Author Topic: What do you guys think? I need good feedback! (Read 4970 times)

4thAD · « **on:** May 17, 2006, 05:54:52 PM »

HCG - 5000iu amp & solution (Pregnyl)
3 x 5000 iu (plus solution)

Proviron - BD (British Dragon)
6 x 10 tabs (50mg)

Methanabol (10mg) (British Dragon)
1 x 100 tabs (10mg)

Testabol Depot 200 (British Dragon)
3 x 10 ml (200mg/ml)

Decabol 250 (British Dragon)
2 x 10 ml (250mg/ml)

Nolvadex (Sepapharm)
3 x box (30 x 20mg tabs)

This is pretty cheap, Or do you think I should just keep it simple and run 16 weeks test Cyp with 4 weeks M1T. This is my first cycle with AAS...

DIVISION · « **Reply #1 on:** May 17, 2006, 06:07:28 PM »

Quote from: 4thAD on May 17, 2006, 05:54:52 PM

HCG - 5000iu amp & solution (Pregnyl)
3 x 5000 iu (plus solution)

Proviron - BD (British Dragon)
6 x 10 tabs (50mg)

Methanabol (10mg) (British Dragon)
1 x 100 tabs (10mg)

Testabol Depot 200 (British Dragon)
3 x 10 ml (200mg/ml)

Decabol 250 (British Dragon)
2 x 10 ml (250mg/ml)

Nolvadex (Sepapharm)
3 x box (30 x 20mg tabs)

This is pretty cheap, Or do you think I should just keep it simple and run 16 weeks test Cyp with 4 weeks M1T. This is my first cycle with AAS...

Are you an idiot?

I think I've said like most of the veterans that you need to keep it simple for a newbie cycle.

That means 12 weeks of Test.

Drop the M1T.......who recommended that?

You might want to have HCG and Nolvadex for PCT but that should be the extent of it.

DIV

udeluz · « **Reply #2 on:** May 17, 2006, 06:31:56 PM »

Sorry bud but I have to agree with Div, my past two cycles were "going in blind: I was told to take this and do that. Now after being on this forum for 3 weeks I see the mistakes I made. I am getting ready to buy my gear for my third cycle and I am glued to these boards so that I do this one right.....

Is a few weeks I already learned that you should be doing a cycle like this.

Structure:
1-10 500mg/week testosterone
1-4 35mg/day dbol
12-14 clomid 150mg/day
15-16 clomid 50mg/day
12-16 nolvadex 40mg/day

And I am by no means a pro.........

Go ask alexxx I bet that tool will steer ya in the right direction. hehehehehe

DIVISION · « **Reply #3 on:** May 17, 2006, 07:31:14 PM »

Quote from: udeluz on May 17, 2006, 06:31:56 PM

Sorry bud but I have to agree with Div, my past two cycles were "going in blind: I was told to take this and do that. Now after being on this forum for 3 weeks I see the mistakes I made. I am getting ready to buy my gear for my third cycle and I am glued to these boards so that I do this one right.....

Is a few weeks I already learned that you should be doing a cycle like this.

Structure:
1-10 500mg/week testosterone
1-4 35mg/day dbol
12-14 clomid 150mg/day
15-16 clomid 50mg/day
12-16 nolvadex 40mg/day

And I am by no means a pro.........

Go ask alexxx I bet that tool will steer ya in the right direction. hehehehehe

^Running Clomid and Nolvadex together is pointless, they serve the same purpose for PCT.

I would go with HCG and Nolvadex.......drop the Clomid.

DIV

4thAD · « **Reply #4 on:** May 17, 2006, 09:12:36 PM »

OH by the way I have the HCG and Nolva dex, and I will take your advice Div........ The other was alot cheaper. Is test cyp a good one or what?

DIVISION · « **Reply #5 on:** May 18, 2006, 01:05:34 AM »

Quote from: 4thAD on May 17, 2006, 09:12:36 PM

OH by the way I have the HCG and Nolva dex, and I will take your advice Div........ The other was alot cheaper. Is test cyp a good one or what?

Any testosterone will do......

I prefer Sustanon, but that's just me.

DIV

whitewidow · « **Reply #6 on:** May 18, 2006, 12:46:47 PM »

for a first cycle you are best off using a long acting testosterone- like Test E-

run it 12 weeks- 500 mg a week 2 shots one of mon and one on thursday-250mg a shot

Id say thats all you need for a newbie cycle- maybe throw in a mild oral like TBol or anavar- for the first 4 weeks- run either one at 50mgs a day along with the Test e. if you decide to push it 16 weeks- I think thats fine also- your first cycle is the one you will gain the most off of- so take advantage- if you feel good after 12 weeks and want to keep gaining- switch to a fast acting testosterone like propionate and run it 100mg everyday for 2-4 more weeks. I think if you ran Test cyp for 12 weeks with light dose of M1T for the first 4 weeks that would be fine also- I bet you blow up like crazy- i dont think I would recommend it first cycle- but it will work just have some arimidex or nolva on hand incase you get to much estrogen.

DIVISION · « **Reply #7 on:** May 18, 2006, 03:43:25 PM »

Quote from: whitewidow on May 18, 2006, 12:46:47 PM

I think if you ran Test cyp for 12 weeks with light dose of M1T for the first 4 weeks that would be fine also- I bet you blow up like crazy- i dont think I would recommend it first cycle- but it will work just have some arimidex or nolva on hand incase you get to much estrogen.

I'm not down with the fake supplements like M1T.

D-bol would be a better choice......

Yes, a long acting ester like Enanthate, Cypionate would be fine....

I should have specificed, but I didn't think the kid would be getting Prop.

He would be fine on Sustanon.

DIV

ZEEK · « **Reply #8 on:** May 18, 2006, 05:44:54 PM »

do what ever you want. you wont listen anyways

salu · « **Reply #9 on:** May 19, 2006, 01:19:41 AM »

test e first cycle long ester sus you can use i recommend go with long ester cyp. or test e.

4thAD · « **Reply #10 on:** May 19, 2006, 05:23:27 AM »

Quote from: ZEEK on May 18, 2006, 05:44:54 PM

do what ever you want. you wont listen anyways

What are you talking about! Do you think Im here to just run my own program? Im here to learn thats why I am asking the questions....BTW DIV Im not a kid! Put it this way I was in the Marine Corps during the first Gulf War! Just new to chemicals. Im thinking about going with cyp... Ive been lifting since my early teens just always natural.

bigjohn_bluesfan · « **Reply #11 on:** May 19, 2006, 05:29:49 AM »

Quote from: 4thAD on May 19, 2006, 05:23:27 AM

What are you talking about! Do you think Im here to just run my own program? Im here to learn thats why I am asking the questions....BTW DIV Im not a kid! Put it this way I was in the Marine Corps during the first Gulf War! Just new to chemicals. Im thinking about going with cyp... Ive been lifting since my early teens just always natural.

Dont just take cyp bro... your going to be sticking yourself so you may as well take some gear... take either sustanon or if you are going the cyp rout at least take andropen instead of cyp.

bigjohn_bluesfan · « **Reply #12 on:** May 19, 2006, 05:31:09 AM »

Quote from: 4thAD on May 19, 2006, 05:23:27 AM

What are you talking about! Do you think Im here to just run my own program? Im here to learn thats why I am asking the questions....BTW DIV Im not a kid! Put it this way I was in the Marine Corps during the first Gulf War! Just new to chemicals. Im thinking about going with cyp... Ive been lifting since my early teens just always natural.

and dont let DIV get to you .. he means no harm.... DIV just thinks everyone is a kid and he is the big grown papa moderator.

4thAD · « **Reply #13 on:** May 19, 2006, 05:38:27 AM »

I dont know Its a toss up It will be either cyp, or test e....

Arnold jr · « **Reply #14 on:** May 19, 2006, 06:11:58 AM »

Quote from: 4thAD on May 19, 2006, 05:38:27 AM

I dont know Its a toss up It will be either cyp, or test e....

Cyp and test-e are identical…you won't notice any real difference with one over the other. Some claim that cyp causes you to hold less water, but this is just theory since there is no evidence to really back this claim up.

ZEEK · « **Reply #15 on:** May 19, 2006, 09:15:53 AM »

do some research

test E and test cyp are the same thing,they do the same thing,they are both long acting.

get some test E or the cyp and go bust out some workouts.as far as sust 250

it's good but its not all that,as far as injecting sust every other day,thats a crock of shit. dont waist the gear, you can inject once a week. whoever injects every other day is just waisting there shit cause,I inject once a week and Im still eather have the same or better proggress then some one who does it every other day.

FatGuy · « **Reply #16 on:** May 19, 2006, 09:44:18 AM »

I'm totally new to this AAS so here is my question to DIV...

I think I've said like most of the veterans that you need to keep it simple for a newbie cycle.

That means 12 weeks of Test.

How much muscle mass would you expect with this cycle?

Shadyadam · « **Reply #17 on:** May 19, 2006, 09:46:54 AM »

Quote from: 4thAD on May 17, 2006, 05:54:52 PM

HCG - 5000iu amp & solution (Pregnyl)
3 x 5000 iu (plus solution)

Proviron - BD (British Dragon)
6 x 10 tabs (50mg)

Methanabol (10mg) (British Dragon)
1 x 100 tabs (10mg)

Testabol Depot 200 (British Dragon)
3 x 10 ml (200mg/ml)

Decabol 250 (British Dragon)
2 x 10 ml (250mg/ml)

Nolvadex (Sepapharm)
3 x box (30 x 20mg tabs)

This is pretty cheap, Or do you think I should just keep it simple and run 16 weeks test Cyp with 4 weeks M1T. This is my first cycle with AAS...

What a mess.......i feel bad for your body. $:-\$

4thAD · « **Reply #18 on:** May 19, 2006, 11:24:30 AM »

Quote from: Shadyadam on May 19, 2006, 09:46:54 AM

What a mess.......i feel bad for your body. $:-\$

Shadyadam I'm not taking that. I saw that as a package deal, and was just wondering if it was a good deal. Its set up as a novice cycle. I'm going to take everyones advice and just stick with the test. So don't worry sthweety everything will be OK with my body!

4thAD · « **Reply #19 on:** May 19, 2006, 12:42:51 PM »

Im hearing alot of different opinions between test E and cyp. How about a test 400 for a first cycle - Test 400, 400mg 10cc test Cypionaye 175mg, Test Enanthate 175mg, Test Prop 50mg... Would this be too much for a first cycle???

DIVISION what would you do for a first cycle? I know you said sust, but then some one said to go with a longer lasting test. Im not trying to be a pain just trying to make the best possible decision. Thanx Guys!

4thAD · « **Reply #20 on:** May 19, 2006, 12:56:31 PM »

Decision is made Im going with Test E... I will post my progress. Thanx for all of your help guys!

ZEEK · « **Reply #21 on:** May 19, 2006, 03:00:43 PM »

your mass depends on what you put into it.

dude do your thing and not worry if you get approval from these guys!!!!

who gives a shit,you know how they learned,just like the rest of us they did research and tried shit on there own.

then they come on here and act like they graduated from steroid school.

do your thing and bust your ass to get to were you wanna be.

4thAD · « **Reply #22 on:** May 19, 2006, 04:20:34 PM »

Quote from: ZEEK on May 19, 2006, 03:00:43 PM

your mass depends on what you put into it.

dude do your thing and not worry if you get approval from these guys!!!!

who gives a shit,you know how they learned,just like the rest of us they did research and tried shit on there own.

then they come on here and act like they graduated from steroid school.

do your thing and bust your ass to get to were you wanna be.

Ill take that advice! Thanx bro....

4thAD · « **Reply #23 on:** May 19, 2006, 04:22:37 PM »

What gauge pins should I use for this?

ZEEK · « **Reply #24 on:** May 19, 2006, 04:48:28 PM »

22 guage 1 inch for the delts and thighs. 1 1/2 inch 22 guage for your ass.

lol