Vic terra was unreal the total package ,cleaned up every nabba,aau title given out.had tough time crossing over to npc,respectable ninth place forgot year.bob gruskin who run's the federation has great eye for bber's .deangelis,kucharyk,pete miller,king,list is impressive .everyone of their bber's have great leg's.vince taylor is an exception to the crossover he was aau then npc and turned pro.