Author Topic: test quest... ! (Read 3623 times)

freeagain · « **on:** May 28, 2006, 03:05:16 PM »

..ion!!

i came off my cycle of test enanthate after 6 weeks ... i stopped gainin after 4 and a half weeks .. i went 16 pounds up with little water retention ....

i did my last shot two weeks ago and am about to start PCT of nolv.

its the same old same old .. i gain like mad the first few weeks then the my body doesnt wanna carry anymore. i couldnt do anymore eatin as i was wakin up inhalin my own vomit!

so ....

in 8 weeks time im gonna do another 6 weeks of test .. but should i replace enanthate with 500mg of test prop per week for explosive gains in my 'window of opurtunity' ??

my body responds oddly to juice... big gains at the beginnin ..... little shut down .. and i keep all the gains post cycle after a short cycle duration.

any opinions ??

bigjohn_bluesfan · « **Reply #1 on:** May 28, 2006, 03:54:53 PM »

Its such a good thing that this is an experiment. It is your body and you are already identifying how it responds to compounds and in what timeframe. If I were you, I would either switch to sustanon altoghether, or do the test-e until the gains start to peter off, and then switch to sustanon for several more weeks.

I would plan on a good long next cycle if I were you, like maybe 20 weeks. Throw in a good 400mg of Deca each weeks, and up the test to 750mg..... add in some d-bol in the front and eat some winny in the back...

Dude, I cant see how you could stop gaining on one like this......... by the way, my gains petered out on test-e after about 7 1/2 weeks,...... I started taking sustanon and I started gaining again and quick too.... hell, Im having trouble knowing I have to come off when I finish up this sustanon...... but my next cycle will be a monster......

ZEEK · « **Reply #2 on:** May 28, 2006, 04:38:35 PM »

thats weird your at 6 weeks and your gains have stoped?

lets see the test dont even kick in until 4 weeks or so.

I am on test E also and im like at week 10 and my gains are still comming,thats all im using is test. As far as your next cycle? maybe you shouldnt do any? i mean if your body is shutting down after 4-6 weeks of gear then your not doing something right or you just have some bunk shit?

Now if you are gonna do another cycle I would stay with the test E or test cyp
and or sust 250. throw some d-bol into it.as far as deca i wouldnt use it.

freeagain · « **Reply #3 on:** May 28, 2006, 06:09:42 PM »

the gear i got is first rate.... my face was like a greasy bag of chips a couple of days after my first jab.

and a 4 lb weight gain per week intitially tells me its 'rather good' gear .

but i explode as soon i introduce these compounds into my body .. then my body wont carry anymore and crys stop .. hence the vomitin from overeatin too.

im the guy who also advocates 2 week oral only cycles ... cuz my physiology dictates i can jump 7 lbs of weight in that two weeks before comin off and keep everythin.

so .. im listenin to what my body is tellin me and ignorin the orthodox .... im gonna blast my system with fast actin compounds next time for 6 weeks ... orals and prop .. train like a madman and eat like orson welles.

this 6 week cycle (plus two week enanthate 'taper' off) means i havnt had any ball shrinkage at all ... and no sides apart from the occasional ripe zit .... so im ready to go again very soon with minimal off time.

hmmm ??

bigjohn_bluesfan · « **Reply #4 on:** May 28, 2006, 06:17:10 PM »

Quote from: freeagain on May 28, 2006, 06:09:42 PM

the gear i got is first rate.... my face was like a greasy bag of chips a couple of days after my first jab.

and a 4 lb weight gain per week intitially tells me its 'rather good' gear .

but i explode as soon i introduce these compounds into my body .. then my body wont carry anymore and crys stop .. hence the vomitin from overeatin too.

im the guy who also advocates 2 week oral only cycles ... cuz my physiology dictates i can jump 7 lbs of weight in that two weeks before comin off and keep everythin.

so .. im listenin to what my body is tellin me and ignorin the orthodox .... im gonna blast my system with fast actin compounds next time for 6 weeks ... orals and prop .. train like a madman and eat like orson welles.

this 6 week cycle (plus two week enanthate 'taper' off) means i havnt had any ball shrinkage at all ... and no sides apart from the occasional ripe zit .... so im ready to go again very soon with minimal off time.

hmmm ??

free free... first of all, you shouldnt even respond to that guy zeek, all his posts are retarded and unintelligible...you know what your doing and you have a good logical approach

secondly, even though I know that you know your gear is good, for clarity purposes, just because your face gets greasy does not mean your gear is good. You can shoot pure sesame oil with no powders added and your face will get greasy because that is the oil coming through your skin, it doesnt mean it is dosed.

ZEEK · « **Reply #5 on:** May 28, 2006, 06:28:41 PM »

yes listen to the newbie John who doesnt know is ass from a hole in the wall.The guy who shoots olive oil and thinks he's getting big?

Now as far as your gear just like john said it doest matter if your face get oily or not? what concerns me here is you say your gear is great but you have had no shrinkage of the balls?

test e again kicks in around week 4? so your saying yours kicks in faster then anyone else's that does gear? but you have had no balls shrinkage?

i really dont know why you would eat till you puke? is beyond me.

I dont know what to tell you.but if your body or your mind is saying stop then I stop all of it!

Luv2Hurt · « **Reply #6 on:** May 28, 2006, 06:44:45 PM »

I also found it strange that you say your gains on test E stop after 4.5 weeks, it is true the E ester takes about 3-4 weeks to break down and release. So on test E you really should not be seeing much till about 3-4 week point. 6 weeks is WAY too short for a long chain ester like test E. By the time it kicks in your coming off.

ZEEK · « **Reply #7 on:** May 28, 2006, 06:46:16 PM »

that was my point also?

Luv2Hurt · « **Reply #8 on:** May 28, 2006, 06:59:18 PM »

Yes I know, by saying "also" I meant "me to". Agree with lots of the points you made there.

bigjohn_bluesfan · « **Reply #9 on:** May 28, 2006, 07:05:18 PM »

Quote from: ZEEK on May 28, 2006, 06:28:41 PM

yes listen to the newbie John who doesnt know is ass from a hole in the wall.The guy who shoots olive oil and thinks he's getting big?

Now as far as your gear just like john said it doest matter if your face get oily or not? what concerns me here is you say your gear is great but you have had no shrinkage of the balls?

test e again kicks in around week 4? so your saying yours kicks in faster then anyone else's that does gear? but you have had no balls shrinkage?

i really dont know why you would eat till you puke? is beyond me.

I dont know what to tell you.but if your body or your mind is saying stop then I stop all of it!

I have to agree with my buddy zeek on the part about eating...... there is no point in eating that much... if you are eating clean and with a good 250 grams of protein and eating all your carbs brown and low glycemic indexes, you are probably overworking your digestive system...... revamp that one bro

bigjohn_bluesfan · « **Reply #10 on:** May 28, 2006, 07:10:29 PM »

Quote from: Luv2Hurt on May 28, 2006, 06:59:18 PM

Yes I know, by saying "also" I meant "me to". Agree with lots of the points you made there.

but remember that free free's body may be different from the norm which is quite possible..... test-e could be kicking in at three weeks with him and peckering out at about 6 or 7......

He is doing just what he should in my opinion- he is aware of what his body is doing and he's gathering info..... I just think test-e is too mild for him.... such is the case with several bros I know.... plus... if he has already ran a few cycles he damn well needs to up the dose to 750mg.... and throw in a good mass builder like deca....

and Zeek: why the hell dont you like Deca and how can somebody not like it.... If you would take some along with that 3000mg of test galenika that youve been running since you were 23, then you might benefit at least by not walking around the gym with a hard on everyday of your life

udeluz · « **Reply #11 on:** May 28, 2006, 07:19:37 PM »

Hey John what amount of test were you running until you switched over to the sust? and then what was the amount of sust? You have a few weeks left huh?

ZEEK · « **Reply #12 on:** May 28, 2006, 07:24:54 PM »

I might try it for you john.

But i love my test

what are you doing for next cycle?

bigjohn_bluesfan · « **Reply #13 on:** May 28, 2006, 07:41:51 PM »

test-enanthate is not good in my body..... I was running 500mg one time and upped it to 750 and then said fuck it and switched to sustanon in which case I experienced dramatic gains.

people always say start with 500mg of test which is a good rule of thumb for a newbie, but in my opinion, this low dose only works "great" for a wormy little 170 pounder. If someone is starting gear at around 200lbs, then in my opinion they should go ahead and take some freaking gear.

freeagain · « **Reply #14 on:** May 28, 2006, 09:41:39 PM »

Quote from: bigjohn_bluesfan on May 28, 2006, 07:41:51 PM

test-enanthate is not good in my body..... I was running 500mg one time and upped it to 750 and then said f**k it and switched to sustanon in which case I experienced dramatic gains.

people always say start with 500mg of test which is a good rule of thumb for a newbie, but in my opinion, this low dose only works "great" for a wormy little 170 pounder. If someone is starting gear at around 200lbs, then in my opinion they should go ahead and take some freaking gear.

sustanon hurts like a c'unt .. but then again im considerin test prop .. which will f'uckin cripple me.

the enanthate i was usin is kosher ... a batch was tested .. the doses were comin up over 300mg per amp!

hence the adolescent eruption of angry zits here n there and my consumption of P2P porn downloads increasin dramatically and i got that much facial hair i look like f'uckin chewbacca.

i just know my body... when i gain a stone or more (14lbs +) thats it ... it goes on real quick .. but i wont go any further... its haemostasis god damnit!

so im beddin down my gains so far for the next couple of months .. then gettin back on for prolly another stone + .. then ill come off again and give my goollies a holiday.

my body doesnt grow constantly and gradually .. it sprints then rests .

bigjohn_bluesfan · « **Reply #15 on:** May 28, 2006, 10:04:18 PM »

Quote from: freeagain on May 28, 2006, 09:41:39 PM

sustanon hurts like a c'unt .. but then again im considerin test prop .. which will f'uckin cripple me.

the enanthate i was usin is kosher ... a batch was tested .. the doses were comin up over 300mg per amp!

hence the adolescent eruption of angry zits here n there and my consumption of P2P porn downloads increasin dramatically and i got that much facial hair i look like f'uckin chewbacca.

i just know my body... when i gain a stone or more (14lbs +) thats it ... it goes on real quick .. but i wont go any further... its haemostasis god damnit!

so im beddin down my gains so far for the next couple of months .. then gettin back on for prolly another stone + .. then ill come off again and give my goollies a holiday.

my body doesnt grow constantly and gradually .. it sprints then rests .

its good that you know that.... you may want to try some different susts and see which ones are least painful.... I had a bit of the same problem with sust and any other product containin prop... but I SWEAR that I started cutting each dose (2 per week) with a 1/4 cc of B12 and that problem is over with.... it is amazing what a difference.... I experience little to no pain with any injection since I began..... I know a good research site where you can get 30cc B12 in your mailbox in three days for 10 bucks..... hit me on pm if you want the address

freeagain · « **Reply #16 on:** May 28, 2006, 10:11:26 PM »

Quote from: bigjohn_bluesfan on May 28, 2006, 10:04:18 PM

its good that you know that.... you may want to try some different susts and see which ones are least painful.... I had a bit of the same problem with sust and any other product containin prop... but I SWEAR that I started cutting each dose (2 per week) with a 1/4 cc of B12 and that problem is over with.... it is amazing what a difference.... I experience little to no pain with any injection since I began..... I know a good research site where you can get 30cc B12 in your mailbox in three days for 10 bucks..... hit me on pm if you want the address

im in england you dozy c'unt !

bigjohn_bluesfan · « **Reply #17 on:** May 28, 2006, 10:49:58 PM »

thats rubbish you fucking pikey

Luv2Hurt · « **Reply #18 on:** May 29, 2006, 06:06:19 AM »

Is it normal for people in the UK to use the word c*nt frequently and loosely?

udeluz · « **Reply #19 on:** May 29, 2006, 07:15:05 AM »

John,

1/4 cc of B12 with the Test E or the Sust.?
Would this also work with my Deca and Prop?

Also hit my hushmail with the addy