The truth about Zyzz death is out!

[Van_Bilderass]

Whenever Zyzz comes up it's always about the ungodly amount of drugs he supposedly did. I guarantee you he wasn't on even a fraction of the amount that your favorite fitness influencer uses nowadays.

[LurkerNoMore]

Agonal Breathing. Once you hear it, you don't forget it.
 
 On the Zyzz thing, there's a recent anti-looksmaxxing documentary called "Poster Boy, Becoming Zyzz" -

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poster_Boy:_Becoming_Zyzz .

In it, the Thais supposedly snitch him out on all the drug use and surgical work he was having done. Also, he wasn't making tons of money despite his fame, His biggest months before he died were in the $7000 - 8000 range.

To be fair the landscape of social influencing was not what it is today.  Would be interesting to see how he did if it were.  Maybe someone can adjust for inflation and the boom aspect of that field exploding.

[Vince G, CSN MFT]

Been dead for over a decade and he was nothing more than a twink with muscles and eyeshadoe

[Humble Narcissist]

Been dead for over a decade and he was nothing more than a twink with muscles and eyeshadoe

Has it been that long? Time flies.

[Brenda Steunbeer]

To be fair the landscape of social influencing was not what it is today.  Would be interesting to see how he did if it were.  Maybe someone can adjust for inflation and the boom aspect of that field exploding.

Whatsapp, tiktok, instagram, linkedin, twitter / X, did not exist at the time or were very small. Same for FB and YT, both have grown immensely and so have the incomes of succesful influencers

[LurkerNoMore]

Whatsapp, tiktok, instagram, linkedin, twitter / X, did not exist at the time or were very small. Same for FB and YT, both have grown immensely and so have the incomes of succesful influencers

Exactly.  He could have been a top earner if he was still around.

[Van_Bilderass]

Exactly.  He could have been a top earner if he was still around.

There would have been a lot more competition however. Might be totally drowned out, but I don't know how to evaluate and compare his looks exactly. What do you think?

But on the drug aspect I can evaluate, he was lean but not GH lean

And as mentioned he didn't really have muscle so he was on tiny tit dosages.

[gib]

Saw in interview with his younger. Bro turned his face into a literal clown.

[LurkerNoMore]

There would have been a lot more competition however. Might be totally drowned out, but I don't know how to evaluate and compare his looks exactly. What do you think?

But on the drug aspect I can evaluate, he was lean but not GH lean

And as mentioned he didn't really have muscle so he was on tiny tit dosages.

Look wise, he appears better than some of these influencers that are out there.  From a realistic goal.  To be fair, I am unfamiliar with the top influencers around for crap like this.  The only two I follow is Ross Dickerson who I know IRL and another one that is more kitchen/recipe based.  The rest like whoever that "19 year old natty" is that looks like a whale on legs wrapped in a bed sheet, or the two munchkin Tren Boys or whatever they are called, or that crap type only show up on my reels occasionally.  I will watch Jay's reels sometimes if sitting around doom scrolling.

I think Zyzz was on huge doses, he just didn't appear to be muscular because he didn't eat enough.  All those party drugs probably killed his appetite.

[Van_Bilderass]

Look wise, he appears better than some of these influencers that are out there.  From a realistic goal.  To be fair, I am unfamiliar with the top influencers around for crap like this.  The only two I follow is Ross Dickerson who I know IRL and another one that is more kitchen/recipe based.  The rest like whoever that "19 year old natty" is that looks like a whale on legs wrapped in a bed sheet, or the two munchkin Tren Boys or whatever they are called, or that crap type only show up on my reels occasionally.  I will watch Jay's reels sometimes if sitting around doom scrolling.

I think Zyzz was on huge doses, he just didn't appear to be muscular because he didn't eat enough.  All those party drugs probably killed his appetite.

Curious about what you would consider huge doses? Nowadays there is a veritable smorgasbord of drugs, absolutely everything and anything you could ever want. Zyzz was in Australia, tough customs, and China wasn't producing quality gear like today, you had that shit IP gear in shampoo bottles and loose pills on tape in a letter. I remember IP's list said, "heat oil on spoon" and "crash tablets in mouth"

I don't follow or look at all the influencers and fitness profiles but they come up on my feeds and I see there are a lot of "aesthetic gods" LOL. Lots of kids decide to try for Instagram fame so you have a larger pool nowadays and more kids with god-tier genetics. One term I picked up is "frame mogging" as in wide shoulders and small waist