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Re: '99 Cormier versus '93 Flex
« Reply #50 on: May 18, 2006, 09:48:27 AM »
1993 Arnold Classic Flex, as great as he was, would have gotten his ass handed to him by a 1993 / 1995 Dorian, a 1998/1999/2003/2004/2005 Ronnie (and also the 2001 Arnold Classic Ronnie)  8). In most people's opinion, Flex in the 98 Arnold was a bigger, rounder (and almost as dry) version of his 1993 Arnold Classic self and at the 1999 English Grand Prix, Flex looked even better. However, in the Grand Prix, he still got beaten easily by Ronnie.

Depends on what standard your using.   If its mass yes Flex would have been beat by Ronnie, but you have to remember the 1998 O was Flex's to lose, if Flex came in shape, Flex would have won. If your talking shape+cuts, 93 Flex would win. Now the 1993 Arnold Flex, is to me, the pinnacle of what a bber should look like.  Take a look at that kneeling twist back shot of Flex, you can't deny that is one pic that is up there with the twisting Arnold double bi shot, or the Sergio victory

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Re: '99 Cormier versus '93 Flex
« Reply #51 on: May 18, 2006, 09:51:07 AM »
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Re: '99 Cormier versus '93 Flex
« Reply #52 on: May 18, 2006, 09:58:31 AM »
Depends on what standard your using.   If its mass yes Flex would have been beat by Ronnie, but you have to remember the 1998 O was Flex's to lose, if Flex came in shape, Flex would have won. If your talking shape+cuts, 93 Flex would win. Now the 1993 Arnold Flex, is to me, the pinnacle of what a bber should look like.  Take a look at that kneeling twist back shot of Flex, you can't deny that is one pic that is up there with the twisting Arnold double bi shot, or the Sergio victory

98 Mr O was Flex's to lose only because 98 Mr O Ronnie's shape had never been seen before. Even if Flex had been as dry and conditioned as he was earlier that year, IMO he would have lost to Ronnie. While Ronnies shape in the years to come has been heavily criticised due to his gut and all, at the 98 MR O, he was untouchable - Even though his delts were a bit flatish and his calves were lacking, his stucture, muscularity, conditioning, dryness, muscle seperation, vascularity and above all, size gave him an incredibly freakish look. The only reason his victory was close was because Flex had all the precontest momentum happening for him, while Ronnie was simply expected to land somewhere between 4 - 6th. Any person who has seen the pics or more so, the video, can easily see how Ronnie just blew everyone else away with his standout bodyparts.

And the kneeling twist shot of Flex, while being one of his signature poses that he pulls off to near perfection, is only one shot. Look at the following shots of Ronnie from the 98 Mr O - Front double bi (Gyno notwithstanding), Side chest, all the back poses and most muscular and you'll see he's in a league of his own. Like someone once said, a good big guy will always take out a good (relatively) little guy.

BTW, I think Alex Federov has surpassed Flex in the kneeling twisted back shot (not all the time, but in that one pic that was posted a few days ago)  8)

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Re: '99 Cormier versus '93 Flex
« Reply #53 on: May 18, 2006, 10:05:58 AM »
Its subjective of course, but a peak Flex beats a peak Cormier.  1993 Flex is the best BBing shape to ever be seen on stage.

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Re: '99 Cormier versus '93 Flex
« Reply #54 on: May 18, 2006, 10:09:05 AM »
Its subjective of course, but a peak Flex beats a peak Cormier.  1993 Flex is the best BBing shape to ever be seen on stage.

I agree Flex in 93 and Samir in 83 bar none !!

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Re: '99 Cormier versus '93 Flex
« Reply #55 on: May 18, 2006, 10:11:28 AM »
I agree Ronnie in 03 and 04 bar none !!

Cant believe you actually admitted that ND  :o

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Re: '99 Cormier versus '93 Flex
« Reply #56 on: May 18, 2006, 10:13:01 AM »
Cant believe you actually admitted that ND  :o

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Re: '99 Cormier versus '93 Flex
« Reply #57 on: May 18, 2006, 10:16:46 AM »
As shootfighter1 says, Flex was the best BB seen onstage in 1993 (and since). You know I've seen a lot of people saying that Heath this year is like Flex in 1993. Please, not even close. Flex in 1993 had people astounded at how damn near perfect he was. NO ONE questioned his win and everyone was suddenly talking about how he could take the Mr. O as a rookie (even Dorian thought if Flex mentally put it all together, Flex could have beaten him). Does anyone here think Heath could challenge Ronnie this year?

In '93 he was incredible.









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Re: '99 Cormier versus '93 Flex
« Reply #58 on: May 18, 2006, 10:22:03 AM »
As shootfighter1 says, Flex was the best BB seen onstage in 1993 (and since). You know I've seen a lot of people saying that Heath this year is like Flex in 1993. Please, not even close. Flex in 1993 had people astounded at how damn near perfect he was. NO ONE questioned his win and everyone was suddenly talking about how he could take the Mr. O as a rookie (even Dorian thought if Flex mentally put it all together, Flex could have beaten him). Does anyone here think Heath could challenge Ronnie this year?

In '93 he was incredible.



Awesome just awesome !! Ronnie may have matched him in dryness and outstanding bodyparts but he can't match that God-given shape !!

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Re: '99 Cormier versus '93 Flex
« Reply #59 on: May 18, 2006, 10:55:40 AM »
Flex had the best genetics of any bodybuilder I've seen.  He was a sure bet to take the O when Dorian retired, but than that big elephant named Coleman just about dropped everyones jaw when He walked out on stage and Flex knew his day had passed.

Chris never took bodybuilding seriously enough to take the Sandow.  He was a great bodybuilder, but just not good enough to take the big one.
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Re: '99 Cormier versus '93 Flex
« Reply #60 on: May 18, 2006, 01:43:57 PM »
As shootfighter1 says, Flex was the best BB seen onstage in 1993 (and since). You know I've seen a lot of people saying that Heath this year is like Flex in 1993. Please, not even close. Flex in 1993 had people astounded at how damn near perfect he was. NO ONE questioned his win and everyone was suddenly talking about how he could take the Mr. O as a rookie (even Dorian thought if Flex mentally put it all together, Flex could have beaten him). Does anyone here think Heath could challenge Ronnie this year?

In '93 he was incredible.











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Re: '99 Cormier versus '93 Flex
« Reply #61 on: May 18, 2006, 01:49:35 PM »
Just amazing

That's fuckin incredible.  Now I remember why I loved this dude

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Re: '99 Cormier versus '93 Flex
« Reply #62 on: May 18, 2006, 03:39:16 PM »

NO NO NO NO NO NO :( I cannot see the pictures because I am banned from ironage.  :'( :'( :'( Somebody upload them via attachment plz.

 Hahahahahaha...same thing happened to me, Alexxx ;D

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Re: '99 Cormier versus '93 Flex
« Reply #63 on: May 18, 2006, 04:34:19 PM »

NO NO NO NO NO NO :( I cannot see the pictures because I am banned from ironage.  :'( :'( :'( Somebody upload them via attachment plz.

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Re: '99 Cormier versus '93 Flex
« Reply #64 on: May 18, 2006, 05:30:37 PM »
Flex Wheeler all the way, baby!  8)

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Re: '99 Cormier versus '93 Flex
« Reply #65 on: May 18, 2006, 05:34:04 PM »
i think flex would own him.... flex look incredible on stage because of the shape of his muscles and his very small waist and joint... cormier is awesome... but not in the same league

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Re: '99 Cormier versus '93 Flex
« Reply #66 on: May 18, 2006, 06:10:20 PM »
i think flex would own him.... flex look incredible on stage because of the shape of his muscles and his very small waist and joint... cormier is awesome... but not in the same league
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Re: '99 Cormier versus '93 Flex
« Reply #67 on: May 18, 2006, 07:02:58 PM »
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Re: '99 Cormier versus '93 Flex
« Reply #68 on: May 18, 2006, 08:42:51 PM »

this is a great shot of Chris. He looks good enough to place second to Ronnie ;D

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Chris beats Flex in legs, back, chest, shoulders, abs............... Clearly the Overall winner ;D

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Re: '99 Cormier versus '93 Flex
« Reply #69 on: May 18, 2006, 09:53:45 PM »
Yeah thats my avatar.................. ......



Chris beats Flex in legs, back, chest, shoulders, abs............... Clearly the Overall winner ;D



   Chris did look perfect at that show. It was almost a curse to be so symmetrical.

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Re: '99 Cormier versus '93 Flex
« Reply #70 on: May 19, 2006, 04:41:06 AM »
98 Mr O was Flex's to lose only because 98 Mr O Ronnie's shape had never been seen before. Even if Flex had been as dry and conditioned as he was earlier that year, IMO he would have lost to Ronnie. While Ronnies shape in the years to come has been heavily criticised due to his gut and all, at the 98 MR O, he was untouchable - Even though his delts were a bit flatish and his calves were lacking, his stucture, muscularity, conditioning, dryness, muscle seperation, vascularity and above all, size gave him an incredibly freakish look. The only reason his victory was close was because Flex had all the precontest momentum happening for him, while Ronnie was simply expected to land somewhere between 4 - 6th. Any person who has seen the pics or more so, the video, can easily see how Ronnie just blew everyone else away with his standout bodyparts.

And the kneeling twist shot of Flex, while being one of his signature poses that he pulls off to near perfection, is only one shot. Look at the following shots of Ronnie from the 98 Mr O - Front double bi (Gyno notwithstanding), Side chest, all the back poses and most muscular and you'll see he's in a league of his own. Like someone once said, a good big guy will always take out a good (relatively) little guy.

BTW, I think Alex Federov has surpassed Flex in the kneeling twisted back shot (not all the time, but in that one pic that was posted a few days ago)  8)

I agree somewhat with most of your post, but as far as ALex Federov, no, he doesn't compare in that back shot. One, ALex has a asymetrical back. Two, Look at Flex's delts, bis, and tris, round and full they are, Alex doesn't have that fullness, roundness.

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Re: '99 Cormier versus '93 Flex
« Reply #71 on: May 19, 2006, 07:57:50 AM »

NO NO NO NO NO NO :( I cannot see the pictures because I am banned from ironage.  :'( :'( :'( Somebody upload them via attachment plz.

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Re: '99 Cormier versus '93 Flex
« Reply #72 on: May 19, 2006, 08:00:13 AM »
BUMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMP!

  I can't see them either :(

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Re: '99 Cormier versus '93 Flex
« Reply #73 on: May 19, 2006, 08:10:04 AM »
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Re: '99 Cormier versus '93 Flex
« Reply #74 on: May 19, 2006, 08:12:06 AM »


  I still don't see the pics, Alexxx >:(