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davidpaul

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Its been debated a million times ....................but
« on: May 15, 2006, 04:18:43 PM »
is skip la cour natural?
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LuciusFox

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Re: Its been debated a million times ....................but
« Reply #1 on: May 15, 2006, 04:20:25 PM »
 Absolutely. Skip LaCour understands the principal of believe to achieve!
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davidpaul

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Re: Its been debated a million times ....................but
« Reply #2 on: May 15, 2006, 04:22:54 PM »
Quote from: LuciusFox on May 15, 2006, 04:20:25 PM
Absolutely. Skip LaCour understands the principal of believe to achieve!

Looking at his form and the weights he lifts  I can believe he is natural.
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LuciusFox

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Re: Its been debated a million times ....................but
« Reply #3 on: May 15, 2006, 04:26:21 PM »
Quote from: davidpaul on May 15, 2006, 04:22:54 PM
Looking at his form and the weights he lifts  I can believe he is natural.

 Yeah, he diets so far out from contests ,too :o. His extraordinary conditioning is probably the reason people think he uses.
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Sir William Idol

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Re: Its been debated a million times ....................but
« Reply #4 on: May 15, 2006, 04:26:46 PM »
skip is natural except he takes 40 ius of GH a day and 5 grams of test a week
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Re: Its been debated a million times ....................but
« Reply #5 on: May 15, 2006, 04:50:10 PM »
If they're bigger, harder and more ripped than the top pros of the 1970s, who used lots of anabolic steroids, then it is very unlikely that they're natural.   If they're in the 40s, when natural test production is a fraction of what it was when they were in their 20s, it's even more unlikely.
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Re: Its been debated a million times ....................but
« Reply #6 on: May 15, 2006, 04:52:14 PM »
The bottom line is he maybe he may not be , but the natural movement is such a farce it is hard to beleive any one when they say they are , this has been proving time and time again !!
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Re: Its been debated a million times ....................but
« Reply #7 on: May 15, 2006, 05:11:55 PM »
Quote from: timfogarty on May 15, 2006, 04:50:10 PM
If they're bigger, harder and more ripped than the top pros of the 1970s, who used lots of anabolic steroids, then it is very unlikely that they're natural.   If they're in the 40s, when natural test production is a fraction of what it was when they were in their 20s, it's even more unlikely.

 Nutrition and supplements, as well as training knowledge, have come far enough that it isn't unreasonable for them to be bigger than 1970's guys. After all, Ronnie Coleman turned pro as a natural.
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Re: Its been debated a million times ....................but
« Reply #8 on: May 15, 2006, 05:15:29 PM »
Yes, he is 100% natural.
 No steroids, No gh, No insulin, No thyroids.   In person he is not anywhere near being as big as an IFBB pro.........It is realistic and possible to get this conditioning, when you have so many years practice.
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Re: Its been debated a million times ....................but
« Reply #9 on: May 15, 2006, 06:00:40 PM »
Nohe isnt, BELIEVE ME , I have an inside source who I can not name, but is BIG in the industry, and tells me that this guy is as natural as Barry Bonds..
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Re: Its been debated a million times ....................but
« Reply #10 on: May 15, 2006, 06:01:11 PM »
Oh yeah, Im joking  ;D ;D ;D
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Re: Its been debated a million times ....................but
« Reply #11 on: May 15, 2006, 06:09:12 PM »
Quote from: jaejonna on May 15, 2006, 06:00:40 PM
Nohe isnt, BELIEVE ME , I have an inside source who I can not name, but is BIG in the industry, and tells me that this guy is as natural as Barry Bonds..

Barry Bonds isn't natural!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 :o :o :o :o Get the fuck out of here
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Re: Its been debated a million times ....................but
« Reply #12 on: May 15, 2006, 08:15:07 PM »
Quote from: jaejonna on May 15, 2006, 06:00:40 PM
Nohe isnt, BELIEVE ME , I have an inside source who I can not name, but is BIG in the industry, and tells me that this guy is as natural as Barry Bonds..

No shit! Really! wow.. :o

Its cheesey he says he is..if he indeed is not... :-\
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Re: Its been debated a million times ....................but
« Reply #13 on: May 15, 2006, 08:18:46 PM »
Quote from: LuciusFox on May 15, 2006, 04:20:25 PM
Absolutely. Skip LaCour understands the principal of believe to achieve!

principle
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Re: Its been debated a million times ....................but
« Reply #14 on: May 15, 2006, 09:02:19 PM »


Soy protein is an modified extract of soybeans, that has been chemically altered through use of chemicals, and is considered natural...

Then should Testosterone which is a modified extract of Sarasparilla should be considered natural also?
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Re: Its been debated a million times ....................but
« Reply #15 on: May 15, 2006, 09:04:09 PM »
Quote from: Al-Gebra on May 15, 2006, 08:18:46 PM
principle


 You are correct, Al-Gebra  :-[
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Re: Its been debated a million times ....................but
« Reply #16 on: May 15, 2006, 09:05:44 PM »
Quote from: LuciusFox on May 15, 2006, 05:11:55 PM
Nutrition and supplements, as well as training knowledge, have come far enough that it isn't unreasonable for them to be bigger than 1970's guys.

Creatine?  Designer Whey?  I don't think so.   If you read the old magazines, you'll find that pretty much every nutrition or training technique used today was being used by someone back then.
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Re: Its been debated a million times ....................but
« Reply #17 on: May 15, 2006, 09:08:06 PM »
Quote from: timfogarty on May 15, 2006, 09:05:44 PM
Creatine?  Designer Whey?  I don't think so.   If you read the old magazines, you'll find that pretty much every nutrition or training technique used today was being used by someone back then.


  They were using ineffective things like HIT and full body routines 3 times a week. There are so many more supplements than creatine and whey protein. ::) Muscletech didn't even exist when those Ironage guys were in their primes.
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Re: Its been debated a million times ....................but
« Reply #18 on: May 15, 2006, 09:15:04 PM »
Man just imagine if Arnold was able to use muscletech back then....  ::)

retard.
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Re: Its been debated a million times ....................but
« Reply #19 on: May 15, 2006, 09:15:28 PM »
Quote from: LuciusFox on May 15, 2006, 09:08:06 PM
  They were using ineffective things like HIT and full body routines 3 times a week. There are so many more supplements than creatine and whey protein. ::) Muscletech didn't even exist when those Ironage guys were in their primes.

regarding training:  Everyone was trying everything, so name a technique, and I guarantee that a hand full of top athletes were using it in the 1960s, 1970s and 1980s.

regarding Muscletech:  other than protein, vitamins, EFAs and perhaps caffiene, there isn't a supplement that you can currently buy over the counter that will have any significant effect on your physique.  All those NO supplements, HGH supplements, and all the rest, are snake oil.
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Re: Its been debated a million times ....................but
« Reply #20 on: May 15, 2006, 09:16:39 PM »
Quote from: FOR REAL on May 15, 2006, 09:15:04 PM
Man just imagine if Arnold was able to use muscletech back then....  ::)

retard.


   Arnold would have been in 6-page special advertising sections ;D
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Re: Its been debated a million times ....................but
« Reply #21 on: May 15, 2006, 09:18:03 PM »
Quote from: timfogarty on May 15, 2006, 09:15:28 PM
regarding training:  Everyone was trying everything, so name a technique, and I guarantee that a hand full of top athletes were using it in the 1960s, 1970s and 1980s.

regarding Muscletech:  other than protein, vitamins, EFAs and perhaps caffiene, there isn't a supplement that you can currently buy over the counter that will have any significant effect on your physique.  All those NO supplements, HGH supplements, and all the rest, are snake oil.

 Have you even tried Gakic or Leukic? I've known people who gained 20 pounds in a month from those. Their doctors thought that they were on steroids! :o
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Re: Its been debated a million times ....................but
« Reply #22 on: May 15, 2006, 09:19:44 PM »
Jesus was on both and he still was crucified for your sins...  ;D
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LuciusFox

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Re: Its been debated a million times ....................but
« Reply #23 on: May 15, 2006, 09:21:18 PM »
Quote from: FOR REAL on May 15, 2006, 09:19:44 PM
Jesus was on both and he still was crucified for your sins...  ;D

  Those supplements gave him the strength to carry the cross! :o God bless Muscletech for assisting in the murder of my Lord and Savior!
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Re: Its been debated a million times ....................but
« Reply #24 on: May 15, 2006, 09:54:58 PM »
Quote from: timfogarty on May 15, 2006, 09:15:28 PM
regarding Muscletech:  other than protein, vitamins, EFAs and perhaps caffiene, there isn't a supplement that you can currently buy over the counter that will have any significant effect on your physique.  All those NO supplements, HGH supplements, and all the rest, are snake oil.
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