Night of Champions info just arrived in the mail

[IceCold]

i dont think its so much the NOC, but the location- new york city.  People from the whole east coast can go and its not the hard to get too - just a few hours drive. 

compare this to denver.  where the fuck is denver and how many bbing fans actualy live there or would go there for a show if they live no where near there?  also, you can go to ny and site see, but what would you do in dever, esp. if you dont ski?  if the PDI show was in denver, even less people would show up than they did for shawn's show. 

[Shawn Ray]

Sign me up for a Ticket to the Big SH  W

[Tre]

the shows were boring and bbing suffered a great deal of less popularity from the 80's and 90's. well, guess who ran the bbing promoted many of the shows - DeMilia.  nothing against wayne, i'm just a bit skeptical about how something can suppossedly be much better with much less talent?

Wayne's an intelligent man.

I would bet that he has learned from past mistakes.

[CAPTAIN MARVEL]

I would like to see the PDI succeed. What absolutely kills me is how everybody bitches about the direction the IFBB is headed and then don't support the PDI. I mean are you mental? Read the press releases! thats what bbing needs to be.

[onlyme]

Also, look for (hopefully) Lee, Vinny or someone (or more) to appear in local news shows and hoepfully David Letterman.  Howard Stern is another very possible avenue for exposure.  PDI will be promoting the pleasing symetrical body that will bring back the days of Arnold, Zane, Reeves and others.  Garanteed the NOC will easily be the most exciting and fun BB show of the year.  

[240 is Back]

LOL... BBing.com just deleted my thread on it over there, which was met with overwhelmingly positive response.

I would have posted it in their PDI section... but it seems to be hidden in the same section as Bob Chick's integrity, which I just can't seem to find.

[240 is Back]

I wonder why BB.com would try to derail PDI?

It would seem logical if there are more shows (ie more promoters vying for sponsors), advertising and sponsorship costs per show would go down.

BB.com isn't tied in with Weider and Manion's profit train, are they?

They're tied in with the radio station.  Bob has gloated here once after deleting PDI content.  The ppl over there are very excited about it.  There were like 5 positive comments.  Not only that, but my accounts keeps getting deleted after posting anything about the PDI

[Tre]

I don't know why you're bothering to care.

This is clearly the dominant message board in the entire industry. 

[240 is Back]

Have you emailed Will and asked him about it directly?

Nope.  Won't do any good. 

[240 is Back]

good point. i just emailed him.

[Stavios]

good point. i just emailed him.

Good ! sometimes, diplomacy is required.

Most of the time your spamming works tought 

[mikediesel]

Sign me up for a Ticket to the Big SH  W

It's going to be bigger than your piece of crap show, Shawn. Don't hate on the PDI just cause your show bombed. Way to go IFBB "legend" keep making yourself look bad.

[onlyme]

It's going to be bigger than your piece of crap show, Shawn. Don't hate on the PDI just cause your show bombed. Way to go IFBB "legend" keep making yourself look bad.

I think you are going to find it hard to believe, but all the shit Sean, and the others have done on the PDI is only making it (the PDI) stronger.  Many people who have bad mouthed the PDI are slowly giving up because they see it IS happening and it IS going to be a big thing.  The NOC is easily going to be the most exciting BB show of the year.  the radio show (PDIradio) is easily going to overtake the current radio show sprouting off so much.  Not only are the PDI pors going to be on it but allot of current and fromer IFBB pros who are involved with the PDI.  The judges alone for the PDI are a who's who of the bodybuilding world.  And Wayne has something very very special planned for the shows and I promise it will turn the way people look at bodybuilding shows for now on.  As I have stated, the IFBB shows are boring.  People want to be entertained and have fun for their money.  The venue for the NOC is absolutely one of the best anywhere.  EVERY seat in the place is like you are right on top of the competitor.  Zoom lenses are not needed.  The sound is the best available.  Check out the concert and performers that place has had in the past.  Anyone who goes to this show is going to love it and walk away with a whole new feeling about bodybuilding.  And this is only the start.

[240 is Back]

Horton and Goodrum have been here for 2 straight weeks dissing the PDI.


Oddly quiet now.

[kmhphoto]

Horton and Goodrum have been here for 2 straight weeks dissing the PDI.


Oddly quiet now.

Nothing odd about it. Been working.
Great to see that you and Keith are continung to promote the PDI though. You guys are simply the best, Wayne must be really proud of you.
Really looking forwrd to the show. Got my tickets yesterday.
PDIradio sounds awesome. When is the first broadcast?
Euro tour is shaping up to be an amazing experience. Luckily, the promoters have issued my press credentials so I'm a happy bunny.
I can hardly contain my excitement.

[onlyme]

Nothing odd about it. Been working.
Great to see that you and Keith are continung to promote the PDI though. You guys are simply the best, Wayne must be really proud of you.
Really looking forwrd to the show. Got my tickets yesterday.
PDIradio sounds awesome. When is the first broadcast?
Euro tour is shaping up to be an amazing experience. Luckily, the promoters have issued my press credentials so I'm a happy bunny.
I can hardly contain my excitement.

You know you are my favoeite Kevin.  I love it when you are sarcastic.  A aquintance of yours is coming to visit me and my home David Paul.  Should be here June 12.  Shoudl be fun

[kmhphoto]

You know you are my favoeite Kevin.  I love it when you are sarcastic.  A aquintance of yours is coming to visit me and my home David Paul.  Should be here June 12.  Shoudl be fun

No sarcasm involved.
I spoke with the UK sponsor just before I left on this trip. We are meeting next week with one of the major sponsors to discuss a marketing strategy for the tour.

I am aware of the name David Paul due to his excellent work - I assume you mean the photographer? - but I don't think we've ever met.

[240 is Back]

HOrton, didn't you say you'd NEVER work with the PDI?

[kmhphoto]

HOrton, didn't you say you'd NEVER work with the PDI?

I said I wouldn't photograph a PDI event.

[240 is Back]

I said I wouldn't photograph a PDI event.

But you'll help promote an event?

[kmhphoto]

But you'll help promote an event?

I'll help a sponsor spend money.

[240 is Back]

I spoke with the UK sponsor just before I left on this trip. We are meeting next week with one of the major sponsors to discuss a marketing strategy for the tour.

Horton, last week we had huge debates here.  You said the PDI was bad for the athletes because it'd kill attendance at BOTH shows.

Now that the PDI is holding a show in your country, and the IFBB isn't, you're all over it for the paycheck.

Why bash the PDI all along if you're now working to make their events a success?  Makes no sense...

[240 is Back]

I'll help a sponsor spend money.

This makes zero sense, Kevin. 

You acted loyal to the IFBB.  If you were, you wouldn't be touching any PDI event with a ten-foot pole.  Not selectively following your own rules.

I guess this is how it begins... it's good to diss the PDI while Bob and Shawn are here to see it.  But now that you can make a buck off it, you will help the cause you bashed.  Anohter month, you'll be telling people you've been rooting for the PDI all along.

[kmhphoto]

Horton, last week we had huge debates here.  You said the PDI was bad for the athletes because it'd kill attendance at BOTH shows.

Now that the PDI is holding a show in your country, and the IFBB isn't, you're all over it for the paycheck.

Why bash the PDI all along if you're now working to make their events a success?  Makes no sense...

As always you misquote me. But that's not a surpsrise anymore.
I didn't say anything about it killing attendance.
My opinions of the PDI and it's viability remain unchanged.

[240 is Back]

In the end, Kevin, you lose with both sides. 

The IFBB now sees you were never loyal, and will remember you whored where the $ was.

The PDI will see you dissed them, then climbed on board when you saw money.

The fans and readers here will know that Kevin Horton will flipflop for whichever side has a check that week, just like many of use predicted.

I actually respected you Kev, as I saw that even though I felt your ideals were flawed, your dedication was real.  now you're supporting the PDI.  Buying tickets, hanging out with sponsors, and yes, you will be shooting the NOC.   

Good to see you have a price, Kev.