy satan at any moment if he was "omnipotent" as the bible claims.

2.Paganism has existed in the church since there was a church. Does "Holy Trinity" ring a bell?

War-Horse · « **Reply #13 on:** May 13, 2006, 10:28:14 PM »

Quote from: Johnny Apollo on May 13, 2006, 10:01:22 PM

1.If God is "omnipotent" then Satan is no adversary. Omnipotent means all powerful. Ability to do ANYTHING. If this God can do anything then Satan isn't an adversary but a pawn. God could destroy satan at any moment if he was "omnipotent" as the bible claims.

2.Paganism has existed in the church since there was a church. Does "Holy Trinity" ring a bell?

1. God is all powerfull and could destroy Satan in a heartbeat. But that would not answer the question of " Will mankind serve him out of Love and respect" or will they do their own thing and find delight in their own works? This is the challenge. The heavenly creatures were around when Satan tested Gods authority and it wouldnt have looked good to zap everyone instantly. The test must play out for one time and never be repeated again.

2. Correct the trinity is a pagan belief, and the churches that teach it are not true to Gods word. It was hundreds of years after christ when this was started....along with celebrating his birthday on the same day as pagan sun worship and tree worship. Its a shame, really.

Johnny Apollo · « **Reply #14 on:** May 13, 2006, 10:35:59 PM »

Paganism is present in the old testament as well.

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Genesis 1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

Plural.

War-Horse · « **Reply #15 on:** May 13, 2006, 10:40:23 PM »

Quote from: Johnny Apollo on May 13, 2006, 10:35:59 PM

Paganism is present in the old testament as well.

Plural.

Jehovah had Jesus create in their image. You are not a robot, you have free will, you love,laugh and cry. Their was two creating, and other heavenly creatures watching the show. ...........So?

Johnny Apollo · « **Reply #16 on:** May 13, 2006, 10:48:16 PM »

Quote from: War-Horse on May 13, 2006, 10:40:23 PM

Jehovah had Jesus create in their image. You are not a robot, you have free will, you love,laugh and cry. Their was two creating, and other heavenly creatures watching the show. ...........So?

No...The passage states..

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Genesis 1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

This rules out Jesus since Jesus didn't make mankind.

This also rules out the angels because it says "In our image" and humans arne't made in the image of the angels. No passage states God made the angels in his image either.

War-Horse · « **Reply #17 on:** May 13, 2006, 10:53:13 PM »

Quote from: Johnny Apollo on May 13, 2006, 10:48:16 PM

No...The passage states..

This rules out Jesus since Jesus didn't make mankind.

This also rules out the angels because it says "In our image" and humans arne't made in the image of the angels. No passage states God made the angels in his image either.

Actually It was Jesus that created Mankind. But he did it with the power of his Father, Jehovah. Ill try to get back tomorrow on it........bedtime, bro.

OzmO · « **Reply #18 on:** May 13, 2006, 10:56:00 PM »

And then later on when Adam and Eve did the wild thing (thats what the tree was really about)...

God said,

"Behold the man is become as one of us: to know good and evil" (Gen 3:22)

Johnny Apollo · « **Reply #19 on:** May 13, 2006, 11:07:01 PM »

Quote from: War-Horse on May 13, 2006, 10:53:13 PM

Actually It was Jesus that created Mankind. But he did it with the power of his Father, Jehovah. Ill try to get back tomorrow on it........bedtime, bro.

Oh..Right. Run off to bed once you state something obviously absurd!

NOWHERE in the bible does it state it was "Jesus" who created humans. Nowhere.

Where you get that I have no idea.