also alot of people keep saying bjj stinks and this and that but thats not true,this is mma not wrestling,not bjj,not boxing,not thia but a blend of all of them,do yous really think if mat never crossed trained in bjj,boxing,thia boxing ect that he would be the dominent champ he is today,i highly doubt it.if that was the case then randy would have owned chuck in the last 2 times they fought cause randy is clearly the better wrestler,10 years ago mattered,we all seen coleman dominate by using mostly wrestling,we saw royce win using 90 percent bjj and it was clear back then if you had a great ground n pound or good bjj or any other very good art that used ground techniques and throws such as judo you could go far.times have changed and that just wont cut it anymore,i cant believe some of the threads im reading on the other mma sites talking about how mat hughes proved wrestling is better then bjj,its nonsense,you must know alittle of everything,jeremy horn is a great submission fighter with average wrestling skills,yet you see hughes spending hours on end training with jeremy,its obvious hughes aint working with horn to sharpen his wrestling,hes working on his technique in submissions and submission defense,mat even when he trains wrestling he goes to places that just wrestle,like training with the iowa state wrestling team,thanks for reading