"There is NO ROOM for another federation in pro Bbing."

[240 is Back]

Bob Chick, Athlete's Rep:

"There is NO ROOM for another federation in pro Bbing."

Bob, are you claiming that a monopoly with questionable judging and major favoritism is what is best for EVERY IFBB athlete?

Even for those guys that ALWAYS place out of the money at IFBB shows and always will?

Wouldn't you advise the athletes to make as much money as possible, wherever they can?  Why limit their opportunities?  If a guy can make $1 more in his career by jumping, isn't it your responsibility as ATHLETE'S rep to advise him to go for it?

Are you representing EVERY athlete, SOME of them, or the SPORT in general?

[davidpaul]

he's the IFFB athletes rep, hope that clears that up for you.

[jaejonna]

Bob speaks well for someone who has a hand shoved up thier back 

[240 is Back]

he's the IFFB athletes rep, hope that clears that up for you.

Fair enough.  
Mustafa is an IFBB athlete.  He earns about $8k a year in show winnings.

If his chances are pretty good to win $10k PER SHOW in the PDI, wouldn't it be a good idea for him to do it?

[phyxsius]

Fair enough. 
Mustafa is an IFBB athlete.  He earns about $8k a year in show winnings.

If his chances are pretty good to win $10k PER SHOW in the PDI, wouldn't it be a good idea for him to do it?

that would stop him from borrowing money from others

[Hedgehog]

Bob Chick, Athlete's Rep:
"There is NO ROOM for another federation in pro Bbing."

Bob, are you claiming that a monopoly with questionable judging and major favoritism is what is best for EVERY IFBB athlete?

Even for those guys that ALWAYS place out of the money at IFBB shows and always will?

Wouldn't you advise the athletes to make as much money as possible, wherever they can?  Why limit their opportunities?  If a guy can make $1 more in his career by jumping, isn't it your responsibility as ATHLETE'S rep to advise him to go for it?

Are you representing EVERY athlete, SOME of them, or the SPORT in general?

Ok, he's the Athlete's Rep. Not exactly a full time paid job right?

Since when is he representing the Athletes every time he makes a comment on something?

YIP
Zack

[irejistirred4deena]

He's 100% right, there isn't any room for another federation.  The PDI will come along, and if it's better for the fans and athletes, the IFBB will go under.  If the PDI is all talk with more of the same crap, it'll be something to post about in 10 years under "Whatever happened to..."

[HRDCOR]

Theres been room for several organisastions in amature level for decades , so why not the pro division

[Chick]

...not enough fan base willing to support them both.

...not enough talent to susstain 2 federations.

...not enough big name sponsors to support 2 federations.

[saucetradomous]

where did this quote come from?

[HRDCOR]

Chick , there are more countrys than just America you know !!!

[240 is Back]

where did this quote come from?

chick on the radio show tonight.

[Rich2]

Bob Chick, Athlete's Rep:
"There is NO ROOM for another federation in pro Bbing."

out of curiosity, what was the context of this statement?

although i'm not defending Chick's comments, he is after all the IFBB athlete's rep. but even IF his statement is fundamentally true, no one can believe that the IFBB is the BEST organization for bodybuilders. not when they abandon their own athletes with health problems and DON'T increase prize money over the course of 10+ years (like the Ironman). the IFBB makes it so hard for new contests to succeed (like the GNC,which was supposedly an awesome event). even Arnold said he would give the winner of the ASC a million dollars if he could (but the IFBB won't let him).

[saucetradomous]

chick on the radio show tonight.

Oh, I usually listen to the archived shows cause I'm usually at the gym around that time, plus I can skip all the boring shit

[Palpatine Q]

...not enough fan base willing to support them both.

...not enough talent to susstain 2 federations.

...not enough big name sponsors to support 2 federations.

I'd have to go with Bob on this one.

Shawn just handed out the 3rd largest purse of the year and I've seen more people at a Tee-Ball game.

And before you get started 240, let me say no amount of marketing savvy will make more people give a shit about BBing than already do. It's a dying sport.

That being said, do you think people are going to turn out in droves to watch even lesser caliber competitors just because the promoter is giving the athletes a fair shake? At the end of the day who gives a shit. When i go to a yankee game I'm not concerned about whether or not Derek Jeter's contract is equitable, I just want him to get a fvcking hit.

[Has Beens]

I'd have to go with Bob on this one.

Shawn just handed out the 3rd largest purse of the year and I've seen more people at a Tee-Ball game.

And before you get started 240, let me say no amount of marketing savvy will make more people give a shit about BBing than already do. It's a dying sport.

That being said, do you think people are going to turn out in droves to watch even lesser caliber competitors just because the promoter is giving the athletes a fair shake? At the end of the day who gives a shit. When i go to a yankee game I'm not concerned about whether or not Derek Jeter's contract is equitable, I just want him to get a fvcking hit.

Very well said.

[Jujoshu]

It's unimaginably difficult to imagine a large contingent supporting another federation considering
the federation with the biggest names (The IFBB) fails to draw a large following.

I've said it before and will say it again...people want action. It's only your rare person
who's going to get excited about watching the culmination of a year's hard work of training
and dieting revealed on stage. 99.9% of the pop. (even women) would much rather watch
two lowly NFL teams battle it out than to sit front and center at the Olympia.

This being said..I agree with Bob..As crappy as the IFBB is I seriously doubt another federation
would garner any greater support or following.

[Lee_a_priest]

...not enough fan base willing to support them both.

...not enough talent to susstain 2 federations.

...not enough big name sponsors to support 2 federations.

NOT ENOUGH TALENT IN BOTH ?.THERE WOULD BE IF THE IFFB DIDN'T SUSPEND IT'S ATHLETES AND THEY COULD GO COMPETE IN ANY SHOW TO MAKE MONEY.
The NOC is 2 weeks before the Olympia say half the Olympia line up decided to compete in it for extra cash 2 weeks before the O.Would the IFBB suspend half the Olympia line up? Would make for a shitty Olympia.

This is where the ahtlete need to take a stand and say hey i am in shape 2 weeks  before the O why not?I can make extra money Stand together guys and all make money.The IFBB will not suspend you all from the O if enough do it.JAY,DEX,VICTOR,GUSTOV,GUNTER, THIS IS ALL FOR YOU If all these guys did the PDI  for extra money do you really think they would get suspended and not be allowed to compete in the Olympia
BOB AND SHAWN THAT MAY MAKE YOU GO   MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

[rocket]

...not enough fan base willing to support them both.

...not enough talent to susstain 2 federations.

...not enough big name sponsors to support 2 federations.

Look guys, I appreciate that you are enthusiastic about the PDI and whatnot but Bob is right, for better or worse, whoever wins, there is no room for 2 major federations.

Mostly because of the money and the support bodybuilding as it is.

If you have ever seen a major sport split into 2 federations (like I have) you would realise that even in a far more lucrative scenario things do not work.  It is a battle for supremacy and pushing the other one out.

[LuciusFox]

Chick , there are more countrys than just America you know !!!

 But America is the only one that matters

[DEFCON]

Fair enough.  
Mustafa is an IFBB athlete.  He earns about $8k a year in show winnings.

If his chances are pretty good to win $10k PER SHOW in the PDI, wouldn't it be a good idea for him to do it?

yeah but that's not gonna happen because Mustafa isn't that great. I have no idea what the hype is about him. He has a few good pictures and that's about it

[dearth]

...not enough fan base willing to support them both.

...not enough talent to susstain 2 federations.

...not enough big name sponsors to support 2 federations.

not enough puppets for 2 federations..

[Jujoshu]

Quite frankly the IFBB rules are ridiculous. Why even
create rules if no one has to abide by them?

Is it that the IFBB creates pseudo-rules to give
the illusion of being an upstanding federation with no intent on enforcing
them if it threatens the Weider's making money?

The only time I've ever heard of a company or federation complaining
about a person working another job is when it 1.) Hindered their ability
to do their job with them efficiently or 2.) They were scared of losing
control over their worker thus missing the opp. to make money from them.

[dorkeroo]

NOT ENOUGH TALENT IN BOTH ?.THERE WOULD BE IF THE IFFB DIDN'T SUSPEND IT'S ATHLETES AND THEY COULD GO COMPETE IN ANY SHOW TO MAKE MONEY.
The NOC is 2 weeks before the Olympia say half the Olympia line up decided to compete in it for extra cash 2 weeks before the O.Would the IFBB suspend half the Olympia line up? Would make for a shitty Olympia.

This is where the ahtlete need to take a stand and say hey i am in shape 2 weeks  before the O why not?I can make extra money Stand together guys and all make money.The IFBB will not suspend you all from the O if enough do it.JAY,DEX,VICTOR,GUSTOV,GUNTER, THIS IS ALL FOR YOU If all these guys did the PDI  for extra money do you really think they would get suspended and not be allowed to compete in the Olympia
BOB AND SHAWN THAT MAY MAKE YOU GO   MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

Do you really think those guys wouldn't be suspended? I don't know even a 100th of what goes on in professional bodybuilding, but some of those guys might forfeit a large sum of money, I mean what is 1st and 2nd place at the O now? How sure are you that they wouldn't be hurt by this? Just asking though, not wanting to come off as anything other than curious because if you are right, I think they should follow your advice.

[LuciusFox]

Quite frankly the IFBB rules are ridiculous. Why even
create rules if no one has to abide by them?

Is it that the IFBB creates pseudo-rules to give
the illusion of being an upstanding federation with no intent on enforcing
them if it threatens the Weider's making money?

The only time I've ever heard of a company or federation complaining
about a person working another job is when it 1.) Hindered their ability
to do their job with them efficiently or 2.) They were scared of losing
control over their worker thus missing the opp. to make money from them.

 They have to have rules, even if they don't follow them.