I said it alrdy, if most people on here htink that way, it means most people on here have absolutely no clue about how to build muscles.
It's sometimes hard to realize most members are pencil necks or fatties, but it's the truth.
Its the short period where they not only gain mass but lose fat,im not saying they are mass monsters.
What part of the above do you not understand.Im not saying they look huge, but for example ed norton gained 30 pounds of muscle in 3 months while LOWERING his bf%.It has nothing to do with how good they look, they look small, but its the chnage vs amount of time thats suspect as they get considerably leaner as they put on muscle in short time frames.