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Re: DJ deserved 2nd
« Reply #25 on: May 21, 2006, 08:24:30 AM »
i agree with you here, Dennis was wider, bigger and more complete especially from the back, it should have been him first and Phil second.

Do you consider DJ '1st tier'?

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Re: DJ deserved 2nd
« Reply #26 on: May 21, 2006, 08:26:15 AM »
i can't believe how small Darrem looks there.

YES, he looks really small in that pose compared to dennis and phil

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Re: DJ deserved 2nd
« Reply #27 on: May 21, 2006, 08:26:21 AM »
Do you consider DJ '1st tier'?
a few years ago i would have said yes but lately i'd put him at the very top of the second tier now that Mustafa, Branch and Gustavo have improved so much.
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Re: DJ deserved 2nd
« Reply #28 on: May 21, 2006, 08:26:31 AM »
Heath absolutely owns that most muscular. When you see that, Kevin Levrone comes to mind.

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Re: DJ deserved 2nd
« Reply #29 on: May 21, 2006, 12:14:58 PM »
yes DJ is a 1st tier bodybuilder.

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Re: DJ deserved 2nd
« Reply #30 on: May 21, 2006, 12:30:41 PM »
i think darrem's shape is way overrated.  his muscles don't have much "pop," his triceps have high insertions, his lats have a funky shape, his quads lack sweep and his physique just lacks flow in general.

just my opinion.

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Re: DJ deserved 2nd
« Reply #31 on: May 21, 2006, 12:53:09 PM »
i think darrem's shape is way overrated.  his muscles don't have much "pop," his triceps have high insertions, his lats have a funky shape, his quads lack sweep and his physique just lacks flow in general.

just my opinion.

i agree...he also lacks thickness from the back and has weak hams and calves.

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Re: DJ deserved 2nd
« Reply #32 on: May 21, 2006, 08:05:41 PM »
i think darrem's shape is way overrated.  his muscles don't have much "pop," his triceps have high insertions, his lats have a funky shape, his quads lack sweep and his physique just lacks flow in general.

just my opinion.

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Re: DJ deserved 2nd
« Reply #33 on: May 21, 2006, 09:23:29 PM »
I know can you imagine if only muscle size and weight dertermined who won a show.....



Then victor richards would be Mr. Olympia and Ronnie will still be his bitch
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Re: DJ deserved 2nd
« Reply #34 on: May 21, 2006, 09:25:05 PM »
Then victor richards would be Mr. Olympia and Ronnie will still be his bitch

 Victor Richards would have to compete to win ::)  ::)   ;D

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Re: DJ deserved 2nd
« Reply #35 on: May 21, 2006, 09:26:05 PM »
Victor Richards would have to compete to win ::)  ::)   ;D

If the competition was solely based on that, he would.. LOL
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Re: DJ deserved 2nd
« Reply #36 on: May 21, 2006, 09:28:33 PM »
If the competition was solely based on that, he would.. LOL

  He'd lose to a bloated 350 pound Kovacs ;D

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Re: DJ deserved 2nd
« Reply #37 on: May 21, 2006, 09:30:25 PM »
  He'd lose to a bloated 350 pound Kovacs ;D

That would a "very close battle"
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Re: DJ deserved 2nd
« Reply #38 on: May 21, 2006, 09:43:32 PM »
DJ is freaky huge and yes he might have been higher and is wide from the back - but the guy has incredibly high lat insertions or is lacking real lat development - especially from what I have seen of the NY pro.

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Re: DJ deserved 2nd
« Reply #39 on: May 21, 2006, 10:27:25 PM »
Heath absolutely owns that most muscular. When you see that, Kevin Levrone comes to mind.

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Re: DJ deserved 2nd
« Reply #40 on: May 21, 2006, 10:30:47 PM »
Yeah ok..... ::)



  DJ's waist looks really tight there :o

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Re: DJ deserved 2nd
« Reply #41 on: May 21, 2006, 10:57:43 PM »
Agree, Dennis wasn't on

Your boy rodney must be pissed right now. is he competing at the montreal pro ?
He was disappointed. I didn't see the prejudging. At the night show, I thought he had spilled over a bit, base on how he looked at the night show I thought his placing was about right.

Don't think he's doing the montreal.  I know he wants to qualify for the O though.  Think he's planning on doing the Atlantic city show.

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Re: DJ deserved 2nd
« Reply #42 on: May 21, 2006, 11:15:02 PM »
  DJ's waist looks really tight there :o

from the front yes.. but try looking from the side..
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Re: DJ deserved 2nd
« Reply #43 on: May 21, 2006, 11:16:00 PM »
i agree that dj has to get better control of his gut...but darrem has holes also...what about his lack of thickness from the back?  poor hams?  weak calves?  why doesnt anyone mention that?  djs overwhelming muscularity has to be taken into consideration...as good as dave henry looked when he stands next to dj there is no contest...this is still a muscle contest and shouldnt be about who has the tightest midsection...dj could also have been a bit sharper but darrem was not spot on either...heath deserved to win because he was the most complete bodybuilder on stage but dj should have be 2nd.
You make some good points, I agree with about 1/2 of them.  Darrem definitely has flaws.  From the back he was flat. Henry is much smaller than DJ and couldn't beat him at his best. I think if DJ was peaked he could have won th show by dwafing everyone else.

Seeing those pic's don't even come close to telling the whole story.  seeing them side by side in person was totally different from looking at the comparison shot's here.  The only placing that got booed was henry's. speaking to a lot of people at the show, a majority felt  he should have been at least 3rd.

I'm as much a fan of mass monsters as you are.  You're right, it's not just about a tiny waist but it's also not just about muscles.  it's a total package, you cannot ignore the distension on dj. I think th other guys had less flws on that night than DJ.

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Re: DJ deserved 2nd
« Reply #44 on: May 21, 2006, 11:17:39 PM »
from the front yes.. but try looking from the side..

  Did he at least control it? :-\

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Re: DJ deserved 2nd
« Reply #45 on: May 21, 2006, 11:25:44 PM »
  Did he at least control it? :-\

he tried but end up looking like Ronnie's gut
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Re: DJ deserved 2nd
« Reply #46 on: May 21, 2006, 11:27:03 PM »
he tried but end up looking like Ronnie's gut

  That's really bad :-X

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Re: DJ deserved 2nd
« Reply #47 on: May 21, 2006, 11:32:09 PM »
The real placings that they didn't tell you about... 


1.   D. James

2.   D. Charles

3.   P. Heath

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Re: DJ deserved 2nd
« Reply #48 on: May 21, 2006, 11:34:18 PM »
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Re: DJ deserved 2nd
« Reply #49 on: May 21, 2006, 11:34:54 PM »
The real placings that they didn't tell you about... 


1.   D. James

2.   D. Charles

3.   P. Heath

    
      2.   D. Charles......synthol ::)